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GMU18
04-11-2011, 02:34 PM
It looks like the SECRHL DI will have 9 teams next year including
-Tampa
-GMU
-NCSU
-UCF
-KSU
-ECU
-Bethel
-Miami
-FGCU
Should be a good year of competition!
Any of these teams losing or gaining players? I know that mason's team will be similar to last year, keeping the same core of guys.
MasonHockey
04-11-2011, 02:44 PM
You forgot Coastal Carolina University is also going to be a D1 team
NUHockey72
04-11-2011, 02:46 PM
It looks like the SECRHL DI will have 9 teams next year including
-Tampa
-GMU
-NCSU
-UCF
-KSU
-ECU
-Bethel
-Miami
-FGCU
Should be a good year of competition!
Any of these teams losing or gaining players? I know that mason's team will be similar to last year, keeping the same core of guys.
Looks like i picked a good year to start looking at grad schools in the SECRHL.
ECUHockey
04-11-2011, 04:35 PM
We will be picking up 2 new players for next year.
BEEZERAL
04-11-2011, 04:44 PM
Depending on grad school issues we lose from 1-3 players going into next season including myself. But we never know what we will get from the freshman class or from transfer students.
teedeezee
04-11-2011, 05:30 PM
FGCU does not lose anyone....and im sure we will have more guys coming in now that we have shown we have something good started.....should be a good year next year.
FWKRTJ
04-11-2011, 09:49 PM
Someone said that if you go to Nationals in D2 this season you are required to move to D1? Did anyone else hear that?
ECUHockey
04-11-2011, 09:59 PM
That is true. DII SECRHL is going to be the weakest division in DII next year IMO. Everyone besides Florida is being forced to move up.
MBurke
04-11-2011, 10:25 PM
Someone said that if you go to Nationals in D2 this season you are required to move to D1? Did anyone else hear that?
Not true. Getting a bid to nationals only means you're automatically reviewed by the NCRHA over the summer - it does NOT mean you're forced to move to DI. Don't take last year's amount of forced teams as an indicator of what percentage / number of teams that might be. Last year was the first year so it involved a lot of "cleaning house" - I would expect a much smaller number of teams to be bumped this year, though I've heard that quite a few are looking to make the move without any prompting.
MasonHockey
04-11-2011, 10:37 PM
Not true. Getting a bid to nationals only means you're automatically reviewed by the NCRHA over the summer - it does NOT mean you're forced to move to DI. Don't take last year's amount of forced teams as an indicator of what percentage / number of teams that might be. Last year was the first year so it involved a lot of "cleaning house" - I would expect a much smaller number of teams to be bumped this year, though I've heard that quite a few are looking to make the move without any prompting.
That might be true Burke but the SECRHL D1 is gaining 6 teams! an over 100% increase in D1. JR and Ed have already sent out the schedule with the teams moving up. JMU, VT, and Florida should romp in SECHRL D2 next year. D1 should be wide open
BEEZERAL
04-12-2011, 01:37 PM
That might be true Burke but the SECRHL D1 is gaining 6 teams! an over 100% increase in D1. JR and Ed have already sent out the schedule with the teams moving up. JMU, VT, and Florida should romp in SECHRL D2 next year. D1 should be wide open
And I love the expansion. The stronger DI becomes, the stronger the NCRHA becomes. Keep moving teams up while expaning Nationals. If all the good teams are in DI, you could have an amazing 30-40 team tournament where every game is competitive
FWKRTJ
04-12-2011, 02:44 PM
Yea, there's no way Ball State could move up. We're losing 4 of our 9 players (although we are retaining our top two scorers).
PureHockey111
04-20-2011, 03:36 PM
ill be interested to see how the DII teams fare moving up, i know last year tampa and gmu took top seeds as being first year DI teams. i think this will be the closest DI conference, edging out the east who usually has the top to bottom most even conference. any predictions for who is gonna win it? i would say mason but i heard they have trouble in closing out overtime games :/
ilovecollege
04-20-2011, 07:32 PM
i would say the usual tamp, ucf, gmu are at the top...
as for the best of the new teams. as hard as it is for me to say, and as much as i hate them, i gotta go with bethel. it would be hard not to considering they return their whole team and will have so much practice time and such.
ECUHockey
04-20-2011, 08:50 PM
i would say the usual tamp, ucf, gmu are at the top...
as for the best of the new teams. as hard as it is for me to say, and as much as i hate them, i gotta go with bethel. it would be hard not to considering they return their whole team and will have so much practice time and such.
I dont know if I can agree with you ilovecollege. Tampa is losing Kotcher, Porter, and a couple other guys so that will hurt their firepower. I believe UCF is losing Cafferty as well. Anyone could come out on top. Bethel is going to have problems with only 4 solid players (they are losing a guy). Deep benches win games. Unless they sign new players. But hey, just my $.02
Should be a competitive year. Looking forward to it.
