Question...

[SBU39]

Is 'the michigan' legal in the ncrha?

i ran through the rules real quick and counldnt find anything addressing the issue.

[InlineMBA]

I saw a Stony Brook player try to pull a "Michigan" off in the second period of yesterday's Rutgers game. He didn't quite pull it off though.

Nothing about it is illegal, so I don't know how, or why, you would make a rule making it illegal.

Just remember - there's a certain risk that goes with that move. It's called payback.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[smiller]

its been done in games before.

[William Bourque]

It's legal. I think there is a section in the rule book and "The Michigan" is defined. The Stony Brook player did pull the move off on Towson in the game but he came from over the top of the net and it was a high stick. Hence the face-off brought out of the zone on the play.

[dan sangiorgio]

your probably thinking of narch i believe they have an unsportmanlike conduct penalty for it if you hit the goalie with your stick while trying to do it

[William Bourque]

your probably thinking of narch i believe they have an unsportmanlike conduct penalty for it if you hit the goalie with your stick while trying to do it

Chris Lerch scored a Michigan at NARCH on Saturday night in a 1-0 game with 3 minutes left to give his team a 2-0 lead, a game they would go on to win 3-1. No unsportsmanlike was given, not sure if he touched the goalie...

[RustyPipes27]

Actually, Bourque was incorrect about the Towson/Stonybrook game today.

One of Stonybrook's players, the same guy who tried the Michigan against Rutgers I believe, tried the move on me, but wasn't able to pull it off. It hit me in the arm and then rolled into the corner. The play was blown dead because he hit he the post so hard with his stick that he knocked the net off.

I'm pretty sure that incident was what sparked the initial question in this post.

[Leaferguy]

Chris Lerch scored a Michigan at NARCH on Saturday night in a 1-0 game with 3 minutes left to give his team a 2-0 lead, a game they would go on to win 3-1. No unsportsmanlike was given, not sure if he touched the goalie...

Yeah he tried it in our game last weekend, too. The outside of the net stopped him. No mention was made of it by the refs.

[SBU39]

Actually, Bourque was incorrect about the Towson/Stonybrook game today.

I'm pretty sure that incident was what sparked the initial question in this post.

yeppp pretty much, but it made me wonder and i went to look it up in the rulebook and there was no mention of it....so i figured who better to ask than everone

[William Bourque]

Actually, Bourque was incorrect about the Towson/Stonybrook game today.

One of Stonybrook's players, the same guy who tried the Michigan against Rutgers I believe, tried the move on me, but wasn't able to pull it off. It hit me in the arm and then rolled into the corner. The play was blown dead because he hit he the post so hard with his stick that he knocked the net off.

Well okay then, that is what we deduced happened when we saw the play happen. You started to period at the far end of the rink. I guess that makes sense as well.

[boring]

if anyone did it i would probably chop there arm off and take the 2 minute penalty

[DannyG]

...i would probably chop their arm off and take the 2 minute penalty

Except for the inherent showboating usually acompanying the feat...picking the puck up and backhanding a wraparound shot 2-4 feet off the gorund is tactically a pretty good play...especially if you possess the technical ability to pull it off correctly.

I must confess that over the past ten years I have always had one of two differing reactions to somebody trying this vs my team:

1. as a goalkeeper, I was ashamed to have not protected the post correctly, and I felt as though I let my team down, giving up an easy goal.

2. As a defender, I felt that I had totally failed to protect my goalkeeper, and let my team down, if I weren't immediately goalside when the guy came around the side of the net. I never should have allowed him to even get the puck to the net.

I would contend that with either of these two reactions, I choose to take responsibility for my play, and I refuse to let the play of my opponent dictate my mindset...

I franklly am not real sure where the mentallity of retaliation should come in here...

[MotherPucker21]

Except for the inherent showboating usually acompanying the feat...picking the puck up and backhanding a wraparound shot 2-4 feet off the gorund is tactically a pretty good play...especially if you possess the technical ability to pull it off correctly.

I must confess that over the past ten years I have always had one of two differing reactions to somebody trying this vs my team:

1. as a goalkeeper, I was ashamed to have not protected the post correctly, and I felt as though I let my team down, giving up an easy goal.

2. As a defender, I felt that I had totally failed to protect my goalkeeper, and let my team down, if I weren't immediately goalside when the guy came around the side of the net. I never should have allowed him to even get the puck to the net.

I would contend that with either of these two reactions, I choose to take responsibility for my play, and I refuse to let the play of my opponent dictate my mindset...

I franklly am not real sure where the mentallity of retaliation should come in here...

you know what.......that just might be the most logical response to this issue that I have ever seen. Most people talk about the consiquences. If you pull off a flashy move, be prepared to get hit shortly thereafter. But why? your post makes a great point. Why are you pissed at them for pulling it off and not pissed at your defense for letting him pull it off. I didn't even think of this mindset in the Itan Chavira thread, but it makes perfect sense.

[boring]

no i was saying if he was in the process of doin it, then i would chop his arm off, not after he scored and was skating away. if your gonna try and show off then ill make you pay for it

[InlineMBA]

IMO - Yes, there is a time and place for this move.

However, I'm not prepared to debate Itan's use of the move at TORHS Winter Cup, or why the player from Stony Brook tried the move several times last weekend.

The debate of: strategy vs. showboating, could go on forever.

All I know is you can throw "logical decision" out the window, when it comes to what price one will pay for trying the move. The goalie's or defenseman's perspective of showboating is the unknown factor here. Are you willing to take that chance?

I know one guy, whom I respect very highly, who can pull this move off both back-hand and fore-hand at will, but he chooses to keep it in his bag of tricks. I've never seen him do it in a game situation.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8