Rankings??

[WC player]

What ever happen to the IRC rankings or any other form of national polls??

[danglsauce]

I dont have the formula that the last guy had and this list is probably WAY off because of lack of inter-region play but here's a top ten.

1. Lindenwood (9-0-0) Total domination. Just put them here so it's called an upset when someone beats them.
2. Michigan State (8-0-0) Boise State rule. I dont know how good the Midwest is but they haven't lost.
3. UC Santa Barbara (7-1-0) West dominated Nattys last year and they only have one loss in a tough region.
4. Stony Brook (9-1-0) I think the best team in the east. Plays well, plays physical.
5. West Chester (10-1-0) Everyone likes them. Has that kid that scores all the time. (You heard it here first) They will not win the east, unless they get a superstar goalie which I heard is a rumor.
6. Ohio State (6-2-0) Only losses came to MSU. Picked up Alex "Pig Rifle" Durinka in the off-season.
7. Neumann (8-1-2) Weird ties but beat WCU. Heard they actually have a goalie this year. Also, have LA Pama Cyclones jerseys which always helps.
8.Long Beach State (5-2-1) Won it all last year. Forgot the specifics but they are the 2nd best team out there.
9. North Texas (5-0-0) Close wins and big wins in a weak region. Unimpressed last year at Nattys.
10. Bethal (6-2-0) From what I hear everybody hates them. They lost 2 in the beginning and won 6 straight.
HM. Hostra (7-3-1) Probably the best goaltending in the east. Play hard and smart, stars are reaching full potential.
HM. Central Florida (8-6-0) Came up to the east region. Won the games they should have, game two "top 10" good games.

[Ducks9758]

Im sorry danglsauce i would have to disagree with this list entirely. Plus there are a few errors to add. Have you watched any of these teams ?

[danglsauce]

Like i said, the list is way off due to lack of inter-region. I guess im going by the Billy Beane sabrematics theory. I have seen UCF and all the east teams on this list besides Neumann. If i'm so wrong, feel free to correct me. I merely did it as a discussion point since I don't have a formula and most people have only seen one conference. . We could have every team submit a vote for 10 top teams every month to figure it out.

[MasonHockey]

I think IRC officially stopped March 9,2010 http://ircnationalrankings.blogspot.com/
Personally, part of the problem with those rankings were that it took previous years into account, which didn't work well for George Mason, and now Bethel, neither of them existed 4 years ago...

Anyway, UCF has been inconsistent all season, but they do deserve an Honorable Mention because they can play with the best.

With all due respect to Bethel, who gets a lot of attention good and bad, I think it's clear the best team in the SECRHL D1, right now is East Carolina University. If you use the zoom in IE or Mozilla to view the attachment at 125 to 150% I think you will see that ECU has to be in the discussion.The February inter-regional in Chantilly, VA (outside Washington DC) of East Carolina U, George Mason U, NC State vs West Chester, Neumann, Rowan, and Temple should be a show http://secrhl.org/schedule.php?event_id=1353

You can see a more detailed explanation of this graphic in the SECRHL 2011-2012 thread.

[hockeyguy18]

I agree with both of u somewhat, I have seen many teams this year from all over and Ive seen many teams last yr from all over so I feel i have a decent idea of what it should look like right now...

1. Is easy, Lindenwood. They dominate every year and I know everyone was shocked when they lost last yr. There so well rounded.
2.UCSB - have an extremely tough division and they are still on top of it. also having prob the best player in the NCRHA in Travis Noe helps a lot.
3. West Chester - this is where I disagree with dangl slightly. I think WC is the best team in the east. They get points from EVERYONE and the goaltender is better than ppl think.
4. Long Beach State - Raining Champs, plays in the toughest Div in my opinion w/ UCSB and there loses are to a good UNLV team and UCSB which I have as #2.
5. Michigan State - been a tough team in recent yrs, good wins over Michigan and Ohio state (two nationals teams last yr) I like them here until their beaten.
6/7. I really cant decide here between Neumann and Stony Brook. Yes it would be easy to say Neumann bc they beat SB but SB has some good wins and has only lost once this year. They beat Towson 10-1 who Neumann Tied. Oh and SB has 3 of the top 5 pts scorers this yr so Im going to keep these two teams together for now.
8. Ohio State - good nationals team last yr, beat some decent teams this yr only two loses are to Michigan State who i have at #5 so I like em here.
9/10. Bethel and UNT I havnt seen either teams play this yr. I saw both play last yr and these teams just havnt beaten anyone worth mentioning and until they do I would say they should be lucky to even be considered on this list.

