Rankings

[Bthumme]

Stumbled across these.

http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=6&v=4001 (d1)
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=6&v=4002 (d2)
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=6&v=4003 (d3)
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=6&v=4004 (JCC)

B isn't updated. They're solely based on performance.

[Sbu31]

wish that didn't include preseason

[Mustangs]

This is interesting, but I don't think it's too accurate. While I do believe the WCRHL is very strong, I don't think we should 5 teams in the top 10.

[hockeykid12]

this is like 90% ok, colorado state is way to high for their region.

[MasonHockey]

Cool thanks! It definetely has issues.. It has George Mason (D1) losing to Georgia College (D2) which is interesting considering we never played one another...

[hockeyguy18]

I appreciate the rankings and i think they are interesting but I take issue with the 5 wcrhl teams in the top 10, 4 of which in the top 5? sorry that to me is way wrong. LBS at #1 wen their barley over 500, Arizona State below 500, Florid Gold Coast, Metro State Denver etc etc...Bring all those guys down below the top 10. Bring West Chester, Michigan State, Stony Brook, Bethal and Neumann each up a couple spots and maybe we got a little bit more accurate ranking. I dont like how the WCRHL gets such blind respect, they are not the only conference out there.

[PMoyer3]

I appreciate the rankings and i think they are interesting but I take issue with the 5 wcrhl teams in the top 10, 4 of which in the top 5? sorry that to me is way wrong. LBS at #1 wen their barley over 500, Arizona State below 500, Florid Gold Coast, Metro State Denver etc etc...Bring all those guys down below the top 10. Bring West Chester, Michigan State, Stony Brook, Bethal and Neumann each up a couple spots and maybe we got a little bit more accurate ranking. I dont like how the WCRHL gets such blind respect, they are not the only conference out there.

The WCRHL getting ANY respect is a relatively new phenomenon. If it wasn't for their outstanding performance at nationals last year it would be the same old "ECRHL this" and "MCRHL that". Each division rises and falls year to year though. I do think that the WCRHL has the most talent and parity ever, compared to previous years. It is truly a division where regionals could be won by any of the top 5. It is very believable that they would all be in the top 10 nationally. However, my to 10 would look more like this:
1. Lindenwood (until they are beaten they are #1)
2. Michigan State (Closest game to Lindenwood)
3. Cal Poly SLO (I'm a little biased but they looked very strong in Santa Barbara last tournament)
4. UNLV
5. UCSB
6. West Chester
7. Long Beach
8. Stony Brook
9. Ohio State (Beat Michigan State)
10. At this point it's a toss up between ASU, Neuman, and Bethel.

This isn't based any math. Just my opinion of where the teams currently stand. Rankings in the NCRHA are always up to heavy interpretation as there is not very much inter-regional play but they are always fun!

[hockeykid12]

Neumann where SBU is, WCU is top 3 no question.

[GMU18]

Personally I feel the ECRHA is overrated. There teams pretty much all finished at the bottom of there respected pools at nationals last year. http://ncrha.org/schedule.php?&event...291&area=pools. Hopefully less teams from the ECRHA will attend this year.

[hockeykid12]

East gets atleast 5 bids this year... Lucky for us wcu and Neumann are going to chantily and can show george mason where they stand in the nation, itll be evident it isn't close to where the east is

[GSJaguars11]

Personally I feel the ECRHA is overrated. There teams pretty much all finished at the bottom of there respected pools at nationals last year. http://ncrha.org/schedule.php?&event...291&area=pools. Hopefully less teams from the ECRHA will attend this year.

we didnt do well in pool play but we finished in the final 4, pool play at nationals isnt really that important when it comes to seeding

[hockeyguy18]

Personally I feel the ECRHA is overrated. There teams pretty much all finished at the bottom of there respected pools at nationals last year. http://ncrha.org/schedule.php?&event...291&area=pools. Hopefully less teams from the ECRHA will attend this year.

Is george mason university really talking smack? im sorry to say but u guys didnt even make nationals last yr and this yr ur 2nd to last in a weak conference so it doesnt look like ur making it this yr either....the east gets a lot of teams bc its the largest most competitive conference in the NCRHA hands down. All the east teams will prove that this weekend at the inter-regionals w/ Neumann, West Chester and Stony Brook all playing teams outside there region.

