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Excellent ideas, for anyone who is not not familiar with the Interscholastic Hockey Federation, look it up it is an excellent program. I reffed a few game for them and they are great. It gives the high school kids a team that they and their school can be involved with. My son looks forward to playing for Newport Harbor in about 8 years.
Jeff Morgan
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Good recomendations and posting have merit in certain areas of the country. The world that I live in is very different. We have tried just about every bullet that you outlined with varying levels of success. We are Buffalo In-line Hockey Group a completely not for profit youth in-line hockey organization. We have a robust full season (32 teams in several age groups this fall) and rapidly improving tournament programs. We are completely volunteer. We are not a revenue source for anyone. We rent rink time and no member of the Board of Directors, the administration staff, house coaches and advisors recieve a penny.
Two years ago I took time off from work and attempted to go to as many schools as I could to post information about our organization. The first 3 schools told me that they had no interest in putting our brochures on the bulletin board. The 4th school had a security guard at the door. He indicated that his school had receieved a phone call from one of the other schools telling them that what I was doing. If I attempted to enter this school I would be arrested for trespassing.
There is 1 major hockey retailer in the area and a few small, inadequate ones. Three times I have sat down with the manager of the major retailer attemting to get some type of ccoperative agreement. Each time I was told that our kids are coming to his store anyway so why did he need to partner with us.
Several ice leagues in this area tell thier players that in-line hurts thier skills.
We run 2 Ironman tournaments each season with the proceeds going to a local charity. When a picture and article was sent to the local newspaper we were told they would not publish it because "nobody cares about your street hockey". The Buffalo Sabres when contacted and asked if someone from thier organization could drop the opening puck indicated that the cost to do that would be $1,000.
The TORHS National was in Buffalo this July. After weeks of begging, the same local paper published 4 inches on page 5 of the sports section about TORHS, the tournament and Buffalo In-line Hockey Group. When asked why they would not publish anything during the tournament or pictures of the tournament we were told "nobody cares about your street hockey". The same paper published a story and 2 pictures about an ice hockey clinic that drew 50 kids.
I have only touched the tip of the frustration iceberg that we deal with daily. Despite all of this and zero corporate sponsorship we are moving forward. We have run a deficit each year of our existence and the extra $$$ come directly from my wallet. Each Board member works at least 20 hours per week for BIHG with many of us working 40+ in addition to our full time jobs. We do this for one reason and one reason only-THE PLAYERS.
With almost no exception when new players/parents many of them ice players/parents come into our league they are extremely happy with what they see on the rink and more than extremely happy with our organization, structure and profesionalism.
I think your comments are helpfull but remember some of exist in an alternate world
Rich Gurbacki
Co-founder and League Director
Buffalo In-line Hockey Group
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Hi Rich,
Wow. I feel your pain. I've run into some of the same attitudes from INLINE hockey people. I plan to write an editor's note about that subject very soon.
Good luck!
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Dear Mr. Gurbacki;
With all due respect, according to Mapquest, we're separated by 2533.10 miles. According to author John Guare, we're only separated by six degrees. And if you believe for one minute that we're separated by frustration, then believe me when I say that we're actually brothers in the same hockey community and of the same world.
Due to my time constraints I can't share but one experience, but hope to help address others as time avails. I will start with your Public Relations efforts and the local newspaper experience.
Orange County, CA has an adult population of 2.3 million. Small by some measure and large compared to others. Readership is divided between two major newspapers, the LA Times and the OC Register with the Register delivering daily major and weekly community-based publications. Sports coverage in this market (DMA) is split with local major league professional and nationally ranked college teams. High school sports get regular coverage for each State sanctioned, mainstream sport at the major dailies and the local community papers. When speaking with the Sports editors about our high school program, they're too busy and too understaffed with 30+ varsity sports to also give coverage or space to roller hockey. The challenge seems daunting!
However, after writing the articles, taking the pictures and submitting each to editors for their pretty much slam-dunk publishing, I have been published a short handful of times with over 20 submittals. Most any author or PR agent would say that ain't too bad. Most recently, it took this combination with the added fact of two high school roller hockey teams from the same city making the State finals to get into even the local community paper.
Frustrating? H E Double Hockey Sticks yes it is. Is it the same for any business to fight their way in to get this same attention. Yes! Answer: Persistence pays big dividends. Know the rules of their game, prepare your plan and then work the plan.
Again, I empathize with your frustration and know from your writing that you and your organization will continue to grow in spite of the odds.
Bless you for all you do, Brother!
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Seriously, there needs to be a list and or promotion done with the kids who have been drafted by NHL teams who started/played roller hockey and how it helped their game.
