Wheel hopping

[psyko]

Has anyone else experienced this? When I hockey stop the wheels instead of sliding, they hop and make a noise kind of like a heel brake. I am using Labeda gripper extremes, and I play on a regular sports court. This had never happened to before I got these wheels with my G-60. I know this sounds stupid but is it just because I am too light (130lbs) or is it the wheels.

[rinkrat15]

Try Rink Rat wheels, We dont hop.

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[MDE3]

You are just experiencing "good grip" and that will allow you to stop faster. You may have to decrease your skate angle relative to the floor. What I mean is stop at a sharper angle. The sharper the angle the more you will tend to slide because you actually have less weight on your wheels, and therefor less "bite". A little practice will soon overcome this.

[RichardGraham]

Hi Mike,

Any word from the advertising department?

Sincerely,

Richard Graham
Editor
Inline Hockey Central

[rinkrat15]

not yet

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[JMUDukes26]

In theory a dual density wheel would make stopping easier for the same reason that was mentioned above. The wheel would spread out a bit, allowing for more surface area to grip and ease you to a stop. It makes sense, but can anyone confirm it?

oh and richard, could you send me the advertising rates? I'd be interested to see them.

Gary

[gekigangarIII]

Good grief.. this is just due to the hardness of your wheel. If your wheel is harder than the previous pair and has good grip it will "jump" as you'e talking about... it's a combination of the material gripping but not "giving" as much as the previous wheels...

and really... rinkrat wheels don't jump.. come on already. Is there anything these wheels *don't* do? Give me a pair, I'll make them jump. If I can't, I'll buy them...

[rinkrat15]

Um yes they do give you a jump" again thanks for the opinion from somebody who hasnt skated on them yet. also these wheels do everything. With the exception slipping and tearing.

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[almostheroes]

The hardness of your wheel is actually harder than the ones you are use too, causing the hopping. Durometer that states 74A could vary from 72A to 76A. This is allowed as a +/_ 2 durometers for all wheel makers. So your 74A could really be a 76A.

[almostheroes]

Did you get my e-mail on advertising and trial ?

[MDE3]

Well in most cases the softer the wheel - the grippier it is, although not always, - wheel construction and material composition also effect this.

[gekigangarIII]

"also these wheels do everything."

seriously, you've got to be the most combative uninformative sales rep for any hockey product I've ever seen... you give conjecture and opinionated spin to sell your product... did you ever sell used cars?

I don't need to skate on the wheels to hear all the smoke you're blowing up our butts..

I'm more than happy to try the wheels and I most certainly will buy the wheels when they're available, but SHEESH, you're too freaking much...

[Rebecca]

gekigangarIII

Aside from the fact Mike is the rinkrat rep, if you believed in a product as much, it would be just as easy for you to do the same. Mike is the rep becasue he believes in the product NOT viceversa. You don't have to read his posts if it annoys you just like those who are sick of hearing me promote ECRHA might not read mine.

Incidentally, the wheels are the bomb! And Incidentally I agree with you Graham about integrity.

Rebecca

[RichardGraham]

Hi Geki,

I've been called "the most impatient person in the world" (and this is by FRIENDS), so I have amazed myself with how patient I've been with Rink Rat and his constant posts, when he gives absolutely NOTHING in return for using this great forum (on behalf of the company that probably doesn't pay him much anyway).

Frankly, I'm done. I don't believe that Rink Rat wheels will ever advertise on IHC, and at this point, I don't even care. I don't even care if these wheels have the ability to create world peace. That's because I've lost faith in the messenger, and if I can't trust the messenger, why should I trust the message?

Everyone I've ever trusted in my life has given me something back for my trust, even if it's only a pat on the back. All I've gotten from this Rink Rat dude is promises (for what, three months now?) and 'tude toward loyal IHC readers who ask hard questions about his company's products.

I'd rather be poor than suck up to such people.

Sincerely,

Richard Graham
Editor
Inline Hockey Central

[RichardGraham]

Hi Almost,

Yep, I got it. Thanks. I've just been busy with work, been dealing with a bad cold, and trying to update the IHC Home Page. I sent you an e-mail today. Hope you got it.

Sincerely,

Richard Graham
Editor
Inline Hockey Central

[rinkrat15]

A little harsh Rich, Listen Before we spend 3000.00 with anybody we like to feel it out a bit, and if it takes 2-3 months then so be it, Were not afraid to spend the money as seen with our advertising with Narch, Torhs and sealweenies, And if the answer is no from our advertising people then I would never post on here again. But for you to slam me because I havent done it on your time line is bogus and you know it. Were still reviewing your prices and what we want out of your site, when we decide you will be the first to know. slamming me on your board is hardly the way to make this happen, We understand that your providing a forum for our sport, and money will help. But before we advertise with anybody we need to evaluate what were getting into, You have never provided the amount of hits you get and fromwhat i have seen on the site the same 30 people are on here everyday, if I'm wrong let me know.
But to say that you dought we would ever advertise with you and slamming me is wrong and all you have to do is call Mark Ellis, Darryn Goodwyn or Tony Abbate and ask them how we are to work with.....MIke<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by rinkrat15 on 03/26/03 07:36 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