PureHockey111
04-21-2011, 12:38 AM
i gotta agree with ecuhockey here a little, with tampa losing firepower they will still be in the hunt but more in the middle of the pack. i see ecu rising up and possibly miami if they can fortify a season that reflects their post season play (STOP TAKING PENALTIES!). mason will be at the top and look for ucf to do well without cafferty even there, he barely even played in the final game and they still put up two impressive games. this is how i see the teams faring out.
1. GMU
2. ECU
3. UCF
4. Bethel
5. Tampa
6. FGCU
7. Miami
8. NCSU
9. KSU
bethel could be up higher or lower depending how many people they buy, but having only 4 guys isnt too bad is it? have you met mason :) and i know people took offense for some reason last time these predictions were stapled out at the beginning of the season... so this is me saying these predictions are a direct threat and attempt to demean every other team. just kidding.... any other predictions?
MasonHockey
04-21-2011, 02:24 PM
i gotta agree with ecuhockey here a little, with tampa losing firepower they will still be in the hunt but more in the middle of the pack. i see ecu rising up and possibly miami if they can fortify a season that reflects their post season play (STOP TAKING PENALTIES!). mason will be at the top and look for ucf to do well without cafferty even there, he barely even played in the final game and they still put up two impressive games. this is how i see the teams faring out.
1. GMU
2. ECU
3. UCF
4. Bethel
5. Tampa
6. FGCU
7. Miami
8. NCSU
9. KSU
bethel could be up higher or lower depending how many people they buy, but having only 4 guys isnt too bad is it? have you met mason :) and i know people took offense for some reason last time these predictions were stapled out at the beginning of the season... so this is me saying these predictions are a direct threat and attempt to demean every other team. just kidding.... any other predictions?
Here are my predictions-
1 Bethel - As this year's Freshmen mature they will be a better team. Bethel's creating a B team so the top players will get more time, instead of having to share time. School funded rink on campus, practice time, and funds make it difficult not to pick them as favorite. They beat GMU, NC State, Miami x2, FGCU, ECU, etc.
2. ECU - Gaining two players and had a great season this year. Will be hungrier and deeper next year. B team players helped at end of year.
3. UCF - Cam's right they beat GMU without Cafferty playing much. UCF has amazing B team that will keep feeding talent to them.
4. GMU - Returns all the top guys for their Junior year. B team is not yielding any help.
5. Miami - Returns everyone and won all of D2. Still they lost to GMU in opening weekend this year, and considering no additions to both teams Miami ranks a solid 5
6. CCU - Coastal Carolina looked like a solid team this year with "older" experienced players with several years of college left in them. I believe they will be a nice surprise but won't be able to surpass Miami.
7. Tampa- Losing a ton, but still have their goalie and Cameron Rowan. A shadow of their former selves. The largest problem I see is that there is no B team and most of their players are from NY, so it's not like they are recruiting locally like UCF, ECU, GMU, Miami, Etc... They realistically could be the worst team in SECHRL D1 next year. Which might be tough for their attitudes to take.
8 FGCU- I think this team could surprise and be in the top 5. I just don't know enough about them and haven't seen them a lot so I rate them here based on not being as good as ECU Miami, and Bethel this year.
9 KSU - This team is an enigma. They were the only team to beat UCF D1 in Regionals. Then again they were the #5 seed. They lose Coach Schneider, Rick Schneider, and possibly their top scorer, Mathew Schmidt, who has spent 4 years in college, not sure if he is returning. They do have a solid B team though, so I don't expect them to be bad. Pretty much the same level as this year. Unfortunately the teams they are adding will probably be slightly better.
10. NCSU - this team loses BOTH GOALIES!!! All world Goalie Colosimo to the 5 year rule and Child was a senior. To make it worse we heard Beason wasn't taking a full couseload there by Regionals (he was hurt anyway). If they have Beason and an average goalie this team jumps in rankings. If they don't find an adequate goalie and lose Beason... it's going to be tough.
Hockeyguy22
04-21-2011, 07:44 PM
Do not count out CCU to turn some heads. We are returing everyone with the addition of a B team so instead of having 13 guys on the bench we will only have our top 10. 45% of our goals against were on penalties and with the 3 junior Ice Hockey players we have they were still adapting to the change from ice to inline. We have had a few guys join the club after the season including another who played piha in NJ. I have been communicating with several freshman who also have very impressive resumes. One of our top players was only eligible for 1 tournament and he will be back next year. that plus in MY opinion oneof the best goalies in the league we are going to be a very tough team. We only had 3 guys including our goalie who had played mostly inline before, everyone else played ice and last year was geared towards making the transition, one of the reasons we were affiliates and not full time. We are expecting around 40 players at tryouts next year, based on returning players and interest recieved. We have guys already working out we are still practicing and picking up tournaments in offseason to keep things moving forward. We are looking forward to a great year.