[GMU18]

I wasn't talking smack, I would just adding my input that the ECRHA in my opinion got to many bids. I think that West Chester, Neumann and maybe two other teams are deserving. Not the seven which were selected last year. Not that it matters, George Mason did get a bid last year. But our team was in the red due to poor budgeting so we were unable to attend.

[MasonHockey]

Is george mason university really talking smack? im sorry to say but u guys didnt even make nationals last yr and this yr ur 2nd to last in a weak conference so it doesnt look like ur making it this yr either....the east gets a lot of teams bc its the largest most competitive conference in the NCRHA hands down. All the east teams will prove that this weekend at the inter-regionals w/ Neumann, West Chester and Stony Brook all playing teams outside there region.

hockeyguy18 please get your facts right before just mindlessly typing based on your thoughtless opinions and zero facts.

First, George Mason was selected for Nationals as the SECRHL Regional Finalist last year and chose not to attend due to injuries, and knowing we were mostly sophomores. We lost the SECRHL Finals to UCF in 2 Double Elimination games both times in Overtime http://ncrha.org/article.php?article_id=54730

Second, George Mason tied Rowan and beat ECRHA teams Neumann, Temple, and West Pointand played 2 competitive 1 goal loss games to West Chester & Penn State with the same team as this year. http://secrhl.org/team.php?team_id=54313&area=schedule last year we beat Tampa who made it to the final 8 and tied Rowan who made it to the Final 4, with the same team as this year.

Third, the history of the ECRHA is to always put down the SECRHL (and other leagues) with thoughtless arrogance rather than fact. Last year we had to hear how we (George Mason) weren't deserving of Natty's on this board because of losses to "D2" teams (ECU and Bethel). This year most people have those same Bethel and ECU teams in the top 10- 15 in D1 in the nation this year. You point to one great team in your league like WCU and because they are clearly one of the top teams in the US, assume that everyone in their league is better then everyone in the country. To follow your logic than every team in D1 Great plains must be AMAZING because their top team Lindenwood is so good. While this might be true, it probably isn't the case, yet the ECRHA uses this "relationship logic" as fact year after year. GMU18's point about pools is valid in that they are "OVERRATED", not to say they aren't good teams. Pool play as you know is done by RATINGS... Thus the bad records show they were almost all OVERRATED in comparison to teams ranked above them. Even if you want to discount pool play. ECRHA D1 teams Penn State, Buffalo, Brockport, and Rutgers beat 0 teams outside of the ECRHA at Natty's.

I respect the ECRHA teams as good teams, and believe programs like WCU, Neumann, Rowan and others are some of the best in the country historically. However, I believe using the "relationship logic" your players in your league simply do not respect the level of play in the other leagues as much as you should. I think their are lots of good ECRHA teams and I agree that ECRHA D1 will probably get 5 bids to Nattys this year, but I think you simply don't have a clue as to the talent that resides outside of the ECRHA, specifically in the SECRHL. While ECRHA Top three teams like WCU, Stony Brook, and Neumann probably will do well outside their region, it doesn't mean the 4th and 5th best ECRHA teams are much better than what can be found in other "smaller" leagues. Just because your the largest league with a top team or three doesn't mean your 4th and 5th teams are better than what can be found in the smaller just as competitive leagues. The winning D2 team for Nationals last year was a SECRHL team (Miami) which didn't even get by FGCU, Bethel, and ECU in our "small" competitive SECRHL Regionals last year. They would have been on the outside looking in (maybe deservingly so) because of their poor performance AND the overrating of other teams in other conferences. Don't look now but the ECRHA teams didn't do as well as you probably think they did at D2 either http://ncrha.org/schedule.php?&event...292&area=pools
So feel free to keep your opinion on how great ALL the ECRHA teams are because you guys play (in your words) the "largest most competitive conference in the NCRHA" because of how good a team like WCU is, but THE FACTS simply don't backup your faulty logic.

[hockeykid12]

So GMU has a total of 8 points thus far this year, that would put them behind 12 teams in the ECRHA, granted the ECRHA has more games played thus far so the numbers are a bit off, but lets take who has 8 points in 14 games, do you feel you could beat them? they have beaten Neumann in a huge comeback and lost to WCU 2-1. Or how bout Uconn? they are one of the bottom teams in the East, do you feel you could beat them? I personally don't think you would, the east is just very strong, having a 500 record in the East is equivalent to like a 700 winning % in the south, so to just be 500% down south means the odds are not in your favor against east teams.