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born2runPROgm
10-30-2006, 09:48 PM
VANCOUVER (CP) - The age for free agents in the NHL "is a joke" and could result in the Pittsburgh Penguins losing Sidney Crosby when he's just entering his prime, Vancouver Canucks general manager Dave Nonis said Monday.

"Pittsburgh is going to put seven years of development money into him and he can leave when he's 25," Nonis told a B.C. Chamber of Commerce meeting.

"I think if you assemble a good team, fans want to see that team stick together for more than one or two years. Our current agreement does not lend itself to that."

Nonis also criticized the NHL's current unbalanced schedule.

"I hate the schedule," he said, answering a question from the floor. "It does nothing for us.



"We should play every team in the league at least once. We all pay the same dues and right now the western teams are getting it right in the teeth for no good reason. We fly as much as we ever did and the eastern teams don't do a bloody thing."

Under the collective bargaining agreement, a player aged 29, with eight seasons in the league, became a free agent for the 2006-07 season. In 2008-09, a player aged 27, or one with seven seasons in the league, becomes an unrestricted free agent.

Crosby, the No. 1 pick in last year's draft, was 18 years old when he signed with the Penguins. By the time he's 25 he will have spent seven years in the league.

The Penguins could also lose Jordan Staal, their No. 2 pick in the June draft, when he turns 25. Pittsburgh said Monday the 18-year-old centre will stay with the team this year.

"I think we have a free agency age that is a joke," said Nonis.

Nonis told the crowd that overall he supported the collective agreement and it was good for the league.

"I think the (salary) cap is necessary to keep some teams from spending wildly," he said. "It has levelled the playing field."

In a later interview, Nonis said lowering the age of free agency could make hockey like baseball, where players shift teams every year.

"If you are a team that is struggling, it's a good thing, being able to get new faces," he said. "It helps generate interest in your market.

"If you are a team that is having a hard time holding your team together because of free agency and players are leaving, then it's not necessarily a good thing. You may lose the continuity a lot of markets enjoy."

In the past, teams looked to build over five-year cycles. Increased free agency reduces that to two or three-year cycles, he said.

"The Detroit Red Wings could have a five-year run if they did a good job of recruiting, trading, drafting and developing," Nonis said. "You could keep those players together.

"You are going to see movement among players every single year. To me, that's the worst part of our agreement. Get used to it. It's not going to change."

In an example of NHL scheduling, Vancouver fans had their first chance to see Washington's Alexander Ovechkin, last season's top rookie, on Friday. Crosby and the Penguins didn't play in Vancouver last season and won't make a trip to GM Place this year either.

When the league announced the unbalanced schedule, the theory was it would help to build division rivalries and allow for more compelling television matchups.

Nonis disagreed.

"Rivalries are built through playoffs," he said.

"I know the reasoning behind the schedule, I know why they did it. I don't necessarily agree that it is a good thing.

"It doesn't save us any time, we're not saving any money on travel and I know our fans want to see us play every team at least once."

The scheduling issue will probably be raised when GMs meet in Toronto Nov. 7.

"I think a lot of teams want the schedule changed," said Nonis.

"I think the league always wants to do what's ultimately best for all the teams. I believe they'll revisit it.

"Whether they'll change it, I don't know."

NLane
10-31-2006, 10:53 AM
Glad I'm not a GM that has to worry about things like that. I can't predict a stock outcome at the end of 5 years much less what players may be leaving. Gives me a headache just trying to think about it. Loyalty used to be with coaches and organizations. Now it's with the money and you can't blame them as their careers can end on one hit.

TheSnake22
10-31-2006, 11:08 AM
Lol...charles... you're funny... message to whom? are you going to change the free agency rules in the NHL? i think it's an opinion, one that other gm's definately share, especially with the schedules... but the free agency is what the owners had to give up in order to get the salary cap, and i'm sure they would rather have it this way than go back to before the lockout... Sure it sucks for pittsburgh because we wont be able to sign all of fleury, armstrong, crosby, malkin, and staal, but that's part of the game... maybe this time when we trade malkin before his contract ends, we can get a little more than we got for jagr...

Thank you for the very important message from the nhl emergency broadcasting system...

Hystyk28
11-01-2006, 03:23 AM
VANCOUVER (CP) - The age for free agents in the NHL "is a joke" and could result in the Pittsburgh Penguins losing Sidney Crosby when he's just entering his prime, Vancouver Canucks general manager Dave Nonis said Monday.

"Pittsburgh is going to put seven years of development money into him and he can leave when he's 25," Nonis told a B.C. Chamber of Commerce meeting.

"I think if you assemble a good team, fans want to see that team stick together for more than one or two years. Our current agreement does not lend itself to that."

Nonis also criticized the NHL's current unbalanced schedule.

"I hate the schedule," he said, answering a question from the floor. "It does nothing for us.



"We should play every team in the league at least once. We all pay the same dues and right now the western teams are getting it right in the teeth for no good reason. We fly as much as we ever did and the eastern teams don't do a bloody thing."

Under the collective bargaining agreement, a player aged 29, with eight seasons in the league, became a free agent for the 2006-07 season. In 2008-09, a player aged 27, or one with seven seasons in the league, becomes an unrestricted free agent.

Crosby, the No. 1 pick in last year's draft, was 18 years old when he signed with the Penguins. By the time he's 25 he will have spent seven years in the league.

The Penguins could also lose Jordan Staal, their No. 2 pick in the June draft, when he turns 25. Pittsburgh said Monday the 18-year-old centre will stay with the team this year.

"I think we have a free agency age that is a joke," said Nonis.

Nonis told the crowd that overall he supported the collective agreement and it was good for the league.

"I think the (salary) cap is necessary to keep some teams from spending wildly," he said. "It has levelled the playing field."

In a later interview, Nonis said lowering the age of free agency could make hockey like baseball, where players shift teams every year.

"If you are a team that is struggling, it's a good thing, being able to get new faces," he said. "It helps generate interest in your market.

"If you are a team that is having a hard time holding your team together because of free agency and players are leaving, then it's not necessarily a good thing. You may lose the continuity a lot of markets enjoy."

In the past, teams looked to build over five-year cycles. Increased free agency reduces that to two or three-year cycles, he said.

"The Detroit Red Wings could have a five-year run if they did a good job of recruiting, trading, drafting and developing," Nonis said. "You could keep those players together.

"You are going to see movement among players every single year. To me, that's the worst part of our agreement. Get used to it. It's not going to change."

In an example of NHL scheduling, Vancouver fans had their first chance to see Washington's Alexander Ovechkin, last season's top rookie, on Friday. Crosby and the Penguins didn't play in Vancouver last season and won't make a trip to GM Place this year either.

When the league announced the unbalanced schedule, the theory was it would help to build division rivalries and allow for more compelling television matchups.

Nonis disagreed.

"Rivalries are built through playoffs," he said.

"I know the reasoning behind the schedule, I know why they did it. I don't necessarily agree that it is a good thing.

"It doesn't save us any time, we're not saving any money on travel and I know our fans want to see us play every team at least once."

The scheduling issue will probably be raised when GMs meet in Toronto Nov. 7.

"I think a lot of teams want the schedule changed," said Nonis.

"I think the league always wants to do what's ultimately best for all the teams. I believe they'll revisit it.

"Whether they'll change it, I don't know."

waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa I like it. After a few seasons the rivalries will be back to the Patrick Division days. They are the games that sell anyway.