Secrhl 2011-2012

[GMU18]

Who's going to be surprise? Who's gonna take it?

[coastalrang]

Coastal Carolina

[ilovecollege]

but in all seriousness. coastal carolina if they had their rink. is it going to be done by the first tournament? inf not it might be rough for coastal to get some full team practices.

[coastalrang]

Yeah we have a rink right now...been skating/working out as a team all semester. Our main rink is almost ready as well.

[hockeyfan123]

Heard coastal landed some impressive freshman...

[coastalrang]

Yeah we got some real impressive new guys, along with none of last years players graduating yet...should be a great competitive season for CCU and the rest of the secrhl.

[Hockeyguy22]

What happened to FAU. Why did KSU move back down to D2 they had good team last year

[Hockeyguy22]

And now it looks like Miami is out. Whats going on?

[BEEZERAL]

And now it looks like Miami is out. Whats going on?

Not with the team anymore, but I believe the new Ice hockey team at UM cannibalized the roller team

[MasonHockey]

Not with the team anymore, but I believe the new Ice hockey team at UM cannibalized the roller team

Wow! That's too bad after your D2 championship, but what a way to go out. I hope you guys return at some point.
Good luck to you and your program.

[Hockeyguy22]

predictions for opening weekend.

[BEEZERAL]

Wow! That's too bad after your D2 championship, but what a way to go out. I hope you guys return at some point.
Good luck to you and your program.

It was the end of the road for me regardless, but I wish they would have attempted to defend the title.

[ECUHockey]

What happened to Tampa this weekend? They are off the schedule. Are they still playing this year?

[MasonHockey]

What happened to Tampa this weekend? They are off the schedule. Are they still playing this year?
They are probably trying to recruit more bodies. There roster only has about 5 guys on it. Jeff Kotcher graduated as did Rowan Porter.

[ECUHockey]

Well, since the opening weekend is finally over, what are everyones thoughts about DI, DII, and B?

[DanglinKnight22]

Bethel and NC State were surprisingly average. Both got blown out in a few games and Bethel's B team is not very good.
GMU had up and down weekend wuth big wins against bethel and FGC, but a real bad game against UCF
Both of UCF teams looked real good all weekend and should be strong all year again.
ECU was by far the most impressive team (DI and B) this weekend, only loss to whats going to be a real good CCU DI team when they get their rink.
Speaking of CCU, their DI team man-handled ECU after first period to hand ECU only loss of weekend which was impressive
CCU B team looked real good other than against ECU, and an unreal tie game (IMO best game of weekend) against UCF in which CCU B Goalie was unreal, don't know who he is but hes going to be awesome
Kennesaw is going to dominate DII

[Hockeyguy22]

Yeah not having a rink does hurt us(CCU). Its kinda hard to work on alot when you are practicing in warehouse that is 35 by 55 with poles and tarps/fence/net for boards. Our B goalie has only been playing in net for 5 months and was very impressive. All that said D1 should be wide open this year alot of great teams across the board. Should be fun.

[Hockeyguy22]

Kennesaw should be D1...

[ilovecollege]

yeah if you were to remove kennessaw from d2, the entire d2 is completely a level playing field. that would leave florida as the top team, who tied UNCC, and UNCC tied USC. USC lost to fsu who lost to UNCC.

In other words, any team can beat any team. Except kennessaw.

[hockeyfan123]

I think my buddy is playing at CCU or tampa we wanted him at Lindenwood but he went down to either school I forget which he said but he said his team looked good but he wasnt playing the first tourny.

[GMU18]

I thought game play was pretty even throughout the tournament. It was nice to see there is no one team which is going to run away with it.
I was impressed with ECU and thought Bethel was a big disappointment. I know everyone can have a bad game (us vs UCF) but it really just felt like they weren't on the same level as the other teams we played. Regardless this is going to be a great competitive year.

[MasonHockey]

I admittedly have too much time... and think about the SECRHL too much :)

I put together this (color test) to show a few things.
The concept of the color test is that if you read from left to right the results will "rank" the teams based on their own performance, by having the red losses be on the bottom left and the green wins on the top right.
Here are some obvious problems (it doesn't take into account different rosters (ie Connor Cafferty only playing 1/2 the games for UCF)
Nor does it take into account B teams that start hot, then get depleted by having to pull B guys up to their top team (ECU B last year)
Nor does it account for early morning games which are sloppy and often result in upsets (South Carolina's win and tie were at 9am)
With apologies to USF and VT B I omitted the Affiliates as you never know what you are going to get from them. I also didn't count any out of division games. (B vs D2) or (D1 vs D2)
The goal is to help "rank" teams...

