View Full Version : 2012 Nationals at the Beach?
LBHOCKEY
06-13-2011, 02:43 PM
The Rinks at Huntington Beach Inline (Home of the NCRHA Divison 1 National Champion Long Beach State 49ers) is in the process of adding a third (larger) rink in preparation for JO's in July. I think it would be a great place to hold the 2012 NCRHA Nationals. Many of the people I have talked to across the country have told me that they would love to come to beautiful Southern California for Nationals.
Bill Burrows
Long Beach State Roller Hockey
"2011 NCRHA Divison 1 Champions"
MasonHockey
06-13-2011, 03:23 PM
Been there done that in 2010 in San Jose, CA... Considering most of the teams in the NCRHA are in the East, I'd like to see it in the Eastern Time Zone. I think it is the East's turn, considering the West had it in 2010, Midwest (MCRHL) had it in 2010-2011. Travel is a big expense to these so it seems to me it is only fair to move it around every year.
ECUHockey
06-13-2011, 05:50 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing it in St. Louis or Ft. Myers this year. Supposedly Lindenwood just built a rink for their teams.
kevinsmithAZ
06-13-2011, 08:16 PM
I think the NCRHA does a good job of moving Nationals around. It would, however, be cool to have some sort of poll/survey/input to Nationals locations on a year-to-year basis.
EX: What attractions would you like near you?
You can have the tournament in almost any region and have a beach, a themepark, or whatever.
BEEZERAL
06-13-2011, 10:45 PM
I think the NCRHA does a good job of moving Nationals around. It would, however, be cool to have some sort of poll/survey/input to Nationals locations on a year-to-year basis.
EX: What attractions would you like near you?
You can have the tournament in almost any region and have a beach, a themepark, or whatever.
Disney world would have been ideal but they just sold all of their stuff to host a hockey tournament. Ft myers causes an issue because it would be very expensive to travel to. You would either have to fly into ft lauderdale and rent a car or fly into ft myers which is very expensive. Lake worth presents similar problems.
In my opinion snellville, ga is not a suitable location even with the close proximity to Atlanta airport. While the rinks are solid, the locker rooms cant fit a team of 8 year olds, let alone college students.
If the ncrha is willing to make teams spend a lot on travel, then ft. Myers should be the location in the next year or 2.
ilovecollege
06-14-2011, 08:49 AM
does the ncrha own any of their own flooring for rinks?
GoRangrHky
06-14-2011, 10:01 AM
JetBlue flies to Fort Myers, right? Not that they are dirt cheap any more, but you can usually get a decent deal there. What's Skatium like? Is it multiple roller rinks, or would they have to lay down a surface?
MBurke
06-14-2011, 10:34 AM
does the ncrha own any of their own flooring for rinks?
No. Currently NCRHA needs to rent floors.
JetBlue flies to Fort Myers, right? Not that they are dirt cheap any more, but you can usually get a decent deal there. What's Skatium like? Is it multiple roller rinks, or would they have to lay down a surface?
I know Southwest flies into KRSW as well. If I remember correctly from last time I was down there, Skatium has one roller surface and one ice surface.
Bthumme
06-14-2011, 01:10 PM
I think the NCRHA does a good job of moving Nationals around. It would, however, be cool to have some sort of poll/survey/input to Nationals locations on a year-to-year basis.
EX: What attractions would you like near you?
You can have the tournament in almost any region and have a beach, a themepark, or whatever.
Attractions I'd like to see/have near me:
Girls in bikinis by water. (indoor pools don't count)
So...Madison and Chicago during late-winter don't count. Nor does the NE.
BEEZERAL
06-14-2011, 03:59 PM
No. Currently NCRHA needs to rent floors.
I know Southwest flies into KRSW as well. If I remember correctly from last time I was down there, Skatium has one roller surface and one ice surface.
Germaine arena would be the ideal choice if you chose ft. Myers. If the league rents a surface how much more would it cost to rent boards and host the tournament in disney's wide world of sports. While it would be a high rental fee hosting nationals at Disney opens up a multitude of possibilities. Has the league ever considered this option?
MBurke
06-14-2011, 05:00 PM
Germaine arena would be the ideal choice if you chose ft. Myers. If the league rents a surface how much more would it cost to rent boards and host the tournament in disney's wide world of sports. While it would be a high rental fee hosting nationals at Disney opens up a multitude of possibilities. Has the league ever considered this option?
Just as a ballpark estimate, renting two floors with boards for the event would run on the order of $30k with shipping. This wouldn't include any costs incurred to rent or staff the facility.
GoRangrHky
06-14-2011, 11:09 PM
The problem with Germain is that the ECHL season is still going on in April. You'd have to work it around that obviously, and a 7 day rental is tough for that.
Disney seemed to do little for the AIHL, to the point where they didn't want to have it back this year (Disney didn't want it, that is). What Disney looks for is events that bring in lots of families- youth tournaments do that, not as much with adults. The rental fees aside, they want you to buy tickets to the theme parks. Seeing how much the guys around here complain about the costs of things as it is, I find it hard to believe that there'd be a lot of spending on $90 a day tickets for Disney World. Disney is 100% about making money. I'd be afraid of making it a one and done, so maybe that's something in the 5-10 year range.
I'm not saying that either of these should be out of the question, but there's a lot more to it than simply throwing down some rinks and going at it. I'm fine with the traditional inline facilities for now, so long as it sticks with the better ones.
wednthavddr
06-15-2011, 02:10 PM
Disney also charges a spectator fee to get in which is not cheap. Add that to the NCRHA fee and you are probably around $40 a day to just watch.
Bthumme
06-15-2011, 09:30 PM
Somewhere around here there was something about Myrtle Beach?
Canada would be fun too, but I realize the logistics would never pan out.