ECUHockey
04-21-2011, 08:38 PM
Do not count out CCU to turn some heads. We are returing everyone with the addition of a B team so instead of having 13 guys on the bench we will only have our top 10. 45% of our goals against were on penalties and with the 3 junior Ice Hockey players we have they were still adapting to the change from ice to inline. We have had a few guys join the club after the season including another who played piha in NJ. I have been communicating with several freshman who also have very impressive resumes. One of our top players was only eligible for 1 tournament and he will be back next year. that plus in MY opinion oneof the best goalies in the league we are going to be a very tough team. We only had 3 guys including our goalie who had played mostly inline before, everyone else played ice and last year was geared towards making the transition, one of the reasons we were affiliates and not full time. We are expecting around 40 players at tryouts next year, based on returning players and interest recieved. We have guys already working out we are still practicing and picking up tournaments in offseason to keep things moving forward. We are looking forward to a great year.
Good to hear CCU. I think its tough to make rankings this early. I don't think anyone was necessarily "counting you guys out", especially after watching you all play last year.
AAA 91
04-22-2011, 12:54 AM
Bethel has recruited jimmy carter from victoria bc canada.1989 born player.plays for mens team canada team and scored big points last year in sweden.Same type of player as josh foote.Will score big points next year.Huge pick-up for bethel
hockeykid12
04-22-2011, 10:56 AM
Big names do not mean big wins, if that was the case lindenwood would never lose... I say it'll take bethel atlesst 2 more years before they make a strong push. Maybe when all these new
Players actually play together and gel they'll be a good team until then they will be just a name that recruits
teedeezee
04-22-2011, 12:07 PM
these rankings and predictions are likely to be wayyyyy off......so much changes in a year especially in roller hockey and in club sports in general...the best team one year could lose no one and be the worst the next year.....or a terrible team can bring in 2 kids that turn the whole program around.....the fact that half of D1 next year is coming up from DII mkes it even more difficult to predict.....
MasonHockey
04-23-2011, 04:08 PM
these rankings and predictions are likely to be wayyyyy off......so much changes in a year especially in roller hockey and in club sports in general...the best team one year could lose no one and be the worst the next year.....or a terrible team can bring in 2 kids that turn the whole program around.....the fact that half of D1 next year is coming up from DII mkes it even more difficult to predict.....
I think everyone here has been around a while enough to know what you say is true. The point of the prediction is for fun, not to humiliate or boast. That said what are your predictions for next year.
BEEZERAL
04-23-2011, 04:34 PM
Bethel has recruited jimmy carter from victoria bc canada.1989 born player.plays for mens team canada team and scored big points last year in sweden.Same type of player as josh foote.Will score big points next year.Huge pick-up for bethel
we have heard this story before
Mustangs
04-23-2011, 07:31 PM
Bethel is a joke.
GoRangrHky
04-23-2011, 11:46 PM
Like they said, one player really doesn't make you an automatic winner. We had Team USA players on our team in the past, and couldn't get past the Sweet 16 in DII (although DII was significantly stronger back then). It's still a team game.
BEEZERAL
04-24-2011, 12:04 AM
Bethel is a joke.
you better watch out. all the bethel fans will start posting again and come after you
ilovecollege
04-24-2011, 12:06 AM
you better watch out. all the bethel fans will start posting again and come after you
and in the process make themselves and their school sound like a complete joke.
coastalrang
04-24-2011, 12:38 AM
What's with all the hate on Bethel? We (CCU) have played them twice. And yeah, during the game we hate them with a passion, and Im sure they hate us. But thats the sign of a good hockey game. After the game, we have nothing but respect for them. The team/school relationship is something we should all want if we ever want to legitimize the sport.
To go on message boards and post that they are a joke, when they have school support like we all wish they had, seems a little jealous to me. I dont get it.
ECUHockey
04-24-2011, 01:41 AM
You didn't hear the things the parents were saying to opposing players at nationals. Or just the sheer obnoxiousness of the fans. It was embarrassing.
LstLineOfDfense
04-24-2011, 05:22 AM
CCU has one thing going for them that very few teams, if any, will be able to match in SECRHL. Andrew Marino.
PureHockey111
04-24-2011, 05:04 PM
I think the two biggest things to look for at the SECRHL opening event will be CCU's improvement and first year as a non affiliate. also bethel with their improvement as well because we all know they wont be getting worse. i still dont think either team will have enough firepower to take regionals but i could be wrong. its gonna be weird without tampa being the heavy favorite. but that could help them keeping them in the dark until regionals like ucf.
