2008 ECRHA Bids

[missionhockey33]

How will the ECRHA bids be determined. I saw the paper sign at regionals saying that it would be live tomorrow night?

[MAmato]

calculated out, the unofficial bid list goes

Neumann
WCU
Albany
Ship
Maine
Temple
Drexel
Vermont
Mville
Cornell
Binghamton
SRU

[DUHockey9]

calculated out, the unofficial bid list goes

Neumann
WCU
Albany
Ship
Maine
Temple
Drexel
Vermont
Mville
Cornell
Binghamton
SRU

Vermont should be above Drexel. They have 20 with 7 regular season wins and 2 regionals wins. We have 19 with 9 regular season wins and 1 regionals tie.

[missionhockey33]

what about D1

[William Bourque]

I think the order that our region will rank them for the selection committee will be

Buffalo
Stony Brook
Towson
Rutgers
Rhode Island
Penn State
Army
Pittsburgh

I would double check that though and don't assume its correct.

[missionhockey33]

burke or bourque where can i see the live bid selection tomorrow night at 9

[InlineMBA]

The way I figure it -

Stony Brook already earned an automatic bid with the regular season championship.

Buffalo has now earned an automatic bid with their win @ regionals.

The balance of the teams are as (I calculate them) follows:

1. Towson - 30 Regular Season Points + 12 Regional Points = 42 points
2. Rutgers - 32 Regular Season Points + 7 Regional Points = 39 points
3. Rhode Island - 28 Regular Season Points + 10 Regional Points = 38 points
4. Penn State - 26 Regular Season Points + 4 Regional Points = 30 points

Please correct me if you think I've got something out of wack.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[BLowe7]

Only one ECRHA DI team gets an auto bid, stony brook will just be the first team on the board for ECRHA because they were the number 1 seed going into regionals, at least thats what I think I may be wrong

[InlineMBA]

According to Mike Burke's prior post:

http://www.inlinehockeycentral.com/forums.php?var1=http://www.inlinehockeycentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31585

Division I

- For nationals bids, regional champ gets auto bid, Regular season winner gets the 2nd bid. All other seeding is determined by point system (3 points for a regional win, 2 points for a reg. season win, 1 point for all ties and OT losses at regionals)

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[William Bourque]

burke or bourque where can i see the live bid selection tomorrow night at 9

They are usually posted on these MB's and on www.ncrha.org as soon as they are released. Please realize they are anything but "live". The meeting starts and 9pm and ends when it ends. The process has known to take past 2am sometimes, there is a lot at stake and they want to make sure they get it correct.



Only one ECRHA DI team gets an auto bid, stony brook will just be the first team on the board for ECRHA because they were the number 1 seed going into regionals, at least thats what I think I may be wrong


Correct. The only teams that are going to Colorado as of this moment from the ECRHA are Buffalo DI & B, Neumann and Nassau. The committee can vote to take only one team from ANY region.

The ECRHA has tends to get 4 DI teams into the tournament and 6 DII teams. However, the ECRHA is only guaranteed to get one team in each division into the tournament.

It should be interesting to see how things fall around the country and what teams from the ECRHA make it to the tournament.

[InlineMBA]

Tx - Now I understand how the D1 bids work.

1. Buffalo - Automatic Bid

ON THE BUBBLE

2. Stony Brook - by virtue of their winning the regular season
3. Towson (42 pts)
4. Rutgers (39 pts)
5. Rhode Island (38 pts)
6. Penn State - (30 pts)

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[dan sangiorgio]

i dom't know why the acc board would vote to make it that way for d1 but any team that doesn't win a game at regionals doesn't deserve a bid to to nationals.....

[William Bourque]

i dom't know why the acc board would vote to make it that way for d1 but any team that doesn't win a game at regionals doesn't deserve a bid to to nationals.....

The Division I ACC voted on it, meaning the majority of Division I teams wanted to make this change. There are plenty of reasons this is a good thing. If Neumann College went 16-0-0 in the regular season and went 0-0-3 in the Round Robin and then lost to the eventual champion 7-6 in the QF's, would you not think at 16-1-3 you would deserve a bid to nationals?

The Division II ACC voted not to use it and it's not being used. It was something the teams in Division I wanted and can vote to change for next season if they want it removed.

