Toe Tie Issue

[JMUhcky01]

I have been wearing Nike Bauer XXX leg pads and wear Bauer 1000 skates. I have been having an issue where part of my leg pad is just slightly touching my front wheel when using the toe tie, hindering my ability to move just slightly. It hasn't really been a problem until recently where I have had instances that my wheel is completely stopped when trying to skate hard to the bench, and was wondering if anyone knew of some way to rig something up to keep this friction from happening. I also recently just bought the crossbar 47mm wheels for the skates so I am finally upgrading from the stock hard wheels. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[whalercane]

I have been wearing Nike Bauer XXX leg pads and wear Bauer 1000 skates. I have been having an issue where part of my leg pad is just slightly touching my front wheel when using the toe tie, hindering my ability to move just slightly. It hasn't really been a problem until recently where I have had instances that my wheel is completely stopped when trying to skate hard to the bench, and was wondering if anyone knew of some way to rig something up to keep this friction from happening. I also recently just bought the crossbar 47mm wheels for the skates so I am finally upgrading from the stock hard wheels. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

John, I wear Vapor XX's (same pad as yours, just the "Made in China with cheaper materials" model- lol) with Tour Redline skates and 59mm Crossbars. I'll try to remember later today to take pics of my toe tie setup and I'll PM them to you.

-Ryan

[imasieve30]

JMUhcky01,

Do the XXX pads have a toe bridge that comes off the front of the boot channel? If so, do you cross the laces before feeding them into the skate like you would for ice hockey?

I have the original Bauer goal skates (same chassis as yours) and use Mission Heliums with the bridge. The only way I can keep the pad from interfering with the wheel is to make sure the bridge sits up flat against the toe cap of the cowling and doesn't tuck under and rub the wheel. Also, when I lace the pad down, I run the laces straight back from the bridge to the first cut out in the chassis and then cross there.

Traditionally, goalies cross immediately after coming through the bridge before going into the chassis and this can rub the front wheel with the laces. Hope this helps.

-Joe

[whalercane]

John, I'm having some computer problems that are preventing me from uploading pics of my Vapor toe tie method. As soon as the problem's fixed, I'll get you the pics.

Anyway, here's the methodology in a nutshell: Remove the skate laces from your bottom-most eyelets and relace your skates so that the laces only occupy the second set of eyelets (toward the toe of the skate) to the very top set of eyelets (nearest your ankle). Now, the next thing to do is lay your pad flat in front of you and run the toe tie laces (thin waxed laces seem to work best) through whatever hole is available in the front of the skate chasis. Next, bring the laces up from under the chasis through the open eyelets of the skate boot and tie a not the same as you'd normally tie in a pair of shoes.

If wheel clearance is a serious problem, FORGOE THE FIRST STEP (don't run the laces through the chasis) but if you're skating on 47mm's, this shouldn't be an issue because I am able to do this entire process and I skate on 59mm's.

I do know a bunch of goalies who only run the toe ties through the boot eyelets but I tried this once and found that it causes overrotation with my Vapors and likely would do the same to you.

Give it a shot and let me know if it helps. If the above's unclear (which is possible because I'm not always good at explaining myself), let me know and I'll keep working on uploading those pics...


-Ryan

[sixpack]

Hey John,
What I did to correct the same problem you are having is Iwent down to the local sheet metal supply store. I asked them for two scraps of aluminuim about 6 inches long, then I bent them around my front wheel with a pencil in between them to form kind of a fender for my front wheel, like you had on your bike when you were a kid. Then I drilled holes and trimmed the part and polished it to make it look like part of the skate. It works great. T

[JMUhcky01]

Thanks a lot, I'm going to try that trick with the re lacing and using the bottom eyelits at practice on Monday and see how that works for me.

[ProPIHAGoalie]

Thanks a lot, I'm going to try that trick with the re lacing and using the bottom eyelits at practice on Monday and see how that works for me.



Sent you a PM.

[superfuzz]

Im having the same issue with my XXX's. I use the 47 crossbars as well and the front wheel is catching on the tie at certain points. Im kinda new to toe tying in general. I never really used them in roller but the vapors were over rotating so badly i tried so I gave it a go. Seems to have helped with the over rotation, but as i said its catching.

Im gonna try some of the ideas, lemme know if you find anything that works for you.

[ProPIHAGoalie]

Im having the same issue with my XXX's. I use the 47 crossbars as well and the front wheel is catching on the tie at certain points. Im kinda new to toe tying in general. I never really used them in roller but the vapors were over rotating so badly i tried so I gave it a go. Seems to have helped with the over rotation, but as i said its catching.

Im gonna try some of the ideas, lemme know if you find anything that works for you.



Hey,

I have attached pic's of how I have my skates and pads set up.

I took a single long (96 in. should work for you) skate lace and put it through the toe bridge on the pad. I made a knot at each hole on the bottom to keep the lace where it is.

Then you feed each lace end through the first opening in the skate rail (NOT crossing the laces BEFORE you feed it through). Then you run the laces down the rail and cross them back through and pull them up over the boot and tie them off.

Hint: I cut the laces to length after I laced them up to make sure I had enough to tie off. I also rolled a piece of duct tape (about an inch and a half long) on the ends to make it easy to feed through the rail on the skate.

Make sure the front wheel is snug against the pad when you are done tying off the laces over the boot.

Now just pull your pad up off the floor and buckle up.

I also put my boot strap through the back hole in the rail.

Ready to go.


Hope this helps.

[ProPIHAGoalie]

Here are the rest of the pic's for the toe tie set-up.

[superfuzz]

Thanks for that! Im gonna give it a try at practice.

Btw, The Generals looked much improved that past weekend. Way better than the previous meetings. Glad to see you guys getting better.

[imasieve30]

Joshua,

Great idea! Keeps it simple. I use a thin boot lace on my setup to give even more clearance between the wheels. I probably end up replacing it more often, but atleast I know it isn't coming close to rubbing. I still go off the toe bridge on the Missions, but if I don't cinch them down to the pads, I don't have a rubbing issue.

-Joe

[teambergenfield]

Maybe if you weren't so busy giving interviews, you wouldn't have a "rubbing issue."

[imasieve30]

Ahhh, the entity that is Team Bergenfield has graced us with its presence in the goalie forum. :p

[ProPIHAGoalie]

Thanks for that! Im gonna give it a try at practice.

Btw, The Generals looked much improved that past weekend. Way better than the previous meetings. Glad to see you guys getting better.


Hey, thanks. Looks like we're doing better as a team now. Was VERY rocky at the start of the season. Being an expansion team, things like this are expected at first. Hopefully we'll get a win here this weekend up at Chantilly against the Potomac Mavericks.