I_<3_benders
06-06-2011, 12:07 AM
Coastalrang.. I believe you are right ALOT of the hatred towards Bethel stems from jealousy! As far as what ECUhockey has to say, that is simply more jealousy. A program and a school can not be held responsible for "EVERYTHING" a "fan" says! That being said, I was at nationals watching the Bethel vs Pitt game and a Bethel player took a cheap shot from a Pitt player and laid there hurting and I witnessed an ECU fan (I know because she was wearing an ECU t-shirt), say "ha ha that was Josh poor little cry baby, I hope he is hurt".... and you want to talk about someone else's fans! Come on buddy, but like I said your program nor school can control everything that comes out of a "fans" mouth!! As far as having annoying fans, you must have missed Slippery Rocks fans, equally as "annoying"!! No reason to be jealous because a team has a cheering section!
cruejonesisrad
06-06-2011, 05:12 PM
I_<3_benders...... I am also on the bethel team, please do not waste your time trying to post on this forum lol. It's real name should be bethelbashcentral. And besides it's just never gonna work out for the best, other teams are going to hate other teams. It's just not worth wasting your time to try and change these people's minds.
Bthumme
06-06-2011, 09:32 PM
Yea, there's no way Ball State could move up. We're losing 4 of our 9 players (although we are retaining our top two scorers).
Yeah, at least you guys got a win at nationals, I think we finished -25 in points, I'm not gonna look it up. But we'd get smoked at D1.
BEEZERAL
06-07-2011, 08:05 PM
I_<3_benders...... I am also on the bethel team, please do not waste your time trying to post on this forum lol. It's real name should be bethelbashcentral. And besides it's just never gonna work out for the best, other teams are going to hate other teams. It's just not worth wasting your time to try and change these people's minds.
I think you know why this is bethel bash central. A few key players made fools of themselves on rink and on this forum. They are the reasons nobody likes your team, and you know this. As long as those guys continue to embarrass themselves and bethel, the opinion of your team wont change any time soon.
Coastalrang.. I believe you are right ALOT of the hatred towards Bethel stems from jealousy! As far as what ECUhockey has to say, that is simply more jealousy. A program and a school can not be held responsible for "EVERYTHING" a "fan" says! That being said, I was at nationals watching the Bethel vs Pitt game and a Bethel player took a cheap shot from a Pitt player and laid there hurting and I witnessed an ECU fan (I know because she was wearing an ECU t-shirt), say "ha ha that was Josh poor little cry baby, I hope he is hurt".... and you want to talk about someone else's fans! Come on buddy, but like I said your program nor school can control everything that comes out of a "fans" mouth!! As far as having annoying fans, you must have missed Slippery Rocks fans, equally as "annoying"!! No reason to be jealous because a team has a cheering section!
If this was the NHL you could claim to not be held responsible for your fans. But those fans are also your players parents, they should know better. And I'm not jealous at all of bethel. I just graduated from the 47th best academic institute in the country and I get to look at a big National Championship trophy every night.
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 02:24 PM
How do you come off saying "your" parents? I never said i play for Bethel! I know people who do play for them though, and lets not be fooled ever since opening weekend ALOT of the teams were running there mouths to them (chirping) the whole game about their scholarships! So lets be honest here, ALOT of kids are jealous that they were not recruited to get a scholarship to play and they are coming out of pocket to play! Last time i checked this was a free country and everyone has a freedom of speech, and NO a program cannot control everything a parent says. But answer me this, if a ref thinks a parent is antagonizing and out of control can he not give the team a misconduct and throw the parent out of the establishment?? I will answer that for you, YES!! By the way congratulations on the National title (boastful much though?), and good thing graduated because in my opinion i think that Miami will struggle tremendously in D-I in the SECRHL.... oh and last thing, about those "key players" that made fools of themselves on the rink and on this forum?? Your team started fights with these "key players" trying to get them thrown out, which yall did get in there heads (thats all part of hockey). As far as these "key players" making a fool of themselves on here, i know those players and none of them even have an account on here, good try though buddy!!
BEEZERAL
06-08-2011, 02:37 PM
How do you come off saying "your" parents? I never said i play for Bethel! I know people who do play for them though, and lets not be fooled ever since opening weekend ALOT of the teams were running there mouths to them (chirping) the whole game about their scholarships! So lets be honest here, ALOT of kids are jealous that they were not recruited to get a scholarship to play and they are coming out of pocket to play! Last time i checked this was a free country and everyone has a freedom of speech, and NO a program cannot control everything a parent says. But answer me this, if a ref thinks a parent is antagonizing and out of control can he not give the team a misconduct and throw the parent out of the establishment?? I will answer that for you, YES!! By the way congratulations on the National title (boastful much though?), and good thing graduated because in my opinion i think that Miami will struggle tremendously in D-I in the SECRHL.... oh and last thing, about those "key players" that made fools of themselves on the rink and on this forum?? Your team started fights with these "key players" trying to get them thrown out, which yall did get in there heads (thats all part of hockey). As far as these "key players" making a fool of themselves on here, i know those players and none of them even have an account on here, good try though buddy!!