1. Obviously the "color test" works better for the B division and the D2 division where there are less "upsets" (Clearly ECU B and UCF B are the class of that division)
There really weren't any "upsets" with the exception of GMU B who beat Bethel B in their first game of the year, when it was unclear where some of the players stood. (D1 or B)

2. In D1, it shows that ECU is clearly #1, and that UCF and GMU have been relativeley inconsistent. However, if you basically "threw out" the CCU win over ECU and the UCF win over GMU it aligns fairly well, with the red on the bottom and green on the top. I think it also shows that the talent differential in D1 is fairly close and that it is very competitive, that the "bottom" team is capable of beating the top, but over the course of a season certain teams like Bethel are better than CCU based on common opponents ... Should be an interesting regional..

3. In D2, it shows what we kind of knew already, Kennesaw is clearly the top team followed by Florida, NC Charlotte, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Georgia College may have a 3-3 record but can't compete with the top teams. Florida State has played the easiest schedule of any D2 team, but ranks higher than GCSU due to higher win differential against South Carolina and GT (two common opponents). It also shows South Carolina is capable of being competitive with NC Charlotte and VT (both 9am games) but hasn't played 3 of the top 5 D2 SECRHL teams.

4. In B, it's pretty clear who is better than who. Once again this shows the differential in talent between the teams is pretty clear cut, unlike D1 or the #3 - #5 teams in D2.

The goal of this for me was to spark some new discussion based on facts. This is not a "my opinion" ranking but feel free to add your 2 cents. (Note: You will probably need to use the Zoom feature of IE or Firefox and Zoom in to about 125% or 150%)

[MasonHockey]

I updated the (color test) to spark some new discussion based on facts. This is not a "my opinion" ranking but feel free to add your 2 cents. (Note: You will probably need to use the Zoom feature of IE or Firefox and Zoom in to about 125% or 150%)


The concept of the color test is that if you read from left to right the results will "rank" the teams based on their own performance, by having the red losses be on the bottom left and the green wins on the top right.
Here are some obvious problems :
1. it doesn't take into account different rosters (ie Connor Cafferty only playing 1/2 the games for UCF, Bethel minus Stonestelie)
2. Nor does it take into account B teams that start hot, then get depleted by having to pull B guys up to their top team (ECU B last year)
3. Nor does it account for early morning games which are sloppy and often result in upsets (South Carolina's win and tie were at 9am)

With apologies to USF and VT B I omitted the Affiliates as you never know what you are going to get from them. I also didn't count any out of division games. (B vs D2) or (D1 vs D2)

The goal is to help "rank" teams... (Note as far as I know in-Division league record percentage is used for ranking Regionals)

1. Obviously the "color test" works better for the B division and the D2 division where there are less "upsets" (Clearly ECU B and UCF B are the class of that division)
There really weren't any "upsets" with the exception of GMU B who beat Bethel B in their first game of the year, when it was unclear where some of the players stood. (D1 or B)

2. In D1, it shows that ECU is clearly #1. However, if you basically "threw out" the CCU win over ECU and the UCF win over GMU it aligns fairly well, with the red on the bottom and green on the top. I think it also shows that the talent differential in D1 is fairly close and that it is very competitive, that the "bottom" team is capable of beating the top, but over the course of a season certain teams like Bethel are better than CCU based on common opponents ... Should be an interesting regional.. Also, it's interesting to point out that Bethel's two SECRHL divisional losses were without one of their top players Cole Stonestellie.

3. In D2, it shows what we kind of knew already, Kennesaw is clearly the top team followed by Florida, NC Charlotte, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Georgia College may have a 3-3 record but can't compete with the top teams. The Feb 11th South Carolina event should help separate the 2nd through 6th teams of as

4. In B, it's pretty clear who is better than who. Once again this shows the differential in talent between the teams is pretty clear cut, unlike D1 or the #3 - #5 teams in D2.

