Logos and being original

[rhhof]

Not trying to make a case of it, but c'mon guys -- stealing logos the past few years and not creating new identities...what gives, first CO with them now Cali bringing back two from the RHI out there

I'm sure certain people might see this when it its now going nationwide and wondering that there might be some legal action taken by the original owners of some of them. I am about being original and identifying with areas....Im still trying to figure out when their were Bulls in Chicago - Most of the names work, but the logos....Maybe if Bill went back in time he'd have a case, but the RHI ones.....most were copyrighted or trademarked so be careful

Either way, WELCOME BACK to Sacramento!!

[InlineMBA]

I know what Adam is talking about. But, it's been going on for a while.

I remember, way back when, when Bob Goodliffe of the NJ Wolfpac got a letter from the NY Rangers, the parent organization of the Hartford Wolfpack, and was told to stop using the Wolfpack name.

Easiest way? Have the great people at ProJoy design a jersey for you, then incorporate some aspect of their design into your logo.

Lets see some creativity out there. My favorites - Oakville Coyotes ProJoy Jersey, and Team Dirt.

Steve Inge

[Hystyk28]

m still trying to figure out when their were Bulls in Chicago -

For your reading enjoyment...

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohisto...pages/804.html

[Drexel63]

I guess the "Chicago Meatpackers" wasn't as appealing in the marketing realm

[Jon Niola]

I guess the "Chicago Meatpackers" wasn't as appealing in the marketing realm

LOL that is an understatement.

[rhhof]

LOL - I love you Dave!!

[TULaw]

I think the PIHA could alot better when it comes to branding, after all they are trying to build a professional entertainment product and a huge part of that is branding. Even if the league isnt a true professional league yet with players getting paid and all atleast have the teams look the part and give the fans something they will want to wear. The league is missing out on a big opportunity to sell merchandise with these logos and names. There are only a couple of good ones in the league right now The Gladiators and Lunatics. but most of them are ugly and laughable, for example I wouldnt want to be caught dead wearing the Snipers or Pythons logo.

[Dave Garland]

TULaw,

You are entitled to your opinion of course; however, the logos you mentioned also sold a ton of merchandise in the St. Louis area with kids loving it. People all have their own tastes; however, branding means a consistent image that is replayed over and over that becomes associated with a product (in this case the team is the product). People always love and hate logos in all sports, but the key is entrenching it so it becomes as recognizable as say, Pepsi. We are on our way to do just that.

-D

[81design]

Just an FYI, I've seen the Marple Gladiators logo used in Moberly, MO (of all places) for the HS. So I'm assuming even that logo isn't original.

[GoRangrHky]

What the hell is this??



At least that one's blatant




Ok, not AS obvious, but stealing the Milwaukee Admirals logo (and then putting a TM logo on it??) is fairly obvious as well



And while not blatant theft, let's come up with some original ideas, folks.


Um, I'd like to buy a vowel?

I'm sorry, but I still have a tough time taking the league seriously when I see teams out on the rink wearing logos that were OBVIOUSLY stolen from actual professional teams. $250 can get you someone to design a legitimate, unique logo for your team. Seems like it'd be worth the investment, but I guess not.

[BOMBERS11]

I think that if you look a little more into it you will find that there are more teams than you think with original uniform designs like my team the mass bombers, or a team like the philadelphia growl. even the Hartford Fire Ants

[GROWL]

I think the PIHA could alot better when it comes to branding, after all they are trying to build a professional entertainment product and a huge part of that is branding. Even if the league isnt a true professional league yet with players getting paid and all atleast have the teams look the part and give the fans something they will want to wear. The league is missing out on a big opportunity to sell merchandise with these logos and names. There are only a couple of good ones in the league right now The Gladiators and Lunatics. but most of them are ugly and laughable, for example I wouldnt want to be caught dead wearing the Snipers or Pythons logo.

The Lunatics Logo is not original. It is a stock joker with the hat taken off. I would agree that the Glads have one of the more original logos in the league. I can tell you that when we created the Growl logo that we worked with an artist to make sure that, while it does look like some other bulldogs in existance, it is absolutely unique.

[MBurke]

Most design firms will crank a pretty good logo out for you for a couple hundred bucks and you're involved in the whole process.

[TheSnake22]

lol i totally missed that with the "tornados"

the year before last, there was also the "borrorwed" phantoms logo which was replaced by the "borrowed" bandits logo, which has since been slightly modified.

[GoRangrHky]

I think that if you look a little more into it you will find that there are more teams than you think with original uniform designs like my team the mass bombers, or a team like the philadelphia growl. even the Hartford Fire Ants

WHAT?!?!?!?

It's a PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE. Every team should have their own original uniform design!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To say that most do is just... .

Hell, there's house league teams that can come up with their own. I would like to think that a professional team would be able to....

And wile the Mass Bombers logo may be original, it reminds me a whole lot of this team's http://www.essendonfc.com.au/main.asp
Just saying.