SECRHL Regional Finals

[BEEZERAL]

Looks like DII will be determined based on record against DII opponents alone. How does everyone feel about this?

[chickentender65]

It's kind of silly because this could help or kill some teams. Like us (USF), it wouldn't have made a big difference if we went to lake worth last week cause we only wouldve played 1 D2 team and wouldnt have affected our result in going to regionals. we wouldve been 4-4 if we lost the one D2 game we had scheduled and still been above FSU. If the schedule can be made that each team plays the same number of D2 games, then its all good. its just tough to give 15 teams similar schedules so someone would be upset in the end saying "team X played george mason B 6 times and team Y played George mason A 5 times" if the decision was just based on points. So i guess this is the best way to do it. If one team plays bethel and ECU most of the time and another team played WCU and MTS (just basing it off records), who says one team is more deserving cause they beat the weaker teams. idk. i guess this is the right way to do it but there isnt a great way to figure out the top 8 teams.

[BEEZERAL]

It's kind of silly because this could help or kill some teams. Like us (USF), it wouldn't have made a big difference if we went to lake worth last week cause we only wouldve played 1 D2 team and wouldnt have affected our result in going to regionals. we wouldve been 4-4 if we lost the one D2 game we had scheduled and still been above FSU. If the schedule can be made that each team plays the same number of D2 games, then its all good. its just tough to give 15 teams similar schedules so someone would be upset in the end saying "team X played george mason B 6 times and team Y played George mason A 5 times" if the decision was just based on points. So i guess this is the best way to do it. If one team plays bethel and ECU most of the time and another team played WCU and MTS (just basing it off records), who says one team is more deserving cause they beat the weaker teams. idk. i guess this is the right way to do it but there isnt a great way to figure out the top 8 teams.

This really was the only way to do it. The schedules were more unbalanced this year than ever before. Atleast this method guarantees that the best 8 teams in the SECRHL go to regionals and other than JMU getting the 3 seed everyone is seeded pretty accurately.


chickentender, are you guys actually going to come to regionals this year?

[chickentender65]

We have 2 players voting no and 2 players voting yes. So we are waiting on our 5th and final player to get back to me at this moment to make the decision. He is terrible with getting back to me. (yes we only have 5 players. one kid has something to do with ROTC and another kid just flaked out in the middle of the season). We will have a talented 5 if we go. Should know really soon if we are going or not.

[MasonHockey]

I don't know if it makes a difference.... I mean I know D2 teams like to complain and say it makes a difference, and common sense tells you it should, but when you look at the breakdown... I don't think it does. The teams stay the same and the seeding changes very little.

Because FSU failed to beat Georgia Tech despite a 2 goal lead going into the third, and USF not playing in 4 events it's not really much of an issue.
I mean other than seeding, which doesn't look like it changes much the big benefactor is Virginia Tech, moving up in seeding, but the teams stay the same...

The way Regionals is done, I don't know how much seeding matters that much anyway... I'm sure Miami will argue it does after last year, but what are the odds of the #2 team (GMU) and #3 (Kennesaw) team tying again like last year. Which left #4 Miami to have to play Tampa twice. ECU, JMU and VT will all play D2 games this weekend at The Box in Chantilly VA. (Washington DC)

Here are the Overall Standings vs D2 only standings (No affiliate, B or D1 results)
1. Bethel 11-4-1 _______________1 Bethel 8-2
2. FGCU 9-5-2 ________________2 FGCU 7-3-1
3. JMU 8-3-1 ________________3 JMU 7-2 (Still has games in Chantilly)
4. Florida 8-6-2 ________________ 4 VT 6-3-1 (Still has games in Chantilly)
5. ECU 8-4 (Not counting Pitt)___5 Florida 6-2-1
6. Miami 7-7-2 ________________6 ECU 6-1 (still has games in Chantilly )
7. VT 6-4-2________________7 Miami 6-2
8. FSU 6-8-2 ________________8 FSU 4-7-1
9. USF 6-5-1________________9 USF 4-3
10. USC 5-9-2________________10 USC 3-6-2 (Central Division Winner)
11. GCSU 5-10-1_______________11 GCSU 3-7-1
12. MTSU 4-11-1_______________12 GT 2-8-1
13. GT 3-11-2_______________13 MTSU 1-9-1
14. WCU 1-10-1_______________14 WCU 0-8-1

[BEEZERAL]

I believe winning percentage will be used

[MasonHockey]

I believe winning percentage will be used


Still doesn't change anything but seedings, unless VT has a bad weekend...
The top 7 plus central division champ USC are still the same teams. It's all going to come down to the games at Regionals anyway.