[RhodyDlenz]

Mason, that's a solid breakdown right there......well done.
WE (URI) are excited to come down to Charlotte this weekend and see what the SECRHL is all about.
We are driving down Thursday night and should be there sometime Friday morning......then leaving after the 4 game marathon on Saturday......gotta make it back for the Superbowl!
We are staying at the Sleep Inn North Lake.....anyone else staying there?

[ilovecollege]

any word on how regionals is going to be set up this year for d1,d2 and im assuming a b division this year?

[Bthumme]

Did something happen to Kennesaw? We beat them with 6 skaters when they came up to Cincy, and Central was able to do so as well.

[ilovecollege]

Did something happen to Kennesaw? We beat them with 6 skaters when they came up to Cincy, and Central was able to do so as well.

they must have not had their full team. we played them this past weekend and they had about 10-12 skaters.

[Bthumme]

they must have not had their full team. we played them this past weekend and they had about 10-12 skaters.


I meant we had 6 skaters, KSU had about 12 and 2 goalies.

[ilovecollege]

I meant we had 6 skaters, KSU had about 12 and 2 goalies.

oh ok. well i know they have been streaky all season. i play for usc, and we lost to them 6-5. we had the lead with 2 minutes left too. then ksu turned around and beat ccu D1 5-3. (CCU D1 beat us 11-1)

so im not sure if you caught them on a good or bad game.

[Bthumme]

Yeah, that's one of the things about college hockey, there are good and bad games, and good and bad periods. Very Streaky game, but I don't need to state that. I just wish we would have gotten to play in an inter-regional to see how we would fare, but I'm sure the rest can be said for a lot of teams.

[David rye]

Definitely "streaky" - and there are always factors that influence: travel, players available (injury or game suspension), games/day, goalies etc...etc...vis a vis the above referenced. KSU comfortably out shot and I would say outplayed CMU and lost 7-6 on a penalty shot. vis a vis Ft Myers weekend - only 10 skaters went with 2 of top scorers not there - vis a vis WMU - well, 3 rd game of the day vs. 2nd for WMU (with a 6-7 hour break between games), one player out (suspended), #1 goalie harboring a groin pull from CMU game. Similar story for SC - 3rd game in a day vs. 2nd for SC - 3 power play goals against (only 9 given up in 17 games all year)----etc....bottom line is KSU is just fine---thank you.....

D. Rye
KSU headcoach

[MasonHockey]

I updated the (color test) to spark some new discussion based on facts. This is not a "my opinion" ranking but feel free to add your 2 cents. (Note: You will probably need to use the Zoom feature of IE or Firefox and Zoom in to about 125% or 150%)


The concept of the color test is that if you read from left to right the results will "rank" the teams based on their own performance, by having the red losses be on the bottom left and the green wins on the top right.
Here are some obvious problems :
1. it doesn't take into account different rosters (ie Connor Cafferty only playing 1/2 the games for UCF, Bethel minus Stonestelie)
2. Nor does it take into account B teams that start hot, then get depleted by having to pull B guys up to their top team (ECU B last year)
3. Nor does it account for early morning games which are sloppy and often result in upsets (South Carolina's win and tie were at 9am)

With apologies to USF and VT B I omitted the Affiliates as you never know what you are going to get from them. I also didn't count any out of division games. (B vs D2) or (D1 vs D2) (Rhode Island vs the SECRHL does count)

The goal is to help "rank" teams... (Note as far as I know in-Division league record percentage is used for ranking Regionals)

1. Obviously the "color test" works better for the B division and the D2 division where there are less "upsets" (Clearly ECU B and UCF B are the class of that division)
There really weren't any "upsets" with the exception of GMU B who beat Bethel B in their first game of the year, when it was unclear where some of the players stood. (D1 or B)

2. In D1, it shows that Bethel is clearly #1 now. I think it also shows that the talent differential in D1 is fairly close and that it is very competitive, but over the course of a season certain teams like Bethel are better than CCU based on common opponents ... Should be an interesting regional.. Also, it's interesting to point out that Bethel's two SECRHL divisional losses were without one of their top players Cole Stonestellie.