[rinkrat15]

By the way, I personally love the site and admire what you have done, I personally would love to be on board with you but I dont make the advertising decisions, once I hear that its a go the I will call you, And if its a no go then I will also call you and inform you. I will promise you this, I will not mention our products on your site in the forums until we advertise with you from today on, Fair enough. Let me know...Mike

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[CheckMate]

comparing this site to seelweanies is a disgrace, so is the fact that anyone advertises on it (SW that is), rink rat included which just shows how ignorant your advertising people are. I have been skating on your wheels since one of your reps gave me a set and they are hands down the best.

[rinkrat15]

Thanks, I know how good IHC is, thats why I am here all day everyday. I honestly hope we can work something out. Plus i personally know about 80 % of the people that talk on this board. I know its frustrating for IHC but I'm working on it...Take care guys....Mike

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[RichardGraham]

Hi Mike,

You're right in saying that my post was harsh and too directed toward you. For that, I apologize.

However, let me answer the inaccuracies in your reply.

1. &gt;&gt;Before we spend 3000.00 with anybody we like to feel it out a bit, and if it takes 2-3 months then so be it&lt;&lt;

IHC's basic advertising price is $200 per month for 4,000 impressions. At a nickel an impression, it is high. However, that's partly to stave off non-serious advertisers, and partly because IHC is a niche site with passionate readers who BUY products advertised on site. You've seen sales via IHC through your posts alone, and you can't deny that.

I don't know where you came up with the $3,000 figure; perhaps I'd suggested that to you as a "semi-permanent" Home Page banner placement, which is something I've considered doing for a while. I don't recall.

2. &gt;&gt;Fromwhat i have seen on the site the same 30 people are on here everyday, if I'm wrong let me know.&lt;&lt;

I'll gladly let you know. You're wrong. Have you ever used the "who's online" feature of the IHC Message Board? If so, you'll often see 10 registered readers and 25 unregistered readers using the boards. That shows that there are many more people who read the Message Board yet choose not to register and post. While I'd love to have everyone who comes to IHC register for the Message Board, I respect their reasons for not doing so.

3. In another post, you mention a "competing" site's "millions of hits." That's laughable. I've explained before what a "hit" means, and it means NOTHING. But don't believe me, ask any honest Web master.

Sincerely,

Richard Graham
Editor
Inline Hockey Central

[rinkrat15]

Were cool Rich, I know its frustrating....Mike

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[gekigangarIII]

&lt;&lt;I will promise you this, I will not mention our products on your site in the forums until we advertise with you from today on, Fair enough.&gt;&gt;

Mike,

It's not that we don't want to hear about the product... quite the opposite. We actually want to hear about the PRODUCT. It's one thing to give us some tangible compliments, testing results, word of mouth testimonials or even product data, but it's quite another to hear "these wheels rule", "they ARE the best" and "nobody comes close" as product information.

We aren't monkeys, save the rhetoric and heresay for the advertisements... we're a bit smarter than that. We'd just like to actually hear about the products. Many of us here are very serious (and informed) about current technology and understand many of the intricacies of that technology... treat us as such. Not to mention, many of us have *direct* ties to (or even are in some cases) the people that will be supplying your products to the end user.

That's all... sorry about the rants..

[rinkrat15]

Point taken, Thanks boys...Mike

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.

[missionhockey21]

Well put Rich :-)

[missionhockey21]

Mike, although I am very intrested in your product, you have baisically been getting free advertising for months from IHC. If you care what the Rink Rat company will get out of it so much, just realize you probably have many people waiting to buy your high priced wheels, myself included. Its the least you could do after advertising on this site so much and seeing the intrest it has generated about your product.

[missionhockey21]

Although seelweanies is a good site, I feel that IHC blows it away in terms of layout and the people who visit it:-)

[missionhockey21]

gekigangarIII, go to the rink rat website, I feel they give very good descriptions of their wheels and its performance.

[SpeedDemon]

I just have to chime in here. Hits do mean nothing. The &quot;other&quot; competing site that rhymes with steelbeenies, is really pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. Any webmaster that inflates his ego by using raw hits as a guage for site traffic, is an amateur by all accounts and only perpetrating lies towards his client and visitors. But then again, that &quot;other&quot; site seems to have a trend of egotistical ignoramuses, but that's another thread altogether....

I would venture to guess that this site gets at least three times as much traffic as the &quot;other&quot; site.....at least....based on numbers that have been publically announced. I for one, rarely even visit that &quot;other&quot; site, and I'm a hockey fanatic. But I'm sure I've accounted for about 100,000 hits, according to their proprietary counting system.

This isn't intended to be directed towards Rink Rat or this site, it's just my career-professional two cents (see my profile)....

[rinkrat15]

No offence taken, I know what your saying. Hope all is well...Mike

National Inline manager for Rink Rat wheels.