1. ECU .857 (6-1) (Still has games left to play)
2. Bethel .800 (8-2)
3. JMU .777 (7-2) (Still has games left)
4. Miami .750 (6-2)
5. Florida .722 (6-2-1)
6. FGCU .681 (7-3-1)
7. VT .650 (6-3-1) (Still has games left)
8. USF .571 (4-3)
9. FSU .375 (4-7-1)
10. USC .364 (3-6-2) (Central Division Champ)

[BEEZERAL]

I don't believe that USC will be offered a bid which IMO is the correct decision

[ilovecollege]

this is a complete joke of a system. i understand what they are trying to do...but if they do it this way they need to take into account the strength of schedule also. some teams played much harder d2 teams than other teams...also, in my personal opinion, a team like usf that doesn't play the total 16 games should not be allowed to regionals. if that was originally stated at the beginning of the season, a team like usc could have opted out of the last tournament and finished with a record of 3-3, instead of following the rules and going 0-3 the final weekend.

[BEEZERAL]

this is a complete joke of a system. i understand what they are trying to do...but if they do it this way they need to take into account the strength of schedule also. some teams played much harder d2 teams than other teams...also, in my personal opinion, a team like usf that doesn't play the total 16 games should not be allowed to regionals. if that was originally stated at the beginning of the season, a team like usc could have opted out of the last tournament and finished with a record of 3-3, instead of following the rules and going 0-3 the final weekend.

I believe the rules only require 12 games played to qualify for regionals and you realize SOS would hurt teams like USC, VT, and JMU

[ECUHockey]

Chickentender, did you all make a decision regarding regionals? Just curious.

[BEEZERAL]

Chickentender, did you all make a decision regarding regionals? Just curious.

That's the question you want answered??? I've been waiting for IloveUSC to post a way of seeding for regionals that would give his team a bid. Why is it that USC always seems to have a poster who thinks that their team is much better than they actually are

[ilovecollege]

sorry to keep you waiting...some of us actually go to college to get an education.

i dont even go to usc...hahaha. nice try. they are just a good example for the system. and to be honest, in my opinion, they dont deserve to go to regionals. they played like garbage this year. i just dont see how it would be fair to let in a team that played 12 games. i didnt realize that you only had to play that many. but hey...speaking of teams that think they are better than they actually are. i specifically remember you saying that Miami was going to win the division and finish ahead of FGCU.

obviously you all "haven't been playing to your potential". i think its time for you to start don't you think?

[BEEZERAL]

sorry to keep you waiting...some of us actually go to college to get an education.

i dont even go to usc...hahaha. nice try. they are just a good example for the system. and to be honest, in my opinion, they dont deserve to go to regionals. they played like garbage this year. i just dont see how it would be fair to let in a team that played 12 games. i didnt realize that you only had to play that many. but hey...speaking of teams that think they are better than they actually are. i specifically remember you saying that Miami was going to win the division and finish ahead of FGCU.

obviously you all "haven't been playing to your potential". i think its time for you to start don't you think?

We underachieved. No doubt. The argument can also be made that we played the hardest schedule of any team in D2 this year. only 2 games against teams not expected to make regionals and 8 games against teams expected to make nationals in their respective divisions. Not many teams played a schedule like that, but then again. We could be sub .500 playing western Carolina and georgia tech all season.

[CSteamer]

That's the question you want answered??? I've been waiting for IloveUSC to post a way of seeding for regionals that would give his team a bid. Why is it that USC always seems to have a poster who thinks that their team is much better than they actually are

Gamecock roller hockey has fallen off, no doubt. But Miami has never done anything either my friend.

[CSteamer]

We have 2 players voting no and 2 players voting yes. So we are waiting on our 5th and final player to get back to me at this moment to make the decision. He is terrible with getting back to me. (yes we only have 5 players. one kid has something to do with ROTC and another kid just flaked out in the middle of the season). We will have a talented 5 if we go. Should know really soon if we are going or not.

Nick, why would you not go to regionals anyways??? I know its a long drive, but you only get a few years to play college roller hockey. I didnt go to regoinals my senior year because I had the SEC ice hockey tourney that same weekend. If I didn't have that tourny I would have still wanted to go to regionals knowing full well we were gonna get crushed. Are Carson and Mikey D voting yes?