3. In D2, it shows what we kind of knew already, Kennesaw is clearly the top team followed by Florida, NC Charlotte, Virginia Tech, and JMU. Georgia College may have a 3-3 record but can't compete with the top teams. The Feb 11th South Carolina event should help separate the 2nd through 6th teams of as

[aElliott15]

Why is nobody talking about UF? They are leading the SECRHL in DII and have some impressive wins, most notably over UCF DI. They have been fairly consistent all season but nobody seems to talk much about them

[ilovecollege]

Why is nobody talking about UF? They are leading the SECRHL in DII and have some impressive wins, most notably over UCF DI. They have been fairly consistent all season but nobody seems to talk much about them

because there's nothing to talk about. they are dominating d2.

[coastalrang]

So uh, any chance theres a D1 team dropping out of regionals?

[GMU18]

So uh, any chance theres a D1 team dropping out of regionals?


Doubtful, I know we are attending.

[MasonHockey]

13481347I updated the (color test) to spark some new discussion based on facts. This is not a "my opinion" ranking but feel free to add your 2 cents. (Note: You will probably need to use the Zoom feature of IE or Firefox and Zoom in to about 125% or 150%)


The concept of the color test is that if you read from left to right the results will "rank" the teams based on their own performance, by having the red losses be on the bottom left and the green wins on the top right.
Here are some obvious problems :
1. it doesn't take into account different rosters (ie Connor Cafferty only playing 1/2 the games for UCF, Bethel minus Stonestelie)
2. Nor does it take into account B teams that start hot, then get depleted by having to pull B guys up to their top team (ECU B last year)
3. Nor does it account for early morning games which are sloppy and often result in upsets (South Carolina's win and tie were at 9am)

With apologies to USF and VT B I omitted the Affiliates as you never know what you are going to get from them. I also didn't count any out of division games. (B vs D2) or (D1 vs D2) (Rhode Island vs the SECRHL does count)

The goal is to help "rank" teams... (Note as far as I know in-Division league record percentage is used for ranking Regionals)

What has changed since the last rankings:
D1
In D1,
1. Bethel is clearly #1 now in the SECHRL. Bethel beat ECU (5-3 and 9-1) and GMU (won 6-5) on the same weekend two weeks ago. Clearly the losses to ECU and GMU early without Cole Stonestellie changed the result. Bethel is guaranteed the top seed.

2. ECU is currently "ranked" 2nd but stands #3 in the SECRHL standings as the playoff tiebreakers are winning percentage, Points and Wins. GMU and ECU are tied in pctg and points but GMU has more wins. ECU appears to be trending the wrong way losing twice to Bethel and then tying Coastal Carolina. How Coastal Carolina beat and tied ECU will remains a mystery to me.

3. GMU is # 3 in the rankings but stands as the second seed currently going into this weekend's inter-regional. The team appears to be improving with some player additions and better health. GMU struggled with NC State splitting a pair of 5-4 games in October but won 11-4 two weeks ago.

4. Florida Gulf Coast is ranked 4th as a direct result of their 7-3 win over NC State in October. They have played a lot of games against an inconsistent UCF team.

5. NC State is currently 5th but could very well be 6th by the end of the weekend. NC state beat UCF 8-2 in October, but lost to Florida Gulf Coast 7-3 the same weekend. Both of those games are coming up big now. NC State remains a scary 5 or 6 seed due to their wins and ties with ECU and GMU. Which team shows up this weekend and at Regionals?

6. UCF was last year's 5 seed and ended up losing the first game at Regionals to Kennesaw and then ended up beating Kennesaw, NC State, Tampa, and GMU to win Regionals. History could repeat itself for this inconsistent team that beat GMU 11-4 but lost to NC STATE, Coastal Carolina and twice to FGCU.

7. Coastal Carolina - for a brand new D1 program it did well, and has a lot of depth on the B team. They were able to beat and Tie ECU, beat UCF and Tied NC State. Hindsight being 20/20 they probably should have gone D2 this year and had a "successful year" . Then again it probably would have smoked most of the D2 teams.

In D2, :
1. Kennesaw is clearly the top team and will play at "home" for Regionals, which has always helped them. They did Tie VT and FSU so an upset isn't out of the question.

2. Florida is clearly the #2 team with the only blemish being a 4-1 loss to Kennesaw.

3. NC Charlotte is the #3 team winning the games they should have won showing the ability to tie Florida. While they did beat VT 2 games out of 3, the fact they lost to them 6-3, and tied SC and JMU shows they are vulnerable.

4. Virginia Tech is clearly a top 4 team and beat #5 seed 9-3 so in my opinion, there is a big gap between the top 4 seeds and the 5-8 seeds at Regionals.