[hockeydude92]

i dom't know why the acc board would vote to make it that way for d1 but any team that doesn't win a game at regionals doesn't deserve a bid to to nationals.....
I'm assuming that your talking about Stony Brook and the performance they had this weekend.. I know shocking wasn't it? But denying them a bid to the NCT you're kind of wrong and not open minded with the statement, I mean opinion you made above. Regionals is when teams play like it was their last tournament ever, just to get a chance to go to nationals. In the case of Stony Brook, we all saw a team that was hot and undefeated from the beginning of October to the very end of January. The fact to even say they don't deserve to go to nationals is absurd. Buffalo deserves to go without a doubt after coming up short for a regular season championship by a point, but regained by winning the regional championship proving themselves. Stony Brook had a flat weekend until the quarterfinal game against Rhode Island which was probably one the most exciting games in the quarterfinal round to watch. If one team that won all the time won, teams would get bored and would either forfeit. Upsets are part of what makes sports ENTERTAINING and LIVELY. After this crazy weekend UM-St. Louis proves the description of an upset perfectly. Congratulations to guys on a job well done on coming back and beating the best. As for ECRHA D1 bids i would have to agree with Bourque and Steve Inge with the inputs they have made. Should be interesting on the outcome tomorrow night.

[ISFN]

-Off Topic-

Is there an order to the bids given out, as far as D1 first, D2 second....

Is that the way its done, ie:B teams will be the last to know?

[InlineMBA]

Stony Brook had a flat weekend until the quarterfinal game against Rhode Island which was probably one the most exciting games in the quarterfinal round to watch.

IMO: Bar none - and I'm including NARCh and TORHS here - the Stony Brook vs Rhode Island quarterfinal was the most physical game that I've seen played in a long, long time. I've never seen two ref's let a game be played at that high of a physical intensity level (not including NARCh Pro or TORHS Pro). There were a lot of "no calls". I know in the playoffs you want to let them play, but I think this game was a little over the top and kids could have been hurt. But, it was a hell of a game! Two very classy teams.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[hockeydude92]

this is a guestimate of what will see in D1.
1. Buffalo
2. UMSL
3. Colorado State
4. North Texas
5. Central Florida
6. Michigan State
7. UC Irvine
8. Lindenwood
9. Stony Brook
10. Eastern Michigan
11. Colorado
12. Texas Tech
13. Florida
14. Long Beach State
15. Towson
16. Rutgers
17. Rhode Island
18. Florida International
19. Ohio State
20. University of Michigan

Correct me if im wrong

[DGlass]

Sangiorgio -

If Duke goes undefeated during the regular season but loses in the first round of the ACC tournament, they would definitely still get a bid to the NCAA dance.

Stony Brook's situation is similar. They proved to be one of the dominant teams over the course of the regular season (as well as their performance in 2006-2007).

The primary difference is that the NCAA puts all non-automatic teams "on the board" whereas the NCRHA puts the one per region at a time (with each region's list being determined by the respective region).

I certainly understand the feeling that a team which shows such a poor performance at their regional tournament, you cannot overlook their dominant showing throughout the regular season.

[dan sangiorgio]

i should have been more clear in my post i think they should get a bid just not an auto-bid. i just think that this year in d1 you saw how close everyone was in the second semster and playoffs, one could make an arguement out of the top 8 teams they might have been 6th or 7th best team. it should be interesting to see how bids are handed out because this is the first year in a while d1 ecrha should be sending more teams then d2 ecrha.
i would like to see:buff,towson,URI,RU, and stonybrook all go and i think even a 6th team either army PSU and pitt go.
i just have a feeling you may only see four go

[DGlass]

Ok...thanks for clearing that up.

The only automatic bid handed out is to the winner of Regionals. The ACC reps of DI voted to award the 2nd seed for nationals ranking to the regular season winner IF that team did not win regionals. I believe the correct order of ECRHA teams is as follows:

Buffalo
Stony Brook
Towson
Rutgers
Rhode Island
PSU
Pitt
Army

I think it is very likely that the ECRHA gets 4 teams. Depending on what point in the selection process Rutgers is chosen, URI has a good chance of going and PSU could always get an alternate bid. I do not feel Pitt or Army have much of a chance this year. Stupid Pitt not being able to beat Towson...ever. Someday...someday.

[missionhockey33]

i should have been more clear in my post i think they should get a bid just not an auto-bid. i just think that this year in d1 you saw how close everyone was in the second semster and playoffs, one could make an arguement out of the top 8 teams they might have been 6th or 7th best team. it should be interesting to see how bids are handed out because this is the first year in a while d1 ecrha should be sending more teams then d2 ecrha.
i would like to see:buff,towson,URI,RU, and stonybrook all go and i think even a 6th team either army PSU and pitt go.
i just have a feeling you may only see four go

how do you figure 6th or 7th they beat towson,rhode island, and rutgers in the regular season. all those teams finished in the final four at regionals. the only team they haven't touched in the league was 08 Champs SUNY buffalo. they are anything but that low. DGlass was correct they did prove themselves as being a dominant team for the majority of the season. I'm not saying you should give them an autobid but they had a bad showing and have one more shot to redeeming themselves.

[RustyPipes27]

For the record, Stonybrook beat Towson in the preseason, which is considered to be a warm-up event, and did not play Buffalo.

Still, they are a Nationals-caliber team and deserve to be in Colorado.