[ilovecollege]

Gamecock roller hockey has fallen off, no doubt. But Miami has never done anything either my friend.

never been good since the danny caudy era ended!

[CSteamer]

never been good since the danny caudy era ended!

ehh...his last year wasn't very good either. you seem to be pretty knowledgable about USC. You go there?

[ilovecollege]

yeah. i do. im a freshman. we both used to play at concrete pond back in the day if you are who i think you are. but you wouldn't know me because im a couple years under you.

[CSteamer]

yeah. i do. im a freshman. we both used to play at concrete pond back in the day if you are who i think you are. but you wouldn't know me because im a couple years under you.

Oh ok. Cool. Yea I played in quite a few tournaments at Concrete Pond growing up. But if you are a freshman now than you are probably about 6 years under me. I don't mean to downplay Gamecock roller on here. I know you guys play hard and represent the school well.

[ilovecollege]

hey its all good. we took a huge step forward this year from last year and look to do so in the future. but in the end a lot of us are focused more on school and hockey is an outlet for us. its not our life like a lot of the guys on this forum.

[BEEZERAL]

yeah. i do. im a freshman. we both used to play at concrete pond back in the day if you are who i think you are. but you wouldn't know me because im a couple years under you.

I thought you claimed not to attend USC. lol Also love how you are clearly attempting to call me out by saying this game is my life. Im sorry that I am smart enough to get good grades and have time to screw around on this site instead of paying attention to a boring lecture.

[chickentender65]

Nick, why would you not go to regionals anyways??? I know its a long drive, but you only get a few years to play college roller hockey. I didnt go to regoinals my senior year because I had the SEC ice hockey tourney that same weekend. If I didn't have that tourny I would have still wanted to go to regionals knowing full well we were gonna get crushed. Are Carson and Mikey D voting yes?

We arent going. Carson and Mikey D said no. If we had a 6th player, we would without a doubt be going. We are a pretty descent team when we have our boys there but too many times people bailed out cause of either ice hockey or injuries. So we arent going.

[Missionhockey12]

Nick.. thats upsetting. You and your brother have held that team together over the years and I think its horrible that no one wants to repay you for your hard work and go to regionals. Its not fair to you even with the lack of players.. Wish you made the trip!

As for D2:

I know in Lake Worth our Tampa team saw the OLD UM team. I honestly feel that UM could be the best D2 team on the floor at any given time but they are so hard to predict and often beat themselves. I haven't watched much D2 this year but know UM has a ton of depth if they play within their system and stay focused.

Jeff Kotcher
UT 12

[BEEZERAL]

Nick.. thats upsetting. You and your brother have held that team together over the years and I think its horrible that no one wants to repay you for your hard work and go to regionals. Its not fair to you even with the lack of players.. Wish you made the trip!

As for D2:

I know in Lake Worth our Tampa team saw the OLD UM team. I honestly feel that UM could be the best D2 team on the floor at any given time but they are so hard to predict and often beat themselves. I haven't watched much D2 this year but know UM has a ton of depth if they play within their system and stay focused.

Jeff Kotcher
UT 12

Pretty much sums it up about us. when we play our game I feel like we are a top team in DII. only problem is that we have been so inconsistent this year

[MasonHockey]

I like chances for the guys on Miami but don't sleep on ECU... They have earned a selection to Nationals after their performance against ECHRA teams and top SECRHL teams. It should be a really fun Regional. I predict and ECU vs. Miami Final, with the possibility of Bethel reaching the finals with their goalie who is the best of D2.

Early D1 prediction if Tampa is without #96 Rowan Porter, which I believe they are, NC State wins SECRHL D1... They peaked this weekend.

[Missionhockey12]

Masonhockey.. You are wrong but right. Although Rowan hasn't played with us this semester he is still eligible to play with us. He was scheduled to make the trip from NY to Georgia and play this weekend but had work and couldn't get off.

You'll for sure see number 96 on the rink at nationals in Wisconsin. Believe that

[ECUHockey]

Pools for DII Regionals:

1. ECU
4. UF
6. VT
8. USC

2. BETH
3. UM
5. FGCU
7. FSU

I am surprised with the pools. They did not completely end up like the DII winning percentage settings we were emailed. I also can't see the games being crosspooled for playoffs with the stronger talent in the second pool. At least I hope not or playoffs will be a challenging Sunday for us.