5. Georgia College State University- They rank 5th but could be seeded 6th depending on this weekend with VT & JMU. The closest they came to beating a top team was a 6 goal loss, losing 9-3 a few times. However, Regionals is played in their state and they are clearly better than South Carolina which they beat 3 times and beat FSU, GT, and MTSU. This is a pretty weak #5 seed.

6. FSU lost to GCSU 6-5 earlier in the year otherwise they would "rank" higher. However, given that FSU tied both Kennesaw and VT they are a dangerous potential 4-6 seed.

7 South Carolina- Great group of guys who could upset a 3rd or 4th seed NC Charlotte and VT but probably will not be a major factor. Very disappointing year in that they lost to GCSU three times and FSU twice, showing that those programs are clearly above SC's. SC has three wins and two came against winless Middle Tennesse State Univ.

8. Georgia Tech- Tied SC and beat JMU and MTSU... Otherwise they couldn't play a competitive game vs the top 3 or FSU... Did Tie GCSU and lost to VT by 1... They are a "bubble" team in terms of making regionals, depending on how JMU does this week and if they decide to attend Regionals, which they haven't typically done in the past.

9. JMU- Fell from #5 to 9th after a dismal weekend. Losing to GT might be their demise... Personally I think they are better than GT and SC (who they never played) as JMU beat GCSU and VT and tied NC-Charlotte and only lost by 1 to Kennesaw. However this team is clearly going the wrong way after last weekend and historically chooses not to attend regionals even when being a 5 seed.

10. MTSU thanks for playing, you were 0-11. Sad considering they were a D1 team two years ago with near .500 record.

[rockstar88]

[QUOTE=coastalrang;70030]So uh, any chance theres a D1 team dropping out of regionals?

I think the questioned that needs answering is just how many D1 conference games makes a team eligible for regionals. A team like FGCU seems to come up short. Other than opening weekend in Snelliville that didn't leave Florida. Is that fair?

[teedeezee]

FGCU played the required amount of games, and usually doesnt have to leave Florida except for the opening event. There is usually an event in Lake Worth but the event was cancelled because of lack of teams. The lack of Florida teams this year really messed up the scheduling in FL.

[MasonHockey]

[QUOTE=coastalrang;70030]So uh, any chance theres a D1 team dropping out of regionals?

I think the questioned that needs answering is just how many D1 conference games makes a team eligible for regionals. A team like FGCU seems to come up short. Other than opening weekend in Snelliville that didn't leave Florida. Is that fair?

They played the required number of games in their conference. (It was set lower a while ago so that teams like GMU or ECU could go play in inter-regionals held in Pittsburgh or Tampa and UCF played in ECRHA events near Long Island in November, in lieu of playing a SECRHL hosted 4th or 5th event)

Whether it's "fair" or not is debatable, but I think most everyone who has been around a while and knows the history of the league is ok with it. NC State had essentially two "home" events in Apex and Charlotte so they didn't have to travel "far". Kennessaw gets to play three times at Snellville including regionals, and theoretically wouldn't have to travel "far" if they didn't want, but they choose to do so because they are a good program. The SECRHL is becoming a much better League now with more competitive teams than even 3 or 4 years ago. One of the "historical" issues with the league is that we are so geographically large with teams stretching as North as Washington DC (George Mason University) as historically south as Miami Florida (or UCF, or Tampa, Or Florida Gulf Coast) as east as Eastern Carolina U and now as West as WESTERN Tennessee (Bethel). That area is HUGE! Last year in the SECRHL D1 there were only 5 teams and quite frankly it kind of stunk to have to play the same teams over and over. D2 last year only had 9 non-florida teams, which is why teams like ECU and GMU went to Mount Pleasant, PA to take part in the ECRHA inter-Regional and teams like Tampa went to Old Bethpage NY to play teams from outside the SECRHL. THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY MOST TEAMS PROBABLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FORCING FGCU TO TRAVEL (it's not like they can go south :) ) I know GMU considered leaving for the ECRHA for travel a few years ago, but ended up staying because they liked the comraderie of a majority of the SECRHL teams vs. the ECRHA which didn't seem to us as friendly or fun. Travel costs will always be an issue for this league unless it grows large enough to essentially have a "northern conference" ECU, NC State, George Mason, Virginia Tech, JMU, NC Charlotte,and a "Southern" conference of UCF, FGCU, Coastal Carolina, Kennnesaw, Florida, FSU etc. and mix in the or develop a western conference of Tennessee teams. Teams continue will come and go including powerhouses like Tampa, Florida Atlantic and Elon mainly due to lack of player availability, recruiting, and travel costs. Hopefully the growth of the B teams which there are essentially 8 of if you include VT will help programs stay afloat for a while. I know GMU is thinking it might have to go D2 in 2 years when essentially everyone of their current D1 guys graduates. Unfortunately most of our "recruits" or new additions have been non-freshmen transfers which don't have a full 4 years to keep the D1 team going. However, the guys on their B team will be at GMU for 3 more years beyond this year, so we are hopeful they will keep the program afloat so that the program doesn' disappear like some of the ones mentioned earlier.

