Pools

[GripperWheels]

The Pools?

[UmmaDoMe23]

I'll take anything at this point.......

[NCRHA]

The pools for the 2010 Collegiate Roller Hockey Championships are posted at:

http://ncrha.org/article.php?article_id=54257

[NCRHA]

The event schedule is posted as well. This includes the round robin games and brackets.

For Division I, the first round matchups in the single elimination brackets do not display on the brackets page. Use the DI Single Elimination pulldown and then click on schedule to see these first round matchups, that then funnel into the brackets page.

[GoRangrHky]

So since 6 teams decided not to come, the DI pools are set up the way they are. From the looks of things, teams that opted out were Central Michigan, Colorado State, Michigan, Missouri- Columbia, NC State, and UNLV. I get the travel considerations for a lot of these teams, but UNLV I'm disappointed with. It's a drive for them, and the event is in their home region.

I still would have liked the rest to have made it, but it is what it is. The top 4 are still all there, and the good thing is that we get to see them play each other in what should be some great, heavily watched games. I also like that with the teams balanced out like this, no one is going all the way there to get pounced on 3 times. You may not win, but theoretically, you should at least be competitive in all your games. On the flip side, it's a shame that some of these teams may never get a shot against a real top team to see how they'd hold up.

Regardless, I'm really looking forward to what should be a great week of hockey.

[William Bourque]

On the flip side, it's a shame that some of these teams may never get a shot against a real top team to see how they'd hold up.

Wouldn't they get that chance in the single elimination portion of the tournament?

[GoRangrHky]

Possibly, it depends on how they do in their first game out of it. The E1 team plays the D4 team in the first round, what I guess would be considered the 16th best team. You don't make it past that game, you're stuck with a schedule that was teams 16-21.

[hockeykid12]

so in D1 the pools are alrdy determining the seeding possible, how buot d2, it will they be reformed after pool play or is it going to be like A1 plays C4 or like B2 plays A3 and so on

[mustachemarty5]

They don't list the first round of the bracket, but I think this is how it is going to work out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I basically just filled in what each of the TBA games were going to be.

........Bye........A1 (1) ________
D4 (16)________
E1 (17)________


........Bye........B4 (8) ________
........Bye........C1 (9) ________


........Bye........A4 (4) ________
D1 (13)________
E4 (20)________


........Bye........B1 (5) ________
C4 (12)________
E5 (21)________


........Bye........A2 (2) ________
D3 (15)________
E2 (18)________


........Bye........B3 (7) ________
........Bye........C2 (10)________


........Bye........A3 (3) ________
D2 (14)________
E3 (19)________


........Bye........B2 (6) ________
........Bye........C3 (11)________

[mixingitup15]

Haha...6 teams no show...that's hilarious...everyone is quick to call out all the dII teams not moving up for money or whatever reasons but 6 teams decide not to go to nattys. Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...

[UmmaDoMe23]

Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...

The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

[mustachemarty5]

Haha...6 teams no show...that's hilarious...everyone is quick to call out all the dII teams not moving up for money or whatever reasons but 6 teams decide not to go to nattys. Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...

I agree, it's ridiculous that 6 teams are no shows. We play all year to hopefully get a shot at nationals. For 6 DI programs to just not come is unacceptable if we want this sport to grow. On the flip side, I believe every DII that got a bid is attending (or at least almost all of them, I'm not completely sure). I think this just goes to show that these top DII teams have their programs organized and well funded and that they are ready to make the jump.

DI needs these teams to be successful. Just look at all the sub-.500 teams in DI nationals. There are so many talented DII teams and I think that they would agree with me when I say they could beat a lot of DI teams. DI should try to involve every team and DII should just be a league for teams that are incapable of winning at the DI level or that truly can't raise funds to do some of the things DI do. Does that mean that your going to have losing seasons? Probably, but that's part of sports. The key is to work each year to finally bring your program to a level where it can play with and beat the top competition instead of beating up on inferior opponents.

I think it is in the best interest of the sport to have more teams make the jump to DI in order to increase the competition and to make sure all the best teams are going to nationals. I know the DII tournament is going to be very competitive, but I feel that if those 16 teams played DI this year instead, at least half of them would still be at nationals. And who knows, if we can get all the top competition in DI and leave DII for struggling teams, maybe more bids will open up. Even if they don't though, at least we'll get the top teams there.



And to comment on this years tournament, I was skeptical of the pool play at first, but now I think that this is actually a great idea. We have a basic idea of who the best teams are (that's why we played a regular season for 6 months). Instead of having top teams beat up on weak teams, why not see all the top competition play each other (it really doesn't count anyways since everyone makes the elimination bracket). I think it will be really exciting to see Lindenwood, UMSL, Michigan St, and Buffalo all play each other. This will be a great experience for everyone at the tournament. Going down the line, I think every game in every pool will be close because similar competition is grouped together. This will make the tournament more competitive and exciting. Plus, if one of the top 4 teams were to lose all 3 games (which has to happen barring a tie), they aren't punished because they still get the 4th overall seed. Overall, I really like the system used this year and think that they should keep this system moving forward because (a) it makes the every game closer and more exciting and (b) it gives meaning to the regular season. Good job to the NCRHA board!

[kevinsmithAZ]

The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

Totally agree man. However, the competition that 0-3 team faced was basically the 3 top teams in the country. At the same time I still don't like it.

[mustachemarty5]

The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

And the idea behind a team going 0-3 and getting the #4 seed is that they are playing the top teams in the tournament in pool play and they proved the last 6 months they are a top 4 team. They earned that seed through regular season play. A team that goes 3-0 and gets a "brutal match-up" gets that because of their regular season and the fact that they are playing weaker teams in pool play. To me it makes perfect sense. Pool play is simply just for seeding and to get everyone their moneys worth. No one wants to travel across the country for one game in an elimination bracket. The seeds (as far as 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-21) are essentially determined by each team's regular season results.

[kevinsmithAZ]

And the idea behind a team going 0-3 and getting the #4 seed is that they are playing the top teams in the tournament in pool play and they proved the last 6 months they are a top 4 team. They earned that seed through regular season play. A team that goes 3-0 and gets a "brutal match-up" gets that because of their regular season and the fact that they are playing weaker teams in pool play. To me it makes perfect sense. Pool play is simply just for seeding and to get everyone their moneys worth. No one wants to travel across the country for one game in an elimination bracket. The seeds (as far as 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-21) are essentially determined by each team's regular season results.

wow nailed it. I'm a big college basketball fan and didn't even see it.. nice.