You may not like the list but I think its a good one taking into account who each team played and how they played the tough teams. You cant look at a teams record bc that can be decieving. Correct me where u think im wrong. Oh and I dont have UCF here bc i dont see how u can put an 8-6 team on the top in the nation, just doesnt make sense to me.

[danglsauce]

Long Beach should be higher you're right. And I'm sticking by Stony Brook is better. I think if refs let them play Stony Brook will win. If they don't West Chester will take over on Powerplays.

[hockeyguy18]

hah yea that is very true I might agree with that somewhat. Ive watched SB twice this yr they do play very physical and when the refs let them play they are tough to beat. Which also made me go back and look at some numbers. SB's special teams is among the top in the nation. In PP they are 3rd (48.8%) behind UCSB (50%) and LBS (51.9%); and in PK they are 2nd (92.6%) only to UCSB (100%) and SB has had almost 3x the amount of man down situations (UCSB-10, SB-27) so maybe SB plays physical bc they know they can handle the PK.

Thats also something I have noticed the east teams like WC, West Point, SB, Hofstra, etc etc all play pretty physical. Whereas the West teams are more speedy I think thats also why east teams didnt do AS well as some might have thought they would last yr at nationals (huge rink, refs called it a lot tighter). Will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the end.

[Mustangs]

1. Lindenwood - Very strong team, especially with the Cali boys putting up a lot of points.
2. UCSB - Play a great team game and have one of the best players in the country with Noe.
3. West Chester - Led by a really strong offensive core.
4. Long Beach - Returning almost their entire National Championship team and have great goaltending. Only losses to a good UNLV team and UCSB.
5. Michigan State - Seem to be pretty dominate in the Midwest. Solid goaltending.
6. Neumann - Seems like they can put up a lot of points and have only lost to West Chester.
7. East Carolina - Maybe a little trouble with consistency, but have wins against two solid teams in Bethel and GMU.
8. Stony Brook - Sounds like a solid team that gets in some penalty trouble.
9. North Texas - Blow past every team in their division, but struggle with Texas. Could be a bust, but it's hard to pass up an undefeated team.
10. Cal Poly - Obviously a little bias on this one, but only have a close loss to UCSB and a loss to Long Beach. Also, returning the #2 goal scorer from last season for the second half.

Honorable Mention
Ohio State - Sounds like the midwest might be a little weak.

Bethel - Definitely up there, but it looks like they have had a pretty easy schedule so far. I think it'll come down to Bethel and East Carolina in the SECRHL.

Central Florida - I don't think you can put an 8-6 team in the top 10 in the country.

Hofstra - I think they need to beat one of the other top ECRHA teams to get in the top 10.

Just my 2-cents. Thanks for starting up this discussion.

[ilovecollege]

--no way should north texas be in there. the schl is such a joke.
--ive seen bethel play a couple times and they aren't that impressive. at the beginning of the year they lost to illinois. i bet they make it to nationals, but i have no doubt they will get rocked by any other team in ecrha, great plains or wcrhl.
--i can't really speak on the other conferences, but as far as the secrhl is concerned, every team is pretty even. its hard to get a good reading on that conference right now.
--i don't think you can even give UCF a look at the top 10 right now. 3 of their 8 wins came against tampa, who has 4 skaters and is just playing in 1 tournament. still, they always seem to just take it easy until regionals and then turn it on. but as of now they dont look that good imo. they also lost to d2 florida.
--all i can say is i am glad i don't play in D1 WCRHL. that **** cray.

[hockeykid12]

1. Lindenwood - Very strong team, especially with the Cali boys putting up a lot of points.
2. UCSB - Play a great team game and have one of the best players in the country with Noe.
3. West Chester - Led by a really strong offensive core.
4. Long Beach - Returning almost their entire National Championship team and have great goaltending. Only losses to a good UNLV team and UCSB.
5. Michigan State - Seem to be pretty dominate in the Midwest. Solid goaltending.
6. Neumann - Seems like they can put up a lot of points and have only lost to West Chester.
7. East Carolina - Maybe a little trouble with consistency, but have wins against two solid teams in Bethel and GMU.
8. Stony Brook - Sounds like a solid team that gets in some penalty trouble.
9. North Texas - Blow past every team in their division, but struggle with Texas. Could be a bust, but it's hard to pass up an undefeated team.
10. Cal Poly - Obviously a little bias on this one, but only have a close loss to UCSB and a loss to Long Beach. Also, returning the #2 goal scorer from last season for the second half.

Honorable Mention
Ohio State - Sounds like the midwest might be a little weak.

Bethel - Definitely up there, but it looks like they have had a pretty easy schedule so far. I think it'll come down to Bethel and East Carolina in the SECRHL.