I guess the people in Buffalo won't forget about Hasek and how he crosschecked someone in the face and was arrested in the Czech republic during a roller pick up game.
A lot of the pro's I have talked to tell me how roller has helped their games and gave them the ability to have better hands and see the play develop quicker.
With the support of these professional athletes. we can help get this great game the recognition it deserves.
The Ducks have Bobby Ryan who grew up playing roller hockey in Upland and was an original Gretzky travel player who won the NARCh championship in 1999 along with Itan Chavira.
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Other than Lee Sweat, it seems to me that most pro ice players, and not just in the NHL, seem to be afraid to "come out of the closet" and admit the influence roller/inline hockey has had on their game.
It just kills me.
Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8
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Jay:
Thanks for writing. I understand that we have some similarities but I respectfully submit that we have more differences. Witness the fact that you have a high school in-line program and every high school AD that I spoke with has-with a smile on his face as if it was the most ridiculous thing he ever heard-said not interested. I sumbit an article each week to the local newspaper and with the exception of the one article I mentioned have never been published. But I think we are brethren driving toward the same goal and I will use the parking lot idea, unless it snows next Saturday. Keep on pushing.
Rich
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Doug Jones
Seriously, there needs to be a list and or promotion done with the kids who have been drafted by NHL teams who started/played roller hockey and how it helped their game... The Ducks have Bobby Ryan who grew up playing roller hockey in Upland and was an original Gretzky travel player who won the NARCh championship in 1999 along with Itan Chavira.
Doug,
Great Idea! I'm on part of that and will gladly contribute or collaborate with someone who writes better than me.
This next weekend at The 949 in Irvine, formerly known as the Wayne Gretzky Roller Hockey Center and later the California Roller Hockey Center, former Anaheim Duck Joe DiPenta will be joined by the Ducks' Brad May, Bobby Ryan, Todd Marchant, George Parros and several other players from the Anaheim Ducks in a roller hockey skills event for charity.
I plan to be there for interviews and lots of pictures. More on this to follow!
Meanwhile, you also have some great experience and ideas on roller hockey promotions that can help this community. Thanks for the shares and all you do!
Best! (Go Pirates)
Jay
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zipyaj
Doug,
This next weekend at The 949 in Irvine, formerly known as the Wayne Gretzky Roller Hockey Center and later the California Roller Hockey Center, former Anaheim Duck Joe DiPenta will be joined by the Ducks' Brad May, Bobby Ryan, Todd Marchant, George Parros and several other players from the Anaheim Ducks in a roller hockey skills event for charity.
Best! (Go Pirates)
Jay
Bobby Ryan played out of LaVerne with the Gretzky team that won NARCH squirt platinum, in 2000. I was the GM of LaVerne when Bobby played there. It's kind of a homecoming for him, and Jay it would be great if you could get a picture of him with a quote of how he played at the center and also won NARCh!!!
http://www.narch.com/Results/NARCh_F...206013084.html
We need more players like him to support the sport and let people know what a great game it is!!!
Doug
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Doug Jones
Bobby Ryan played out of LaVerne with the Gretzky team that won NARCH squirt platinum, in 2000. I was the GM of LaVerne when Bobby played there. It's kind of a homecoming for him, and Jay it would be great if you could get a picture of him with a quote of how he played at the center and also won NARCh!!!
http://www.narch.com/Results/NARCh_F...206013084.html
We need more players like him to support the sport and let people know what a great game it is!!!
Doug
that link also shows something else that some people who weren't around back then might find interesting.. ;)
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an idea each day... Keep It Simple.
Try doing a keyword search "HELP Hockey" into any browser -- you may find some cool results with loads of free ideas from others.
What works for you?
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Every so once in a while you get lucky with the press or local media... Avenues magazine just ran a one page article entitled Roll With It - Roller Hockey is the wave of the future.
Focused on the 949 Roller Hockey Center in Irvine, CA, the writer has done a nice job for giving their readership of approx. 56,000 a new sense of our sport.
More readers outside of the sport brings new players into the sport.
Keep on keepin' on!
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There is 1 major hockey retailer in the area and a few small, inadequate ones. Three times I have sat down with the manager of the major retailer attemting to get some type of ccoperative agreement. Each time I was told that our kids are coming to his store anyway so why did he need to partner with us.
One modest recommendation. Instead of the major retailer who doesn't feel like he needs you, maybe you'd have more luck trying to build a relationship with one or more of the small, indadequate ones. After all, maybe they can help you, and you can help steer your kids toward them and away from the one that doesn't appreciate them anyway.
Gary Alpert