school contributions

[warwick]

how much/what do schools contribute going to the nationals, just curious.

[Ben Lambert]

UMSL gave us $10500 for Nationals.

[BLowe7]

We're getting a lot of problems from our school..they've agreed to pay for the registration and hotels but are not so sure about paying for travel...

[dan sangiorgio]

neumann covers everything including taking care of most the arragnments. They booked and payed for airefare, hotel, 2 vans, food money roughy 15-20 a day per player. They also pay for our coaching staff. They have done this now three years in a row on top of our yearly budget.

[Jtslick89]

about $1000

The rest is from our pockets or from fundraising.

[Ben Lambert]

neumann covers everything including taking care of most the arragnments. They booked and payed for airefare, hotel, 2 vans, food money roughy 15-20 a day per player. They also pay for our coaching staff. They have done this now three years in a row on top of our yearly budget.

wow. you guys have it pretty good.

[CaneDogg]

You guys are very lucky our school gives us 2000 per season and thats with us debating with them all year.

[CSteamer]

Yea, we get $1000 for the season from our school. USC has a smaller budget for all of its club sports then some ice hockey clubs i know around the area. Its around $30,000 for like 28 teams or something like that. Its a joke.

[CaneDogg]

Ya its really horrible, schools can give $800 a month to football players for spending money but they cant give $800 a month to a hockey team that travels all over the place representing there school. :mad:

[sanford]

We didnt always get that much money at neumann. the early guys did a good job of setting the club up. when my senior year came around getting the money that we need was as simple as filling out some paper work. i dont think i heard "no" once.

[dan sangiorgio]

wow. you guys have it pretty good.
yeah but mainly because ice and roller hockey are the only mens team sports ever in post season play so i guess they have to use the left over athletic funds somewhere because ever other mens team here is a joke, in sports like baseball and lax it would take them a decade to win 16 games.
in the four years i have been at neumann only three mens teams have finshed with a winning record
ice hockey (twice)
Roller (all four)
tennis (once, because steve klenk is a beast)
so while our roller team has a very tight budget most of the year the school does right by us and rewards us for being a winning team but also because our team had good relationship with the school in the four years i have been at neumann only three mens teams have finshed with a winning record
ice hockey (twice)
Roller (all four)
tennis (once, because steve klenk is a beast)
*sanford is right it did take a couple of years of hard work before the money was there

[Goldberg1]

We get $3500 for the year, which doesn't even cover NCRHA/MCRHL dues. Trying to get any extra money just proves to be nearly impossible, so we do our own fundraising/budgeting so we can afford everything.

[hockeyplayer1]

On the subject of fundraising that everyone seems to be mentioning, what fundraisers has your team done and how successful have they been?

[csdahlberg]

We (Mizzou) got $3500 total to use between both of our teams for the regular season. We could possibly get *up to* $3000 for nationals, but they still haven't decided exactly what that number is, yet. I'm hoping we get $2000.

[DUHockey9]

We (Drexel) got $29,000 for the season this year. That has to cover 3 teams though. I don't recall how much extra funding we got last year for Nationals. I think it might have been around 10,000.

[Leaferguy]

A little under 10k...

[osu_buckeyes]

Man, I'm jealous of you guys. This year we got a check of a whopping $140 for our season. I think we may be getting ~$500 additional for nationals but I'm not sure. Total that is about 0.00058% of our school's total athletic budget...

[DGlass]

Just another problem that clubs have to go overcome. Every school has different policies regarding financial assistance to club sports teams. Even when a school does not have a mandated limit, the club must make continued efforts to earn and deserve the funds.

My freshman year at Pitt, I believe we received around $10-$15K from the school. By my junior and senior years, I want to say we were pushing $60K from the school. Of course, when you have 250 players across 16 teams (2 ECRHA, 2 WPA, and a 12 team intramural league) and book 10-12 hours of rink time a week, it adds up.

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The most important factor to remember is that you do not deserve anything more than the minimum. You need to earn it. You need to organize your club to the utmost degree and prove to your club sports department, athletic department, alumni relations, recreation, etc. etc.) that you are worthy of their help.

Maybe the Alumni Association will write an article about the club and mention the financial situation and maybe someone donates some money.

