MLRH Pro 2008??

[rolly]

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what is going on with this MLRH going back to pro for 2008.

I read the article on their website but , other than that the website isn't very good.

Does anyone have any info on what their plans are. where will the team be etc....

Also in the article it says that it will be the only professional roller hockey league? Isn't the PIHA professional as well?

Any explanation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

--

[joisyan]

a little FYI, just read up on some of the previous threads instead of starting another MLRH one haha

[rolly]

Thanks joisyan. I have already read those posts and the answers that I was looking for are not there.

Thats why I asked in my own post because it would like to get some further clarification.

Like who and are the teams in this new league. and what else is the league plnning on doing.

So anyone who knows anything and can share some info , that would be great

Thanks

---

[RichardGraham]

Hi Rolly,

My understanding is the MLRH still intends to come out next spring as announced, but wants to get its ducks in a line before making any more announcements. With all the "pro" leagues that have made a noisy entrance splash and disappeared, it might be worthwhile to chill out for a while and give MLRH a chance to do all the necessary groundwork. I have no doubt that when the league is ready to announce anything, you'll hear it here first.

[skooled]

exactly what richard said. They are planning on starting with 8 teams, all in the east, full contact.

their PRO status is because they will be paying a wage to their players, making it a professional league, where PIHA is run professionally, with professionally run teams, that are for now putting any and all money into the development of the teams and the league itself.

[ACCCT2]

Is that a crazily creatively-convoluted and/or manic semi-oxymoronic way of saying that they're basically an amateur recreational league with semi-matching uniforms and no paid players (however skilled and, umm, "professional" they are)...???

I agree with Richard -- and I believe that MLRH is absolutely right to "chill" and "get it right" for the good of the game, as well as for the rather unprofessional image of "professional" inline hockey, as the far-too-numerous "disappearing" acts clearly attest as to how many times the sport's fallen patheticly short of truly "professional"...

MUCH GOOD LUCK to the MLRH re-launch, as the sport REALLY needs things done right (and actually "professional")...

[Superstar9]

you know, I started to reply on this one but, i decided it doesn't need to be argued.

[skooled]

ACCCT2, you used to make some good points. could you start trying again?

(maybe) with a "few" LESS of these... it doesn't make you smarter, or anyone dumber, just a bit more annoyed

[SWAMPDONKEYS29]

Oh well ACCCT2, there goes the only person left on this forum who even remotely supported anything that you have posted on here in recent memory.

I'm interested in knowing why you're screen name is ACCCT2? Is that because the first act got so old so quick that you felt the need to change it? Well guess what....maybe it's time to change this act as well, as it has long since run it's course. Perhaps ACCCT3 can make his first appearance soon on a message board dedicated to dentistry or architecture, more than likely 2 more areas that you know as much about as inline hockey.

I do have to give you credit for one thing. You have successfully joined this board and proceeded to alienate just about everyone on here. Judging by your posts, that had to have been your intention from the beginning. Bravo!!! Mission accomplished!!! You've even stooped to a new low for even a scumbag like yourself to use words like Jihad and Infadel. Two words that strike a nerve in every American that are guaranteed to piss us off and put us on the defensive. Once again....job well done douchebag!

You have repeatedly made failed attempts to discredit what is currently by far the premier inline hockey league in the world, only to make yourself look more and more like the absolute fool that you obviously are. A large number of us have offered you the opportunity to prove your point or even show some sign that you are legitimate and not the fraud that most, if not all of us on here think that you are and all you could come up with was an alphabetic list of furtune 500 companies taken from Forbes magazine that you have supposedly done business with in the advertising world. Nice try!!! I honestly expected a little more out of you. I personally would bet the bank that you are indeed a joke and quite honestly, nothing that you could do or say at this point would change my mind. You are pathetic.

Perhaps you are a person who has been cut from so many teams that you feel the need to attack them or the league that they (we) play in. Perhaps you're a person that's so sour that you could never quite get into the inner circle of our sport, as you accused so many other people of not being "inside" that you feel you have to question their involvement and/or dedication in our sport. You mentioned that "Growl", my personal close friend Anthony Flynn, who has done more for this sport and for the PIHA than you could imagine, was not on the inside. That immediately proves your ignorance. Anthony Flynn has been a huge asset to the league in particular and the sport in general. If you don't feel that his accomplishments over the past 6 years are anything to acknowledge, then stay tuned to see exactly what he will do over the next 6 years and just how much on the inside he truly is.