Central Florida - I don't think you can put an 8-6 team in the top 10 in the country.

Hofstra - I think they need to beat one of the other top ECRHA teams to get in the top 10.

Just my 2-cents. Thanks for starting up this discussion.

i think mustang has it pretty well on point..

SB has had a bit of an easy schedule as well, towson game was weird i think towson goalie was suspended that game and they rolled with a scrub. and bulk of there games have been against there division, which isn't that strong. still a solid team.

[Sbu31]

Long Beach should be higher you're right. And I'm sticking by Stony Brook is better. I think if refs let them play Stony Brook will win. If they don't West Chester will take over on Powerplays.


side note to this...

SBU sh opp - 27 pk. 92.6% pp 48.8%

West chester sh opp - 33 pk 81.8% pp 38.3%


Compared to the west we take penalties. Compared to the east, it's not as bad as it seems. Personally I think it will be a good game that can go either way. It all depends on who comes out to play just like any other game in this league.

[hockeykid12]

WCU is the most rounded team in the east, whether its a tightly called game or a free game, they will beat you in every aspect.

when do you play them? all-star weekend?

i think it'll be surprising if you hang with them.

best of luck

[Ducks9758]

I agree with hockeykid12, i dont think SBU stands a chance against WCU. Even it being a discussion blows my mind. I've seen these two teams play in preseason and WCU wiped up on them.

[hockeykid12]

I think the top 3 teams in the east are,

WCU
Neumann
Hofstra

I say hofstra cause yeah there record could be a little stronger, but they are a very fast team and have an outstanding goalie in net

[hockeyguy18]

Those are some stong words fellas. Looks I put WC ahead of SB in my standings so obviously ppl know where i stand, but to say a team has NO chance? See that I 100% disagree with. I have seen both teams play multiple times this yr. And as far as there "meeting" it was PRESEASON which means absolutely nothing. To say SB who is 9-1 has NO chance when WC lost to a Junior College team that SB beat easily. I mean come on...I truley believe SB has the best chance out of any team in the east to beat WC and I think if they played 10 times SB would win 4 and WC would win 6. Thats how close I think they are.

We all know about WC maybe getting there goalie back but who knows if SB or any other team is bringin anyone in 2nd semester either so lets wait a while b4 we say a team has NO chance. Bc we see it every tournament where a team who shouldnt win ends up winning. Lets not give WC the title yet and let the season play out.

[hockeykid12]

in no way is anyone giving wc the title, they are favored thou as we all know... to say SB has the best chacne to win? I'm going to disagree there, I'm gonna say neumann proved that they are the most ready to beat them, especially if they can get youmans back

[hockeyguy18]

I respect that, wc is favored and i agree with u that they are the #1 team in the east right now. But im just curious what you top 10 teams are?

[hockeykid12]

in the east or the league?

[NUHockey72]

especially if they can get youmans back

Youmans since he played and was paid for it overseas won't be playing for Neumann or any other team in the NCRHA due to eligibility standards.

I) A student-athlete shall not be eligible for participation in the NCRHA if the individual
received pay for participation in the sports of roller hockey or ice hockey. Student
athletes who have played ice hockey professionally, including Major Junior A hockey
(OHL, WHL, QMJHL), shall not be eligible for competition in the NCRHA.

a) In the context of this rule, pay shall be defined as receiving compensation (monetary
or otherwise) in excess of the sum total of the cost of uniform, equipment and
travel/practice/game expenses.

b) In the event of a challenge upon eligibility under this rule, players who have
participated in professional or semi-professional roller hockey leagues must submit
documentation indicating that pay was not received by said player.

[hockeykid12]

People talk, things are heard, i hear its not exactly set in stone he won't be playing. so lets not jump to conclusions Nuhockey... More things go on then public see.

[NUHockey72]

I work with the ECRHA so I think I've got a pretty good grasp on it. I would be floored if Neumann got Youmans to play unless he could prove he was never paid beyond the cost for his equipment/jerseys.

[hockeykid12]

I'm aware u do.

[hockeyguy18]

hockeykid12, I curious to see ur top in the nation and in the east i wanna see where u put the east guys and where they are in the nation so i mean if u dont mind im just curious to see wat u think.

[joshbaily22]

hockeyguy18, i dont see how you can say SB can hang with West Chester when they got rocked 10-2. Neumann is by far the 2nd the best team and West Chester is a league above them. My top 5 in the east would be:

1. West Chester - best overall team
2. Neumann - a lot of fire power and good goaltending
3. Hofstra - good goaltending along with solid team play
4. UConn - with the addition of DaSilva and Tomczyk there going to be a force
5. Stony Brook - have some scoring but i have concerns regarding them