Maybe the athletic department helps you get a discount on equipment or offers you use of the student-athlete facilities. Maybe they help you design a training regimen for your club and offer nutritional advice.

Maybe your school will see that the journalism major on your team is writing weekly articles for the school paper about club sports, and the finance major is managing your budget, and the sports medicine/physical therapy major is taking the lead to run dry-land practices. Maybe the school sees that members of the club are involved in the league (I can think of 6-7 Pitt players who have worked with or for the ECRHA over the years as timekeepers, Board members, commissioners and even a co-founder of the league - ok, so Jon Huck played one year, but I used it to my advantage in negotiating more money from the school) and gives you an extra hundred dollars.

You need to prove to your school that you deserve the assistance they can provide. Make them struggle and argue and fight to say 'No' to your requests.

[Leaferguy]

You need to prove to your school that you deserve the assistance they can provide. Make them struggle and argue and fight to say 'No' to your requests.
Having learned this the hard way, Dave's absolutely correct. The small things, like consistent and useful communication, community contributions, and proper conduct go a long way.

We actually had a hotel contact our school this year to tell them that we were a pleasure to have as guests and they would welcome us back whenever in the area. We've also worked hard to improve our communications and make sure the admin is never uninformed.

It does help that our school puts a lot of money out for club sports. We don't have the huge NCAA following, so with basketball likely being our biggest "exposure" sport, the school very fairly distributes money to non-NCAA athletic groups. Maybe if your school's club sports budget is too low, you can get involved in changing that fact? Get on the student boards or whatever.

The alternative is to win 99% of your games like Neumann and Lindenwood :D

[CaneDogg]

Fund raisers don't really help out that much, our team has done some but it never seems to get us over $200. Its tough especially at big schools, they look at us like Roller Hockey hmm just give them a couple thousand so they leave us alone. But in reality it really costs teams a lot of money to play, especially when practice facilities are off campus and the team has to pay for floor time.

[bakerg81]

Some schools are severely limited in what their school is going to offer them. There's only certain levels that you can reach. Penn State, for example, gives us around $2000 a year. You may say, well you need to do this this and that to get more money, but the fact is that we do just about everything that we can. The most that any club sport at our school gets is about $4500.

The school does set aside $75,000 dollars for club sports for regional and national competitions, but that has to be split up among the 65-70 odd club sport programs we have. This year, we're getting somewhere between $1200 to $2000 for our B team to go to Colorado.

[CaneDogg]

Same at our school, we get 2000 and the club that gets the most money usually gets between 4500 and 5000 so I guess its similar at all the big schools.

[showtime89]

I am amazed at the contributions. When we (SUNY Brockport) went to the first CRHL Nationals in '99, all we got was our gas expenses paid for (we all went in 2 cars) (6 skaters and a goalie). Also, we got letters from the Athletic Department giving us free passes to miss class while we were out of town like the Varsity sports get, but that was hugely valuable. At the time our whole year budget was $1600.

[DGlass]

Bear in mind that Pitt is a school with 30,000+ total students (grad and undergrad).

Every school has different policies on how much the Student Government Board, club Sports, Recreation department can give....this is why you need to be creative in how you raise funds and request money.

Have you gone to your alumni association, athletic department, random other offices to see if your club can do anything to receive money?

One summer (I was in Australia studying), Pitt ran a youth roller hockey camp and made a few thousand dollars.

Maybe you can negotiate with your local rink to trade rink time for your players to run youth leagues, coach, referee, etc.

I would love to see more people see managing a club sport as more than filling out paperwork for their school and playing hockey. As you are leading your club, you are getting the chance to develop leaderships, finance/budgeting, communication, negotiation, and a host of other skills that can be extremely useful in your life after school (and roller hockey). Many of these things have been far more useful in my professional career than things I learned in class.

[str8iq]

we get excused from our classes from the university, and we have our own rink on campus that we get to practice on for free...thats about it

[csdahlberg]

...we have our own rink on campus that we get to practice on for free...thats about it

that right there would be worth about $6k to us, if you include gas money. we drive 90 miles to the rink for both practices and games.

[BLowe7]

We got a little over 5K for nationals, but we're meeting with the Pres of the University to try and get some more