Revisionist history is nice. Didn't know that foote taking a cheap shot at our smallest player who finished the season with less than 10 penalty minutes constituted us starting a fight. He got lucky that one of our hot heads took the bait and swung back, but foote was clearly the instigator. The only other incident that we can be blamed for is Shuman stupidly trying to dig the puck out of the goalie chest and knocking him over. It was an idiotic play that our entire bench felt was stupid.
I could start mentioning all the cheap shots that bethel took but they are all already posted. it's people like you that gave bethel a bad name whether you are involved with the team or not.
Say what you want about my team. We may have acted like idiots at certain points last year, but when almost every team at Nattys took the time to say we are a classy team, it shows something about our guys. I dare you to find one other team who respects bethel's team. With the amount of support bethel is getting and the recruiting out of Canada, they will continue to be a strong team. But being a good team won't earn them a shred of respect until they start playing with class and their parents learn to keep their mouthes shut.
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 02:55 PM
Your posts never seem to amaze me lol.... no one hates your team because yall are so dirty, they just simply say that if you all kept your heads yall would be alot better! It's all apart of hockey, you can whine and complain and make up all the excuses that you want but like i said before, hockey is an intense game and stuff is going to happen! That being said no one should hate another team because they are intense and play with passion hahaha.. Your comments are hilarious though and you never seize to amaze me so please continue replying lol!!! Oh yeah and people like me that give Bethel a bad name, how?? lol hahahaha by stating facts, your a trip kid!
GoRangrHky
06-08-2011, 03:17 PM
The Canucks may win, but everyone will still think they chomp on fingers. The Heat may win, but the whole planet is still going to hate Lebron. The Yankees may win, and A-Rod is still hated as a liar and a cheater.
You can bring in all the imports you want, win all the trophies you can think of. What is comes down to is that those players are still going to be graduating from unaccredited programs, stuck missing out on a decent college experience at a place that's in the middle of nowhere and seems to take itself a little too seriously, and are still going to have the same hockey prospects the rest of us do upon graduating- men's league for life.
I am happy to come out of college with great experiences playing hockey, some regional titles under my belt, but most importantly with a degree from a B school in the top 15% in the country, and had one of those academic scholarships to boot. Plus I got to live 25 minutes from the greatest city on the planet, and literally (see, literally, not figuratively http://bit.ly/lrNvGk ) across the street from an NHL arena- not McKenzie, Tennessee (go ahead, find it on a map...). Players from our program have gone on to win gold medals for Team USA, players from our program have won AIHL and PIHA national titles.
Teams are going to hate on other teams, but for what reason? I don't think it's a jealousy thing. I have reasons to be jealous of a lot of schools, and getting a scholarship to an unaccredited school in some hick town isn't one of them. There's a difference between being proud of your program's accomplishments and being arrogant for no reason. Schools like Miami and Northeastern have done a lot to develop with what they have, and they are quite proud of it. Others, like Bethel, just go and tell everyone how great they are despite the fact that they haven't actually done anything to deserve it. There's a reason people don't say anything to them, and it has a lot more to do with how they carry themselves than some fake scholarships.
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 03:40 PM
HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!! You my friend are hilarious.... whose to say what a college experience is suppose to compse of?? lol just cause your in a big city don't mean anything, oh congrats your cool lol... McKenzie is only 2 hours from both Memphis and Nashville, and trust me there is plenty to do in those cities!! Maybe if you were better at hockey you could have played for a team and gotten a scholarship for athletics and academic and had a full ride!! I think all this boulderdash that comes from you is just flat foot hilarious!! Congratulations on your programs success, how long have y'all had yall's program?? and how far did your program go there first year?? I think what Bethel is doing is great and alot more schools should hop on board and start helping there student athletes out, it would help grow the NCRHA greatly and not to mention it could possibly get more kids in school... so once again hating a program and demening them for there geographic location just makes you look like the egotistical fool!! but hey I'm not one for name calling and pointing out peoples stupidity and flaws. I think everyone who plays collegiate roller hockey should try and get there schools to offer scholarships and build the NCRHA to its full potential!! oh and that whole thing about PIHA and AIHL woohoo, they aren't getting paid and they aren't playing MLRH!! How can you talk about Bethel taking hockey so seriously?? I mean come on, you all who don't have scholarships have to fundraise and pay for all your equipment and everything, and you pay all that money to go to all the weekends and regionals and Nationals, so your not fooling anyone buddy, it's clear that you and any other team that spends that type of time and money are taking the game seriously!!! haha the nerve of you kid lol... keep replying though you are very humerous in your snide and false remarks lol, you sure are keeping me entertained
GoRangrHky
06-08-2011, 04:29 PM
First off, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their
Second, who's to say I didn't have a full academic ride anyway? You don't know me or my academic situation.
