I apologize at the start of this to those who are either offended or bored by this discussion...espeically in light of further assertions made by the Amateur Athletic Union, I feel compelled to continue the discussion. I address Grimmy's earlier information, point on point:
"These is NO OLYMPIC IN LINE HOCKEY" you are so correct in that comment. There isnt FOR NOW! There is however a real strong push to get it in the OLYMPICS.
-IOC President Jacques himself has said in front of a world-wide television audience that 1. the process for adding any Olympic sports is highly restrictive and controlled, 2. by published Olympic regulation, there will be no new sports added until and unless a present sport is dropped, and 3, there is no inclination whatsoever to add any such sports at this time. Those who are familiar with the process will tell you how many Olympiad "down the road" must pass before such a process would come to fruition, even if initiated today. Point is, we won't see inline hockey in any Olympics until 2020.
1) USARS/AAU is the ONLY supported and recognized organized program by the IOC! They have the rights from congress and the IOC to be the program that has the ability to get this sport IN the Olympics. USAHIL does NOT have any rights to a) put players in or on any Olympic team OR perspective team WHEN they do allow the game in the Olympics. PERIOD!!
-USA Hockey is a member of the IOC. Walter Bush has been a member of the IOC board of directors. This is part of the problem that the IOC has in the U.S: The IOC has two members of the Olympic community (USA Roller Sports, and USA Hockey) that it already does business with. Both would like to operate the U.S. Olympic inline hockey program when and if the opportunity arises. Make no mistake abut this, to state the obvious, the U.S. Olympic (ice) hockey team is operated by USA Hockey, not AAU or USARS. Congress has made no Olympic NGB appointment for this sport. The IOC has made no such appointment. The IOC has requested of FIRS, who has of course requested of USARS, to provide program and team operation for U.S. participation in the Pan American Games, and the World Games, two Olympic affiliated events. USARS categorically points toward this appointment as their "mandate" for the Olympic team. USA Hockey continues to present its case to the appropriate national and international bodies. USARS has quit the inline hockey business. AAU continues to list USARS as "The National Governing Body of Inline Hockey" on its internet site. No such designation has been leagally made by congress or the IOC. The congreesional regulation that Keith Knoll, among others continues to promulgate as their "mandate," has nothing to do with either IOC appointment nor compliance with IOC regulation. For AAU to continue to use these terms is deliberately misleading to the public.
FACT: the ONLY reson USAHIL and NARCH joined together as one was a cash deal to inflate the numbers of participants in USAHIL to be able to go to the IOC to show "THEY" had the numbers to put a team together for the Olympics. (P.S. it didnt work)
I assure you that USAHIL, Narch, State Wars, and others, have a whole bunch of stuff planned for the future of inline hockey, and they will be doin it all together. In fact, what they accomplish will greatly enhance opportunities for all our players (even AAU players!) in the very near future. Less obliquely, there are many reasons, not just "the only," that NARCh and USAHIL have established a working relationship.
USARS DID walk away from in line or excuse me ROLLER hockey. They did for several reasons. a) the program was in such dissarray. Even now it is more organized that it was then. b)there thought ice was more important to them. c) they SCREWED UP! suprised at that comment?
-Please don't trivialize my note that roller hockey is not inline hockey...in fact, the FIRS application on the Olympic proposal table, the one they are making that "real strong push" for, does not even mention inline hockey play.
Fact: right now no one is truly educated on how USARS and AAU are working. Everyone seems to have their own idea. Some are correct in their ideas some are not.
-I get my ideas regarding AAU from the published material on their internet site, the internaitonal sports media, Keith Knoll, national inline hockey director for AAU, and Raul Castaneda, district director for AAU inline hockey. My interest, and interactions are all first-hand.
I CAN tell you that AAU is running the inline-roller program to make it become more of an international sport. They are sending players and person to many countries to get the sport taught and rinks to be built. In countries like Argnetina where "cane hockey" was the hockey they played has now been changer to inline-roller hockey. Look at Ireland, the UK, Australia, Japan, etc. This has not happened overnight.
-These are excellent programs. They will help make the sport better everywhere.
I will admit that USARS did make a horrbile mistake in letting inline go. They do admit that.
You look at NHL right now, how many cities REALLY are missing it? Not many. They have made many mistakes on the way they chose to run the league. They wont admit to it. USARS does, and they have chosen the AAU to run the program. They are doing a wonderful job. This year alone will be the largest turnout for the USA Camps they have. The "Junior Olympics" was the best attended to date. Dont give me the fact oh heck it was in STL and all the STL teams attended. THAT is NOT TRUE!
I have no problem with the things that AAU has accomplished. I have a problem with what they are not doing. Their development camp is an ingratiating invitational, closed-shop operation. USARS didn't ask AAU to take over the program. USARS was incredibly lucky that AAU wanted to expand its market, and came along to take up the program when they did. AAU asked USARS, not the other way around.
Just another comment in closing, you say the using of the name means nothing, correct? Do this then... ok?
There in your hot bed of Texas, make a tournament and call it "USA OLYMPIC" tournament of "whatever". Lets see what happens, and then make sure you have a great attorney on call. If it didnt mean a thing, do you REALLY think that USARS/ AAU could use it? I'll answer it for you. NO!!
-Uh, now I must be misunderstanding your point. Where have I said that use of the Olympic terminalogy means nothing? On the contrary, I have said that AAU uses its "Junior Olympic, and USARS' pan american, world game, and FIRS nomenclature to imply that they are something they are not. I consider this to be a deliberately deceptive trade practice. Like calling your "golden arcs," different than MacDonald's "golden arches," to quote Eddie Murphy.
Now I know youll come back and have a HUGE article to respond.
-I apologize if I have wasted either your's or anyone elses' time.
I will not give a response and this is not to anger anyone. I just wanted to give a different perspective than yours. YOU LOVE USAHIL, I find them curious and different in their calculations. To have AAU to go into ICE would be a great way to bridge the gap between ice and inline. With the gap made more narrow how can it hurt? DO we see that USAHIL narrowing that gap?
One last question and you may not have the answer here. Maybe no one will.
WHAT CHANGES DID THE UNIFYING OF NARCH AND USAHIL ACCOMPLISH? WHAT CHANGES HAVE MADE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE THERE BEEN IN THE GAME? HOW HAS IT MADE ANY CHANGES IN THE EDUCATION OF THE GAME? HAS IT MADE IT STRONGER?
-This is happening already.
Or did it really just pad some ones pocket for the beloved insurance? For example that worthless piece of paper that you pay 25.00 for and actually only costs them $2.81 cents? Oh but hey heres a T-shirt? and that my friend is TRUTH!!
Grimmy, this last paragraph is just name-calling. Two years ago, following internal financial scandals, I remarked that I "wouldn't let AAU drive my wheel barrow." I must apologize for that remark. We all need to stick with facts, like you have presented above, like I have also tried to do in by rebuttal information.
Please allow me to encourage and support further discussion and information exchange on this board, sealweenies, wherever. This is important, and we need all the good info we can get.
Thanks! for your time.
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