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    Nationals bid predictions DI and DII

    Who will get bids??

    Who will get snubbed?

    Who will get an undeserved bid
    Last edited by BEEZERAL; 03-07-2011 at 12:24 PM.

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    we dont even know what teams are all in yet, do we?

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by teedeezee View Post
    we dont even know what teams are all in yet, do we?
    I was talking about who would gets bids

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    DII
    By division:
    WCRHL
    Cal
    USC
    Santa Cruz
    Alternates:
    Sonoma St.
    UC Irvine

    SCHL
    Texas Tech
    Alternate:
    New Orleans


    SECRHL
    Bethel
    ECU
    Gulf Coast
    Alternate:
    U of Florida
    U of Miami


    RMCRHA
    C at C Springs

    MCRHL
    W. Mich
    Ball St.

    GPCIHL
    Illinois
    Missouri S&T
    Maryville U.

    ECRHA
    Binghamton
    Pittsburgh
    Slippery Rock
    Alternates:
    Drexel
    Northeastern


    The real question in my opinion is regional parity, I feel as if beyond the SECRHL, WCRHL and ECRHA there most regions have a clear drop off division between the competitive teams and the rest of the region (at least in DII).

    Also do we know if the teams in SCHL has gotten any better since last year's nationals? It would be a shame to see a team travel from the southwest to have a repeat of what happened to Stephen F. Austin State last year.

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by NUHockey72 View Post
    DII
    By division:
    WCRHL
    Cal
    USC
    Santa Cruz
    Alternates:
    Sonoma St.
    UC Irvine

    SCHL
    Texas Tech
    Alternate:
    New Orleans


    SECRHL
    Bethel
    ECU
    Gulf Coast
    Alternate:
    U of Florida
    U of Miami


    RMCRHA
    C at C Springs

    MCRHL
    W. Mich
    Ball St.

    GPCIHL
    Illinois
    Missouri S&T
    Maryville U.

    ECRHA
    Binghamton
    Pittsburgh
    Slippery Rock
    Alternates:
    Drexel
    Northeastern


    The real question in my opinion is regional parity, I feel as if beyond the SECRHL, WCRHL and ECRHA there most regions have a clear drop off division between the competitive teams and the rest of the region (at least in DII).

    Also do we know if the teams in SCHL has gotten any better since last year's nationals? It would be a shame to see a team travel from the southwest to have a repeat of what happened to Stephen F. Austin State last year.
    I would say that the SECRHL and WCRHL are the best conferences with the ECRHA a little behind at 3rd.

    While the argument can be made that Pitt is a better team than Binghamton, Binghamton won the ECRHA and also got beat handily by the SECRHL's number 2 team ECU 10-2 and 5-1.

    Hard to argue that the ECRHA deserves 3 bids when their 1st or 2nd best team doesnt match up at all with the SECRHL's 2nd best team

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by BEEZERAL View Post
    I would say that the SECRHL and WCRHL are the best conferences with the ECRHA a little behind at 3rd.

    While the argument can be made that Pitt is a better team than Binghamton, Binghamton won the ECRHA and also got beat handily by the SECRHL's number 2 team ECU 10-2 and 5-1.

    Hard to argue that the ECRHA deserves 3 bids when their 1st or 2nd best team doesnt match up at all with the SECRHL's 2nd best team
    This is true which is why those three division are receiving three bids, it really depends upon whether or not the GPICHL recieves 2 or 3 bids this season. If they receive 2 then I think that extra nod goes to the WCRHL in my opinion.
    Ian Prescott, Captain NU #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUHockey72 View Post
    This is true which is why those three division are receiving three bids, it really depends upon whether or not the GPICHL recieves 2 or 3 bids this season. If they receive 2 then I think that extra nod goes to the WCRHL in my opinion.
    obviously I am going to disagree because I want my team to get a bid, but there isnt a DII outside the SECRHL that has played a tougher schedule than, UM, FGCU, and ECU. not only that but the gap between teams 2-4 is almost nothing. In fact the only difference between UM and FGCU is the order of who won the games. FGCU won the game in the Quarterfinals so they get the 3rd bid.