Third, the program I developed is a decade old. We went as far as we possibly could in our first season. Back then (before the NCRHA even existed) we were not eligible for nationals, so we didn't participate, but we won our regional championship.
Most of our schools aren't allowed to offer scholarships for inline hockey because of that small group called the NCAA that they belong to. NAIA schools can basically do whatever they want in terms of scholarship dollars as well as funds provided to sports, NCAA institutions cannot.
Despite the fact that scholarships provided to NCRHA student-athletes are completely against the rules of the league, the NCRHA is supposed to be a CLUB organization. While it is not at its greatest potential, one team with a scholarship program is not going to help it grow. You should be concentrating more of your time on trying to develop an NAIA championship, which Bethel can go play by itself in rather than trying to explain to everyone how a two hour drive to honkytonkville is fun.
Finally, there are NCAA teams out there that fundraise and have players provide some of their own equipment, so to say that some NCRHA organizations have to is really not much of an argument.
But hey, while maybe we're not making the big bucks in the MLRH (is anyone, really?), I'll take my valid degree and just go get a job. Good luck with that pro roller hockey career.
BEEZERAL
06-08-2011, 04:42 PM
First off, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their
Second, who's to say I didn't have a full academic ride anyway? You don't know me or my academic situation.
Third, the program I developed is a decade old. We went as far as we possibly could in our first season. Back then (before the NCRHA even existed) we were not eligible for nationals, so we didn't participate, but we won our regional championship.
Most of our schools aren't allowed to offer scholarships for inline hockey because of that small group called the NCAA that they belong to. NAIA schools can basically do whatever they want in terms of scholarship dollars as well as funds provided to sports, NCAA institutions cannot.
Despite the fact that scholarships provided to NCRHA student-athletes are completely against the rules of the league, the NCRHA is supposed to be a CLUB organization. While it is not at its greatest potential, one team with a scholarship program is not going to help it grow. You should be concentrating more of your time on trying to develop an NAIA championship, which Bethel can go play by itself in rather than trying to explain to everyone how a two hour drive to honkytonkville is fun.
Finally, there are NCAA teams out there that fundraise and have players provide some of their own equipment, so to say that some NCRHA organizations have to is really not much of an argument.
But hey, while maybe we're not making the big bucks in the MLRH (is anyone, really?), I'll take my valid degree and just go get a job. Good luck with that pro roller hockey career.
I was about to type this exact response.
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 04:44 PM
HaHaHa I never said I played in the MLRH, nor am I!!!!! But every time you keep making these ignorant comments you continue to prove my point lol, you are a typical Yankee, and you are doing nothing but amusing me ane keeping me entertained lol!!! That being said, you said you started the program a decade ago, so that makes you what?? at least 28 years old maybe even 30, and you are agreeing with an 18 year old (that makes you seem REAL intelligent and mature lol) get back to work and get off here before you get fired bud!!!!
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 04:48 PM
Beezeral I want your own opinion lol you keep me laughing too!!! You two should be comedians because y'all are funny as hell, and the fact that y'all are getting mad and lashing out at schools and people you don't know on a forum!! hahahaha obviously you two didn't learn respect or how to control your temper at your "NCAA" highly accredited schools lol hahaha, keep showing your stupidity!!!
GoRangrHky
06-08-2011, 04:59 PM
If you're 18, that supposedly makes you an adult, which means that we can have adult conversations about things. Well, I can at least.
To quote a good friend of mine "I'm no yankee- I'm a Red Sock". And no, I'm not 28. Or 30. And at NO point did I agree with you, except that your username is rather apropos, considering your school affiliation. Although something tells me that you meant to say "arguing".
I know plenty about respect, and give it when it is deserved and earned, neither of which fits any of the athletes or fans that I've had the pleasure of conversing with from Bethel.
I_<3_benders
06-08-2011, 05:48 PM
You are not a very nice person sir!! I strongly disagree with your points and views, but this is the USA so I suppose you have the freedom of speech! I'm not arguing with you, I will let you continue to judge a book by it's cover and show your ignorance
hockeykid12
06-08-2011, 07:28 PM
I have never agreed with GoRgerhockey, but he is true with this whole arguement, even beezer is on point. Bethel hasnt earned the right to run there mouths and complain, program is a year old. Lindenwood has the same advantages as Bethel, but they go about business completely different, in all my years with ncrha i havent seen a lot of bad out of Lindenwood.
There is a big difference about people complaining how good a team like lindenwood is and complaining about how embarrassing and immature a team is like bethel. Being talked about here on this forum might give u guys something to laugh at and joke about but in the reality of it, its not the biggest deal, it is just roller hockey. your getting a free education from a eh college, be grateful. Try to go out and play hockey the right way, sure tension will rise, but everythin i have heard and seen about bethel takes it way to far. Sure you guys are all young, but dont disrespect the game and make it into a joke.
atleast earn the right to be j*rk*ffs, one year and one ok appearance at nationals doesnt earn u that right.
cruejonesisrad
06-09-2011, 12:17 AM
I_<3_benders we went through this last season it was fun for a second to stir the pot, but my good sir you need to stop. I'm glade you're proud of being on or a part of the team, but please stop arguing with these guys. I've held some pm with beez he's not bad, goranger is just angery idk lol jk, and we have things as a team we need to work on. Lets not worry about what people are saying on the boards. Post if you want it is a free country, I'm just saying maybe it's not the best idea to keep stirring the pot.