[BEEZERAL]

Pools for DII Regionals:

1. ECU
4. UF
6. VT
8. USC

2. BETH
3. UM
5. FGCU
7. FSU

I am surprised with the pools. They did not completely end up like the DII winning percentage settings we were emailed. I also can't see the games being crosspooled for playoffs with the stronger talent in the second pool. At least I hope not or playoffs will be a challenging Sunday for us.

What happened to JMU?

[MasonHockey]

Still doesn't change anything but seedings, unless VT has a bad weekend...
The top 7 plus central division champ USC are still the same teams. It's all going to come down to the games at Regionals anyway.

1. ECU .857 (6-1) (Still has games left to play)
2. Bethel .800 (8-2)
3. JMU .777 (7-2) (Still has games left)
4. Miami .750 (6-2)
5. Florida .722 (6-2-1)
6. FGCU .681 (7-3-1)
7. VT .650 (6-3-1) (Still has games left)
8. USF .571 (4-3)
9. FSU .375 (4-7-1)
10. USC .364 (3-6-2) (Central Division Champ)


Pools for DII Regionals:

1. ECU
4. UF
6. VT
8. USC

2. BETH
3. UM
5. FGCU
7. FSU

I am surprised with the pools. They did not completely end up like the DII winning percentage settings we were emailed. I also can't see the games being crosspooled for playoffs with the stronger talent in the second pool. At least I hope not or playoffs will be a challenging Sunday for us.

Chris,
As far as winning pct, that looks about right to me. Your games in Pittsburgh didn't count because they were out of region, much like Mason's and Tampa's didn't count. The only inter-regional that counts are ones hosted by the SECRHL (Kuddo's to Tampa or whoever for convincing punching bag Sam Houston State from the SCHL to come to Florida)

I would say you guys received a pretty easy bracket compared to the other. I'm looking forward to seeing Florida for the 1st time. I'm also surprised JMU decided not to come...

Must see games in D2 are
1 Bethel vs. Miami in pool game.
2 Bethel vs FGCU in pool game
3 ECU vs. Florida

My prediction.
ECU 3-0 finishing with 1st seed due to "easier" competition
UF 2-1 finish with 3rd see due to easier competition
VT 1 -2
USC 0-3 finishing 8th seed.

Miami 3-0 finishing with 2nd seed overall
Bethel 2-1 Finishing with 4th see due to harder games than UF
FGCU 1-2 Finish with 5th seed. (will play Miami and Bethel tougher than VT plays ECU and UF)
FSU 0-3 Finishing with the 7th seed

ECU defeats USC in first round
Bethel defeats FGCU in first round________ ECU defeats Bethel______ .

Florida defeats VT in first round_________ Miami defeats Florida_____ECU & MIAMI goes to OVERTIME... Whoever has less PIM's wins
Miami defeats FSU in first round

[ECUHockey]

Chris,
As far as winning pct, that looks about right to me. Your games in Pittsburgh didn't count because they were out of region, much like Mason's and Tampa's didn't count. The only inter-regional that counts are ones hosted by the SECRHL (Kuddo's to Tampa or whoever for convincing punching bag Sam Houston State from the SCHL to come to Florida)

I would say you guys received a pretty easy bracket compared to the other. I'm looking forward to seeing Florida for the 1st time. I'm also surprised JMU decided not to come...

Must see games in D2 are
1 Bethel vs. Miami in pool game.
2 Bethel vs FGCU in pool game
3 ECU vs. Florida

My prediction.
ECU 3-0 finishing with 1st seed due to "easier" competition
UF 2-1 finish with 3rd see due to easier competition
VT 1 -2
USC 0-3 finishing 8th seed.

Miami 3-0 finishing with 2nd seed overall
Bethel 2-1 Finishing with 4th see due to harder games than UF
FGCU 1-2 Finish with 5th seed. (will play Miami and Bethel tougher than VT plays ECU and UF)
FSU 0-3 Finishing with the 7th seed

ECU defeats USC in first round
Bethel defeats FGCU in first round________ ECU defeats Bethel______ .

