Rainy Day Math: Actual # of Teams at Finals

**Jim_A** · 08-21-2000, 08:50 PM

As i concluded wasting away a perfectly beautiful day here in NY, I came across the updated TORHS site.

It was a bit suprising when they claimed to have "nearly 200 teams," on the homepage. Kind of shocked me truthfully. So I did what any anal retentive guy would do, I counted, even double checked to be certain. Actual # of teams at their Finals: 143. Now my math skills ended at Calc and it was never my strong suit, however I can add pretty well. 143 is a LONG way off of 200. If I told my girlfriend who's weight shall remain private for my own safety (its close to TORHS though)that she weighed nearly 200 lbs..I'd be typing from a traction bed in the hospital..143/200=71.5%Example: If I owed you $143, I may give you $150 when it comes time to settle..but I can assure you it wouldn't be $200 and we'll call it even. Its not hard to figure out what sounds better to the sponsors, 200, or 143..tell someone 200 and they put it up there with NARCh, 143..well about half the teams would be the train of thought..

The rest of my wasted time
USA Inline: 64, represents youth divisions only
AIHRS: 102
NARCh: 274

I'm not out to belittle anyone, however there's just a big difference between saying you have about 200 teams..and 143..and we all expect a bit of a stretch in #'s..I'd have no beef with NARCh saying 300 or TORHS 150..

Anyway most of you know how I feel when people post stuff like this without any contact info or a phony name..mine's right up top...

later
J.A

**Dan** · 08-21-2000, 10:37 PM

Thats an interesting point you made in regards to the sponsors Jim. NARCh has a whopping 17 sponsors listed on their website, AIRHS has 5 sponsors listed and TORHS has, you guessed it, Zero. Puts that 200 vs 143 into perspective doesn't it...

Edited by Dan on 8/21/00 11:01 PM.

**Bill_Marks** · 08-22-2000, 06:01 PM

Actually Dan, no, it doesn't put the 200 vs. 143 into perspective. Perhaps TORHS is trying to attract sponsors. Or, if they aren't doing that, who else could they be trying to fool, the customer?

If that is the case, then they are more wrong doing that than doing anything else. In most cases, a roller hockey coach/parent is going to be mush less "in the loop" on issues such as this. While a company that is about to throw down a pile of cash is definitely going to check out every claim that a tournament makes, a parent/coach may not have the resources to do this.

So, ok, let's assume this has nothing to do with sponsors.

Then TORHS should really be ashamed of themselves for trying to "pull a fast one" on the general public.

That's my 2 cents as a proud roller hockey parent.

**Dan** · 08-22-2000, 06:55 PM

Bill,
I guess my message didn't express my total feelings clearly enough. TORHS knows exactly how many teams went to their Nationals and you are exactly right when stating they should be ashamed of themselves, but apparently couldn't care less as their website's opening page is still making the false claim. If TORHS idea of "nearly" 200 is 143 then I would suggest sending in a registration fee of "nearly" $475 or about $340.
I agree that sponsors are going to look at the entire package and that was the point I was trying, however poorly, to make. TORHS is obviously fooling no sponsors. The hockey public's response has yet to be seen...