When looking at FGCU this year, you have to consider that D2 National Champion Miami took everyone by surprise when they decided to fold and be an ice team at the last minute, Tampa literally self-destructed after graduating 2 of their top players and only had 5 skaters and a goalie, and FAU never got their act together. Those should have all been decent D1 teams.

The league will always be more of a flexible league. If you look, most of the "top talent" from the league comes from the "northern" states or Florida. Tampa's teams featured NY boys. Bethel recruits canadians to play for them. Coastal Carolina's goalie is from NY and some of their better players are from Jersey. NC State and ECU have home grown talent from a talent rich Raleigh NC. Bottom line is the SECRHL teams don't have the luxury of a plethora of players to choose from with deep hockey backgrounds like the Northern teams. We all get our "homegrown" players from either about 7 different rinks The Box, Apex, Snellville, Colombia, and the rinks in Florida or they are ice hockey converts.

[uncchockey96]

In FGCU's defense I think the only reason Tampa even travelled to Bethpage is because the majority of them are from Long Island to begin with, but I do understand where you are coming from.

[Missionhockey12]

True Story.. Out of 12 players we had about 8 that lived in the immediate area of Skate Safe. My brother Brett started the UT Roller Team in 06. From then on we "recruited" players from the Long Island area. Mainly from travel hockey and the Island Wide Roller Hockey League based out of Skate Safe. Bottom line is people WANT to continue to play their favorite sport especially in a school like the University of Tampa where the girls are running around in bikinis and the weather is incredible. Why wouldn't you want to come to a school that offers all this? Regardless of all that, it was easy to make an early thanksgiving break trip to Skate Safe and play a few games in front of our "home fans" and family. I think every D1 team should travel and play out of region tournaments. Clearly money is certainly an issue but it only gives you a fair outlook on how you will end up at Nationals.

Miss the league..
Jeff Kotcher
University of Tampa #12

[DanglinKnight22]

Mason,
What do you see as far as B division goes? Is UCF gonna win it easily or does ECU, CCU or Bethel have a chance?

[ECUHockey]

Why wouldn't they? Both ECU and CCU tied UCF B (ECU gave up a 2 goal lead with minutes to
go). With a couple of roster additions for ECU (an additional Goalie and a Defenseman) and CCU as well, I can't see why either doesn't have a chance. Should be a great regional event. Looking forward to it.

[William Bourque]

Don't want to derail this discussion, but I will be heading down to DC this weekend to check out the action for the ECRHA. While there I will be partaking in one of our new features, a live blog of the games. http://secrhl.org/article.php?article_id=55046

Should be a good time, make sure you stop in and check it out.

[MasonHockey]

Mason,
What do you see as far as B division goes? Is UCF gonna win it easily or does ECU, CCU or Bethel have a chance?


Why wouldn't they? Both ECU and CCU tied UCF B (ECU gave up a 2 goal lead with minutes to
go). With a couple of roster additions for ECU (an additional Goalie and a Defenseman) and CCU as well, I can't see why either doesn't have a chance. Should be a great regional event. Looking forward to it.

I agree with ECU it's anybody's game... my only "change" would be to only include top 3 or 4 B teams... Clearly GMU B and JMU B are outclassed and stand 6th or 7th. FGCU B stands a solid 5th and with Bethel B 4th with the ability to surprise in one game with Austin Comperry playing a majority of the game. It would be cool to see some type of Double-elimination or Best of three game championship for B with less teams.