Florida defeats VT in first round_________ Miami defeats Florida_____ECU & MIAMI goes to OVERTIME... Whoever has less PIM's wins
Miami defeats FSU in first round

Thats true, I guess I was just stuck on USC getting in instead of JMU. Playoffs will be exciting to watch in DII. Going to be some hard fought games. Really looking forward to it. Going to interesting if they keep it cross pool play or just reseed anyone (I dont see the second option happening) but stranger things have happened.

[JMUU]

What happened to JMU?

We just didn't have enough people committed to make the trip for regionals this year. Some of it came down to money but a few people just really didn't want to drive all the way down to Georgia. I know GMU and UM both have longer drives than we do but 8+ hours is still really long and expensive after paying for gas. We've now qualified for regionals each of the past three years and haven't gone once, which sucks especially because this the best team we've had since i've been playing.

Good luck to all of you at regionals. I haven't seen any of the FL teams except FSU play this year but I defiantly think ECU is the favorite going into the weekend, especially after the way the pools were split up.

[MasonHockey]

We just didn't have enough people committed to make the trip for regionals this year. Some of it came down to money but a few people just really didn't want to drive all the way down to Georgia. I know GMU and UM both have longer drives than we do but 8+ hours is still really long and expensive after paying for gas. We've now qualified for regionals each of the past three years and haven't gone once, which sucks especially because this the best team we've had since i've been playing.

Good luck to all of you at regionals. I haven't seen any of the FL teams except FSU play this year but I defiantly think ECU is the favorite going into the weekend, especially after the way the pools were split up.

Maybe you guys should start saving for next year's Regionals this year... After all with ECU, Bethel, FGCU moving up to D1 the odds of you making D2 regionals just improved. Also with you only having to travel to NC twice, Chantilly once, and Colombia, 1 trip to GA isn't that bad...

[GMU18]

I'm sure someone knows the anwser to this, but how is the D1 regionals being played out? i heard its double eliminiation.. which could be awkward with 5 teams. how that gonna work?

[BEEZERAL]

I'm sure someone knows the anwser to this, but how is the D1 regionals being played out? i heard its double eliminiation.. which could be awkward with 5 teams. how that gonna work?

Im surprised JR hasnt let you guys know the deal yet. We have been in constant contact with JR the past 2 weeks concerning regionals for DII

[BEEZERAL]

Congrats to UCF on winning D1 and Bethel for winning D2.

Let the politicing for at-large bids begin

[MasonHockey]

Congrats to UCF on winning D1 and Bethel for winning D2.

Let the politicing for at-large bids begin

Have to wait for ECRHA and other regions Regionals first. If I were you I would hope for NO UPSETS!

Have to think University of Miami and Florida Gulf Coast will be the first at - large SECRHL D2 selections.

[ECUHockey]

I think we would have the first at large bid IMO.

[MasonHockey]

I think we would have the first at large bid IMO.

I believe you guys automatically qualify by reaching the championship game. However, if that is not the case, then yeah ECU is a shoe in after your difficult schedule and quality wins.

[teedeezee]

difficult schedule?!?!?!?!?! if south carolina, florida, and v-tech is difficult then yeah i guess so.....

[ECUHockey]

We worked hard all season to finish first in the SECRHL and were rewarded with an easier regional schedule. We have played tough competition all year.

[Hockeyguy22]

I agree with ECU. like in all tournaments top seeds are rewarded with an easier "road" to the finals. Buit they have had quality wins all year. I think that they will do well at nationals.

[Missionhockey12]

We worked hard all season to finish first in the SECRHL and were rewarded with an easier regional schedule. We have played tough competition all year.

ECUHockey,

I couldn't agree more. We (UT) worked hard all season to finish in first place. This years regionals were awesome. Although the outcome wasn't what we had hoped for I can't say I'm not surprised with the outcome. I think it was clear that Tampa was favored along with GMU as the top two teams for D1 at the start of the season. But that is why we play a full season and why a record truly does matter. UCF proved that.. If your regular season doesn't matter then why not just play regionals in October and save some money on traveling and hotels.. Congrats to UCF and Bethel.

See ya in Wisco!
Jeff Kotcher
UT 12

[GMU18]

I agree it is annoying that record doesn't matter for the teams who finished in the top places. But due to the fact that only 5 teams are in D1 it has to be this way. Next year Bethel, FGCU, UM, and ECU will be joining D1. Which means that at least one team will not attend regionals. I would suggest that only 6 D1 teams go to regionals next year. Therefore eliminating the bottom 3, making games during the season more important.