I_<3_benders
06-09-2011, 01:39 AM
it's all good buddy, I am no way shape for or fashion affiliated with the team, I just have a couple of buddies who play on the team... I mean chirping and getting people all worked up is part of the game of hockey lol and I love doing it to people!! Just saying it is hilarious, make no mistake I don't know these guys nor do I know you, but it's all for fun! I'm just pushing buttons with people I mean no harm and I do not dislike any of these guys... It's all cool though buddy, just a hockey forum with a little sh*t talking, no harm no fool!! Bethel does have a great program going and they sound like they have a great future ahead of them, but like i said before hopefully collegiate inline roller hockey will be sanctioned by the NCAA one day and ALOT more schools can offer scholarships, cuz lets be honest if we weren't all college roller hockey players/fans/parents then we wouldn't care to have a screen name on here or even care to reply to threads for that fact!! Anyway hopefully no one got offended, we were all just stating our comments and opinions (I hope no ones feelings got hurt)!!!
BEEZERAL
06-09-2011, 09:34 AM
Unfortunately roller hockey is a long way away from being sanctioned by the NCAA. I doubt it will happen in the next 10 years. The sports popularity has taken a major hit over the past 5-10 years. You won't see roller hockey join the NCAA until NCAA ice hockey gains a much more national appeal. Right now women's softball gets more media coverage than the frozen four.
GoRangrHky
06-09-2011, 10:05 AM
You also won't see it become an NCAA sport unless some women's sport appears out of the woodwork. They're already making cheerleading a competitive sport to balance out football, so the odds of them adding another men's are almost nil for the foreseeable future.
Mlrhnorthfan
06-09-2011, 12:26 PM
Cheerleading just got knocked off the list last summer. A federal judge ruled that it is not a sport. Quinnipiac U. cut the womens Vball team and replaced it with cheerleading to balance out the athlete mix. The vball team sued and won and the judge ruled that cheerleading is not a sport. so for all intensive purposes thats pretty much good law.
There could be hope that there would be a womens NCHRA someday and that would be the best avenue for sanctioning of Roller hockey, bringing in mens and womens at the same time.
In the late 1990's there were about 10 D1 womens Ice programs, now there is something like 45. This shows that it can be done....however, we should all be happy for what we have and try to make it better.
http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2010/07/is_cheerleading_a_sport.html
GoRangrHky
06-09-2011, 12:47 PM
Yes, but it came back as "acrobatics and tumbling" and "stunt", which compares itself but differentiates itself from gymnastics http://athleticbusiness.com/editors/blog/default.aspx?id=530
Bthumme
06-11-2011, 02:03 AM
Sanction Quiddich and it's all good.
Someone get CBS or Fox College Sports on the phone, I think they were showing some college paintball the other day.
kevinsmithAZ
06-11-2011, 09:59 PM
The NCRHA could get on CBSCS or FCS or Versus or wherever if they wanted, but that requires dishing out the $$ involved in a telecast. I'm guessing it isn't cheap.. but would (could) be great exposure for the sport, no doubt.
PureHockey111
06-12-2011, 05:51 PM
rollerhockeytv.net has a really cool thing going, i watched the mlrh championships on it. had interviews, goal cameras, and professional play by play commentators. i think this is a big step and NEEDS to be marketed better, expanded, and hopefully picked up by the ncrha or any other league. i also remember watching the AIHL championships on ESPN 3 online a little while back when they took place last year. some cool stuff being broadcasted but nobody even knows about it. i shouldnt have to strain myself to find these sites. IMO things are looking up for broadcasting but not nearly enough is being done to get the word to the world.
MasonHockey
06-12-2011, 06:23 PM
Here are my predictions-
1 Bethel - As this year's Freshmen mature they will be a better team. Bethel's creating a B team so the top players will get more time, instead of having to share time. School funded rink on campus, practice time, and funds make it difficult not to pick them as favorite. They beat GMU, NC State, Miami x2, FGCU, ECU, etc.
2. ECU - Gaining two players and had a great season this year. Will be hungrier and deeper next year. B team players helped at end of year.
3. UCF - Cam's right they beat GMU without Cafferty playing much. UCF has amazing B team that will keep feeding talent to them.