You've mentioned time and time again that no one in the league knows what they're doing when it comes to marketing, once again proving your ignorance. We have a guy in this league named Dave Garland who could teach you the in's and out's of marketing. Keep a close eye on the Gateway Division of the PIHA now as well as over the next few years and maybe you can pick up some pointers by attempting to duplicate his efforts. It's just a shame that a floater like you could never in a million years duplicate his success. Dave Garland is the professional that you have never been and will never be.

Did they teach you in marketing class to announce a phony tournament for money in Europe and respond to yourself under a fictional screen name to make it look like there is interest? Do you hear that noise? That's me...still laughing at such a pathetic act. You also occasionaly throw in a teaser about an upcoming league that will be the model for professional leagues (not in those words but just what I've taken away from your posts). Good luck with that. Let me know how that works out for you.

So there you have it.....my response to the constant barrage of negativity from the keyboard of ACCCT2. Enjoy your days on the rolled and polished concrete surfaces of the open air rinks that you play in, or in Hong Kong, because I know of 1 retired airplane hanger/ old warehouse with sport court in Holbrook, MA that you are not invited to play in.

Ruppy Hailey

[joisyan]

this kinda supports what i said about not starting another thread about MLRH cause it all goes the same way anymore. I just hope that MLRH puts another team around DC so i can continue to play year round, as the point was made not too long ago. Richard, you might want to throw the lock on this one before it gets out of hand with the ACCCT2 guy just coming in for no reason and starting it up heh

[ACCCT2]

Hmmm -- "starting it up" -- where do you get that from...?!? --

Y'know, it's truly amazing how presumptive and thin-skinned some people are. My post was a humorous 'poke' at a quite confusing and verbally evasive/inventive description (a new "definition"?) of what "professional" was...

And once again, a non-PIHA thread (remember, this was an MLRH thread) about "professional" inline hockey has been nastily steered into a PIHA vs anyone-who-has-a-different-idea-or-vision rant (with extremely nasty and disgustingly offensive personal assaults and invectives, I might add). I myself have never "attacked" or "accused" anyone in these forums about anything -- I've simply, thoughtfully and always politely (though sometimes sarcastically) stated my opinion. If that "alienates" any of you, well, that's your problem, as I don't think an open forum is set up to 'post' only one accepted or considered or proposed viewpoint or opinion. Just so you know and are clear -- dissagreeing with someone and/or something is absolutely NOT "discrediting" that someone and/or something, nor should it be unfairly or unjustly or only construed or considered as "negativity"...

And I'm not running for anything, so I'm really not concerned about "support" (although it's always welcome!) -- give that to Hillary or Barack or Rudy or whomever (hey Richard, let's see where some here could take this germ of an idea, eh!?)...

Well, at least I can feel satisfied that someone finally decided to more accurately describe PIHA as a "premier" inline hockey league (as it is definely not "the" premier inline hockey league "in the world" for any of us who've actually seen the Swiss, Italian, Czech and numerous German leagues play). I swear, a lot of you guys must secretly be ad-guys 'cuz I read so much unfounded hyperbole and unsubstantiated let's-make-it-up-as-we-go "facts" here that I feel I'm back in a good-old ad-biz "creative" session...!?!

I've never tried-out for any PIHA team and never will, as I myself prefer to play a more basic, ambiant and outdoorsy ("ghetto-hockey-ish") version of the game...

I'm personally a quite easy-going, understanding, upbeat, positive, good-humored, "can-do" kind of person -- extremely tolerant and open-minded about 'others' and their right to express their opinions without being personally assaulted or 'shouted-down' with obscenity-laced diatribes. I have absolutely no spiritual illusions or intellectual delusions about my own primacy or fallibility and I've always been open to someone "showing-me" (like they do in Missouri) like a gentleman...

Which delightfully brings us to a more positive subject that was mentioned --

Dave Garland's a great guy (from what I know and can tell), but in regards and respect to relative advertising, sponsorship, marketing and media industry knowledge, experience and expertise, I think that Dave himself, with all due respect to the gentleman and up-&-coming young marketing talent that he clearly is, would probably differ with you on any points concerning what exactly he could "teach" me about "the biz". He's doing quite well with his Gateway Divison, but that's because of his own personal planning, proposals, efforts, exertations and vision, not because of some expert ("professional"?) league-wide plan...