Airtran flies into Fort Meyers, they are really cheap.
ilovecollege
06-16-2011, 08:43 PM
i think i made the comment about myrtle beach. they have an outdoor rink..haha. i was joking. its a nice facility and serves its purpose but i don't even know if you would want to host a tourney in south carolina...most people down here don't know what hockey is. they all thought vancouver was rioting over soccer hahaha.
kevinsmithAZ
06-19-2011, 12:05 AM
i think i made the comment about myrtle beach. they have an outdoor rink..haha. i was joking. its a nice facility and serves its purpose but i don't even know if you would want to host a tourney in south carolina...most people down here don't know what hockey is. they all thought vancouver was rioting over soccer hahaha.
nothing wrong with hosting the tournament in a region where hockey isn't popular. If marketed correctly, the tournament (along with some Learn-to-Play clinics during it) could grow hockey (or roller specifically) in an area it's not really known in.
2011 was near Madison, but I wonder how many UW kids actually came to watch.. kids that would wanna put a team together potentially.
I spent the week in a town in Maryland with a population of less than 100,000. The town had an outdoor roller rink and an indoor ice arena with two sheets of ice. This is the kind of place that has opportunities to play hockey all around, yet I doubt many kids even know about it (or play). If the NCRHA picked a smaller community for Nationals, it could completely change the way a town looks at the game we play and could grow it exponentially.
LstLineOfDfense
06-24-2011, 04:13 AM
nothing wrong with hosting the tournament in a region where hockey isn't popular. If marketed correctly, the tournament (along with some Learn-to-Play clinics during it) could grow hockey (or roller specifically) in an area it's not really known in.
2011 was near Madison, but I wonder how many UW kids actually came to watch.. kids that would wanna put a team together potentially.
I spent the week in a town in Maryland with a population of less than 100,000. The town had an outdoor roller rink and an indoor ice arena with two sheets of ice. This is the kind of place that has opportunities to play hockey all around, yet I doubt many kids even know about it (or play). If the NCRHA picked a smaller community for Nationals, it could completely change the way a town looks at the game we play and could grow it exponentially.
I'll tell you how many. Exactly 0. The event was fairly well run, save for the rink issues... however, for all the talk of how the event was marketed on the radio, and many tickets were sold to locals... I saw NOONE in the stands all tourney long that wasn't with one of the teams. Not one damn person.
danglsauce
08-01-2011, 03:33 PM
Buffalo! TORHS Nationals was there in 08. They have 4 rinks so they could keep 1 or 2 rinks open for ice while we are there. Meeting rooms, pro shops big locker rooms, restaurant inside the rink, showers, scoreboards that work. Theres at least 4 hotels less than a mile from the rink(A marriot for the big spenders and a red roof for economical types)
Downtown has the Sabres, and a AAA baseball team. And dont forget the wings!!! The city is noticably bigger that Madison and the Hockey Hall of Fame is only an only an hour and a half up the road. Normally the monday after Nationals the floor is down for the Buffalo Wings League anyway.
All the east, midwest, great plains and even some SE teams could drive. And flights normally arent too bad!
Hockey Coach
08-12-2011, 09:42 PM
It's looking like Fla, Fort Myers or Utah Salt Lake City.
ECUHockey
08-12-2011, 09:54 PM
It's looking like Fla, Fort Myers or Utah Salt Lake City.
Utah huh? Do you have sources for this information or is it purely speculation?
MBurke
08-12-2011, 10:13 PM
Final stages of booking both 2012 and 2013 - both will be announced at the same time and I would expect that prior to the start of the season (next 3-6 weeks).
Can't comment on locations until everything is done but feel free to speculate all you want :)
Safiya Brown
08-15-2011, 03:53 AM
I watch complete 2012 Nationals at the Beach event.
I really very enjoyed it. There was a great crowd has come to watch this event.
PureHockey111
08-18-2011, 02:52 AM
Is Taylor Sportsplex still going strong up in Michigan? that was one hell of a facility, stadium seating on one of the rinks too. of course it is michigan...
danglsauce
08-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Is Taylor Sportsplex still going strong up in Michigan? that was one hell of a facility, stadium seating on one of the rinks too. of course it is michigan...
If this were facebook I would like it.
FGCU_Hockey
08-27-2011, 01:56 AM
Germain Arena would be pretty clutch ;]
ECUHockey
10-25-2011, 11:39 PM
So, has anyone heard anything else about the nationals spot this year?
teedeezee
10-27-2011, 01:01 PM
Salt Lake City
Bthumme
11-28-2011, 09:32 PM
Any updates?
I'm really hoping for Cali. Salt Lake City is nice, and flights are super cheap, but the interest in people there is really low, and not to mention it's not the most exciting of places (I was there on a school conference two years ago)
teedeezee
11-30-2011, 09:25 PM
Yes, I just said Salt Lake. It's in Salt Lake.
Phefinheste
12-05-2011, 11:55 AM
What do you mean?
hockeyguy18
12-06-2011, 09:29 PM
The league hasnt released any statements about where nationals will be heald this yr so nothing is 100%. Personally although Salt Lake City sounds like it would be a fun time for me and my guys. I hope that its some place warmer like FLA or CA. And since theres some much talk about FL, i think overall it would be beneficial for the league to do it there over Salt Lake City. And that idea about Disney sounds great and all but theres too many variables that kind of stuff takes a FULL year or two to plan and iron out the details. Couple yrs ago it was in San Jose, CA and I gotta say it was A LOT of fun, wouldnt mind goin back there.
Bthumme
12-13-2011, 08:01 PM
It official - Salt Lake City April 11-16
teedeezee
12-14-2011, 01:06 PM
sooooo like i said 2 months ago, Salt Lake City.
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