4. GMU - Returns all the top guys for their Junior year. B team is not yielding any help.
5. Miami - Returns everyone and won all of D2. Still they lost to GMU in opening weekend this year, and considering no additions to both teams Miami ranks a solid 5
6. CCU - Coastal Carolina looked like a solid team this year with "older" experienced players with several years of college left in them. I believe they will be a nice surprise but won't be able to surpass Miami.
7. Tampa- Losing a ton, but still have their goalie and Cameron Rowan. A shadow of their former selves. The largest problem I see is that there is no B team and most of their players are from NY, so it's not like they are recruiting locally like UCF, ECU, GMU, Miami, Etc... They realistically could be the worst team in SECHRL D1 next year. Which might be tough for their attitudes to take.
8 FGCU- I think this team could surprise and be in the top 5. I just don't know enough about them and haven't seen them a lot so I rate them here based on not being as good as ECU Miami, and Bethel this year.
9 KSU - This team is an enigma. They were the only team to beat UCF D1 in Regionals. Then again they were the #5 seed. They lose Coach Schneider, Rick Schneider, and possibly their top scorer, Mathew Schmidt, who has spent 4 years in college, not sure if he is returning. They do have a solid B team though, so I don't expect them to be bad. Pretty much the same level as this year. Unfortunately the teams they are adding will probably be slightly better.
10. NCSU - this team loses BOTH GOALIES!!! All world Goalie Colosimo to the 5 year rule and Child was a senior. To make it worse we heard Beason wasn't taking a full couseload there by Regionals (he was hurt anyway). If they have Beason and an average goalie this team jumps in rankings. If they don't find an adequate goalie and lose Beason... it's going to be tough.
Can we get back to talking hockey. I don't care if it's SECRHL, ECRHA, D1, D2, improving the game or whatever. I don't care about people who try to make this forum about themselves or how great their own team or team they cheer for is... I don't care about the quality of education of school's, or what teams poster's play for or what part of the country you think is better than others! While you might have a point on a different thread, this is a hockey thread... Let that be decided by the results of the games. Boys lets get back to hockey...
Things like schedules, which games you anticipate seeing, interregional games, new recruits, ideas to improve the year.... etc... PLEASE!!!
kevinsmithAZ
06-12-2011, 11:21 PM
rollerhockeytv.net has a really cool thing going, i watched the mlrh championships on it. had interviews, goal cameras, and professional play by play commentators. i think this is a big step and NEEDS to be marketed better, expanded, and hopefully picked up by the ncrha or any other league. i also remember watching the AIHL championships on ESPN 3 online a little while back when they took place last year. some cool stuff being broadcasted but nobody even knows about it. i shouldnt have to strain myself to find these sites. IMO things are looking up for broadcasting but not nearly enough is being done to get the word to the world.
You bring up some really good points man. The technology is accessible and out there, but once we decide to use it how do we make the most of it? How do we use broadcasting to a) increase visibility among existing players and more importantly, b) increase visibility to those who don't even know this exists?
GoRangrHky
06-13-2011, 12:11 AM
Games on the internet are great, but only for the people that really want to see it. What's great about the CBS College Sports/ Alt Games is that there's a great chance that someone is going to stumble across it. Take a look at http://www.cbscollegesports.com/thealtgames/
Also got a chance to watch this on TV the other day http://www.usasevenscci.com/
I'd say that one of the biggest problems facing a broadcast for roller hockey is the design of the facilities. They aren't exactly designed for TV broadcasts, nor would many come across as that presentable when put on TV.
ECUHockey
06-13-2011, 05:44 PM
Coastalrang.. I believe you are right ALOT of the hatred towards Bethel stems from jealousy! As far as what ECUhockey has to say, that is simply more jealousy. A program and a school can not be held responsible for "EVERYTHING" a "fan" says! That being said, I was at nationals watching the Bethel vs Pitt game and a Bethel player took a cheap shot from a Pitt player and laid there hurting and I witnessed an ECU fan (I know because she was wearing an ECU t-shirt), say "ha ha that was Josh poor little cry baby, I hope he is hurt".... and you want to talk about someone else's fans! Come on buddy, but like I said your program nor school can control everything that comes out of a "fans" mouth!! As far as having annoying fans, you must have missed Slippery Rocks fans, equally as "annoying"!! No reason to be jealous because a team has a cheering section!
If this did happen, then I apologize. I don't care what team it is, you NEVER wish injury upon any athlete. I cannot control what everyone says, nor can I listen to every comment.
As far as "jealousy", you can think what you want about that. We have a great time here at ECU. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else :)
-Chris
LstLineOfDfense
06-24-2011, 04:22 AM
Beezeral I want your own opinion lol you keep me laughing too!!! You two should be comedians because y'all are funny as hell, and the fact that y'all are getting mad and lashing out at schools and people you don't know on a forum!! hahahaha obviously you two didn't learn respect or how to control your temper at your "NCAA" highly accredited schools lol hahaha, keep showing your stupidity!!!
What's a "y'all"?
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