Rule book?

[sghcky13]

I am not sure if this is the correct place to post this question but here it goes. I have a discrepency with a call that was not made (actually two calls). One call was a goalie that was NOT wearing a girdle/padded shorts. I checked the rule books and it says that a goalie has to wear all goalie equipment or that goalie will not be allowed "goalkeeper privaleges." If the goalie plays in the game and the ref didn't know and didn't do anything about it, is the game supposed to be a forfeit? Also, if a player intentionally removes a piece of equipment in the game that player is to be assesed a minor penalty. That is exactly what the rule book says. My question is does the player have to play the puck without the piece of removed equipment in order to be given the penalty? I was at one time a certified referee, but now I am simply coaching a high school team. If anyone has any insight on these issues I would greatly appreciate it. I am not a coach however that is looking for any way to win a game, I am just checking about ruling and referees not doing there job (not knowing the rule book). Thanks again.

[MBurke]

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One call was a goalie that was NOT wearing a girdle/padded shorts. I checked the rule books and it says that a goalie has to wear all goalie equipment or that goalie will not be allowed "goalkeeper privaleges." If the goalie plays in the game and the ref didn't know and didn't do anything about it, is the game supposed to be a forfeit?


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First, I am not positive that padded shorts are a required piece of equipment. To my knowledge, I believe they're not on the required list of equipment for a goalkeeper - sounds nuts, but I think that's the case. In any case, the game would not be a forfeit. At worst, the offending team would get a minor penalty and the offending goalkeeper would not be permitted to return to the game until he/she were wearing the proper equipment.

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Also, if a player intentionally removes a piece of equipment in the game that player is to be assesed a minor penalty. That is exactly what the rule book says. My question is does the player have to play the puck without the piece of removed equipment in order to be given the penalty?

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No, the player does not have to play the puck. Simply intentionally removing the equipment would be enough to warrant a two-minute minor.

Mike Burke
Commissioner
Eastern Collegiate Roller Hockey Association
http://www.ecrha.net

[showtime89]

Agree with what Mike Burke says, and in addition, if the ref didn't see it, there is nothing you can do. If they saw it and did nothing about it(removing the equipment) then you have a legitimate gripe.

[sghcky13]

I came home after the game and looked in the rule book and a required piece of equipment for a goalie is padded shorts. The USA hockey inline rule book says "All goalkeepers must wear chest protection, a blocker glove, catching glove, leg guards, and padded hockey pants, all designed for hockey goalkeepers, to be permitted goalkeeper privileges." My question is, the referee saw that the goalie was not wearing the correct padding but he proceeded on with the game. I don't want to go ask for another teams forfeit because of something stupid like this. I do want to know if a forfeit would be the proper thing to be given in the case. The way I see it is, an illegal player played, and that (I think) is grounds for a forfeit. The referee saw the goalie, but neither referee mad any comments to the kid or the coach. My primary concern is safety. That kid could get hit and get seriously injured, especially if he wants to have kids. Thanks for all the help guys.

[MBurke]

Definitely not a forfeit. It's something you'll want to bring to the league's attention, as it's the referee's fault for not enforcing the rule.

Mike Burke
Commissioner
Eastern Collegiate Roller Hockey Association
http://www.ecrha.net

[showtime89]

If the referee didn't notice it, you are SOL. If you know he saw it and ignored it or you brought it to his attention, then you have a better chance at what ever.
By the way, how bad did you lose?

[sghcky13]

Well both games we lost pretty bad (11-1) and (6-0). I have just taken over this team and they are alot of first timers in a somwhat fast paced high school league. And the ref saw both of the penalties and failed to call it. In the case of the glove the referee told me in words that I was a moron and that I was making up rules just to try to win. I was slightly offended, but given the scores of the games I understand why he felt this way. I just wanted to make sure that he knows the rules from now on. I do not expect any forfeit or anything from here on out. I just want the guy to know what he is doing. It is a very important job and there are too many "yoyo's" who don't know the rule book refereeing games and missing calls. Thanks again guys for all the help and insight.