    How many teams can say they played 13 games against teams going to Nationals this year

    D1 tampa X2
    D1 UCF X2
    D1 GMU
    D2 Bethel X2
    D2 FGCU X4
    *B UCF X2

    For those that don't know UCF B is routinely one of the top B teams in the country and is expected to make the B division final 4 again this year. If they played DII they would be right up there with Bethel, ECU, and FGCU

    While it is very unlikely that any conference will get 4 bids, IMO if there is a 4th bid, it should go to the SECRHL

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by BEEZERAL View Post
    obviously I am going to disagree because I want my team to get a bid, but there isnt a DII outside the SECRHL that has played a tougher schedule than, UM, FGCU, and ECU. not only that but the gap between teams 2-4 is almost nothing. In fact the only difference between UM and FGCU is the order of who won the games. FGCU won the game in the Quarterfinals so they get the 3rd bid

    While it is very unlikely that any conference will get 4 bids, IMO if there is a 4th bid, it should go to the SECRHL
    Obviously what needs to be done is to expand DII to 24 teams and reduce DI to 16. Joking.
    Ian Prescott, Captain NU #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUHockey72 View Post
    Obviously what needs to be done is to expand DII to 24 teams and reduce DI to 16. Joking.
    Actually what needs to be done is being done.. move up the good DII teams to DI and slowly keep making DII smaller while expanding DI Nationals.

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    To be completely fair, we went to that interregional with 6 guys. While we weren't missing any top players, we weren't able to roll even 2 lines. I think if we play ECU again, it would be a good game. ECU also got beat bad by Pittsburgh, 9-1, earlier in the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LstLineOfDfense View Post
    To be completely fair, we went to that interregional with 6 guys. While we weren't missing any top players, we weren't able to roll even 2 lines. I think if we play ECU again, it would be a good game. ECU also got beat bad by Pittsburgh, 9-1, earlier in the season.
    While I agree with your point every team can make that argument for any weekend of the season. We played our opening weekend missing 2 top players.

    While the ECRHA still has some good DII teams it is no longer the top DII conference in the NCRHA. That title has been passed on to the SECRHL IMO

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    I didn't get to see enough of SECRHL to pass judgement on the whole conference. But anytime you have Neumann, Brockport, Temple, Rowan, and WCU all move up to D1, of course D2 will get weaker. We'll see at Nationals which conference comes out stronger!
    Binghamton Bearcats #1

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by LstLineOfDfense View Post
    I didn't get to see enough of SECRHL to pass judgement on the whole conference. But anytime you have Neumann, Brockport, Temple, Rowan, and WCU all move up to D1, of course D2 will get weaker. We'll see at Nationals which conference comes out stronger!
    By the way congrats to you guys. My point isnt that you don't deserve to go to Nationals, you guys absolutely do, even if you had lost to Pitt. Im just saying that we could make the argument that the SECRHL deserves a 4th bid over the ECRHA getting a 3rd.

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by BEEZERAL View Post
    By the way congrats to you guys. My point isnt that you don't deserve to go to Nationals, you guys absolutely do, even if you had lost to Pitt. Im just saying that we could make the argument that the SECRHL deserves a 4th bid over the ECRHA getting a 3rd.
    I think it's more along the lines if The SECRHL deserves a 4th bid over the GPICHL and the MCRHL getting 2nd or 3rd bids. I think the ECRHA WCRHL and SECRHL all deserve three bids it's who gets the fourth bid that is up for debate.
    Ian Prescott, Captain NU #72

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    Re: Nationals predictions DI and DII

    Quote Originally Posted by BEEZERAL View Post
    By the way congrats to you guys. My point isnt that you don't deserve to go to Nationals, you guys absolutely do, even if you had lost to Pitt. Im just saying that we could make the argument that the SECRHL deserves a 4th bid over the ECRHA getting a 3rd.
    I appreciate the congratulations, but I must respectfully disagree. I can't see 3 teams not going from ECRHA. Slippery Rock absolutely deserves to go with us and Pitt.
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