Rules Question

[fsunoleshockey]

I have a question regarding fighting/ throwing punches. It was my understanding that after the first punch is thrown, the offending player is automatically ejected from that game and the next game. There were several instances where players from opposing teams threw multiple punches at our players. Our players showed self control and didn't fight back. The offending players received minor rough penalties. Our players were guilty of roughing, and talking smack, but they didn't throw any punches.

[PGHhockey]

What league? Each league looks at it differently.

But, in general, punch = fight = game misconduct/suspension.

But, then again, was it a punch? Was it a push to the chest that accidentally got up high? Was it a 'face-wash'?

There's a lot of gray area...

[fsunoleshockey]

secrhl, they were definite punches to the head/face.

[FAUplayer]

We had a lot of garbage going on in our game, but I do not recall any player on either side throwing a punch. Are you referring to your USF game (I remember some trash going on after the game; quite comical even)?

[BEEZERAL]

yo do realize that these same refs decided that setting a Pick was allowed as long as the player was not moving ALA basketball. They also decided that there is no such thing as a crease in roller hockey and that a defending player (not the goalie) can deliberately cover the puck in the crease without penalty. it is also considered unsportsmanlike to yell to the ref that somone was just hooked and not use one profanity or agressive word.

[William Bourque]

it is also considered unsportsmanlike to yell to the ref that somone was just hooked and not use one profanity or agressive word.

"Any player who challenges or disputes the ruling of an official shall be assessed a minor penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct"

Directly from the rule book. So if your yelling to the ref to make a call, he is within the rights of the rulebook to hit you with an unsportsmanlike.

[BEEZERAL]

Even when it is the teams captain who has the right to question an official?

[William Bourque]

"A complaint about a penalty is not an Interpretation of the Rules and a minor penalty shall be assessed to any Captain or other player making such a complaint"

[BEEZERAL]

well then congrats on being the league boy scout, because if every rule was actually enforced like that, then this league would be tottally different.

[William Bourque]

Boy Scout...nice

Actually, the only reason I even could quote the rule book on that is because I reread the entire thing after having a hard time dealing with the refs two weekends ago in Mount Pleasant.

[fsunoleshockey]

Before this board gets hijacked, I've found that the refs in the secrhl have been bad all season.

[hockey1]

Before this board gets hijacked, I've found that the refs in the secrhl have been bad all season.

My team just traveled down there to play, the reffing was the worst I have ever seen.

[CSteamer]

I think the refs in the northern part of the SECRHL have always done a good job. They let a lot of stuff go and let you play hockey. Its the refs in florida that call every single little push or bump then people get pissed off and things get out of hand.

[fsunoleshockey]

it's not that they call everything, it's that they mix up calls, forget rules, misinterpret rules, or just make stuff up as they go.

[PGHhockey]

Boy Scout...nice

Actually, the only reason I even could quote the rule book on that is because I reread the entire thing after having a hard time dealing with the refs two weekends ago in Mount Pleasant.

We did have some great officiating this past weekend in Mt Pleasant at the Madden tournament - Jake Cole and Dave Thomas called the game the way a Men's tournament should be called. They let us play, but they set a clear standard, and they didn't take any backtalk from players.

But, we also had some very, very poor officiating as well. Which is unfortunate, but like I told my team, you just have to do 2 things in that type of game:

1) Clean up your game and use your skating
2) Turn the other cheek when you take a shot and it's a no-call

I know it's hard to do, but that's the only way a team can make it through a poorly officiated game.

FSU, I feel your pain. We've all been there. There just aren't enough good refs to go around. There's a LOT of good hockey being played out there. On ice, on blades, and even in shoes.

There are only so many people with the right mindset and personality to even want to ref. There are even less that want to do it well. And then there are even less that can/will travel. It's a tough job, and we need more tough people to do it.