Ultimately, my very sincere wishes for the MLRH re-launch to be successful were and are just that -- very sincere wishes for MLRH to be successful. Period. Personally, I think Matt O'Neill has a very clear picture about how to do it "right" and quite frankly, I applaud and wholeheartedly support his (or anyone's) effort and vision in bringing the game to a truly "professional" level...

As for those who might be wondering about "SWAMPDONKEYS29's" rant about my not being "invited" to "1 retired airplane hanger/old warehouse with sport court" might have come from -- in another unrelated thread, I happened to give my opinion regarding the "favorate" where and on-what I'd prefer playing the game and I happened to mention that I don't really like playing in most of the typical indoor facilities presently out there -- "...especially the indoor hanger-like structures like (unfortunately) what most indoor 'inline' hockey facilities are constructed as (most remind me of abandoned tennis barns put to slighty better use, but no better ambiance)..." -- the implication being (to me at least) that apparently, now even this kind of opinion regarding personal preferences with regards to a "favorate" how and where and on-what someone might like playing the game are no longer accepted or tolerated by some people on this forum...

And "SWAMPDONKEYS29", you should be extremely careful and be warned of what you "accuse" or allege ("...announce a phony tournament for money in Europe and respond to yourself under a fictional screen name to make it look like there is interest..."), as your scurillous and slanderous and libelous suppositions have absolutely no basis in fact and (all) would and should presume that the expected editorial integrity and standards of the Editors of this forum would back this up...

As for your comment regarding supposedly my "...occasionaly throw(ing) in a teaser about an upcoming league that will be the model for professional leagues..." -- I don't know where you ever got this one from, as I've never, ever stated, intimated or implied any such interest (in this or any online forum anyway) about doing so -- but I can tell you that IF I EVER DID start-up a truly (paid-to-play) "professional" inline hockey league, I'd probably never announce it here, as I couldn't realistically trust in anything being "kept in confidence" by those who are entrusted with such important, private and confidential things...

In my own humble opinion, I now vote that we steer this thread back to MLRH issues, ideas and imaginings -- where it should be (y'know, it it's an interesting dynamic: I never see or read MLRH people hijacking a PIHA-themed thread and bashing differing or dissenting opinions with obscenity-laced "MRLH-or-nothing" rants -- curiously revealing about certain people if you really think about it, eh!?)...

[joisyan]

"exactly what richard said. They are planning on starting with 8 teams, all in the east, full contact.

their PRO status is because they will be paying a wage to their players, making it a professional league, where PIHA is run professionally, with professionally run teams, that are for now putting any and all money into the development of the teams and the league itself."

this is what skooled wrote. and is apparently the only thing that PIHA was mentioned in up to that point in the thread, and you took that as premise to say that an "MLRH thread was tampered with by PIHA". skooled just simply made an observation, or input if you will on the subject of MLRH not quite being ready yet, and that PIHA is up and running. nothing big there. not talking trash, or being indicitive (sp?) or anything like that. once again, i say you are taking it way too far off subject, and by doing so you're the one who's causing these threads to become the way they are. so just sit back, relax about the whole issue, make any comments you want, but calm down with the constant redirections. it's really getting rediculous.

[ACCCT2]

What I said was -- "...I agree with Richard -- and I believe that MLRH is absolutely right to 'chill' and 'get it right' for the good of the game, as well as for the rather unprofessional image of 'professional' inline hockey, as the far-too-numerous 'disappearing' acts clearly attest as to how many times the sport's fallen patheticly short of truly 'professional'..." -- I was specifically agreeing with Richard's spot-on accuracy in reminding and 'cautioning' us of all of the "disappearing" acts that have unfortunately laced our game over the years -- remember WIRHL and RHI-2 and XIHL and NIHL (the infamous "bus" league?) -- that someone assumes something else (and you know what they say about someone who "assumes" anything) and then takes umbrage or offense and obscenely lights into me about my opinions is clearly evidence of other people's agenda's, not mine...

[Alvare71]

I believe you guys will be impressed with The NEW MLRH, Everyone has the right for there opinion. All I can say is sit back and enjoy when it finally comes out.

[ACCCT2]

DITTO-that...!!!