Bethel????????????

[swienafan#2]

Just wondering why this team is hated? And think its ok to post your comments about the team as a whole or players individually.:confused:

[teedeezee]

i wasnt aware they were hated....

[swienafan#2]

not sayin that everyone does but heard some comments about the fact the have buses, their own, rink, nice jerseys, and ppl are talkin about it like its a bad thing.

[hockeykid12]

no body cares, its just a jealousy thing that the school hooks up the team and not their team like that, good for bethel, its a mini lindenwood just not as productive and historic as lu has been.

[avesfan19]

I think it is humorous how everyone is comparing them to Lindenwood, and how they are not as productive as Lindenwood or made history like Lindenwood. This is the teams first year and are doing great for a first year team. How are you suppose to make history in 8 games compared to what 9 national championships in a row? No comparison, but thanks for coming out

[BEEZERAL]

no body cares, its just a jealousy thing that the school hooks up the team and not their team like that, good for bethel, its a mini lindenwood just not as productive and historic as lu has been.

people hate them because they are a DII team that has full funding from its schools athletic department and everyone is on scholarship. combine that with the fact that there best player is a tool who talks **** all game and takes cheap shots at the other team and you have everyone hating them

[avesfan19]

people hate them because they are a DII team that has full funding from its schools athletic department and everyone is on scholarship. combine that with the fact that there best player is a tool who talks **** all game and takes cheap shots at the other team and you have everyone hating them

So you hate a team because the school is willing to put money into their sport in order for them to succeed? Nevermind I get it, you are just upset because you do not have the talent to be recognized by a school who does offer scholarships for inline. Jealousy...

[swienafan#2]

ya it just seems like the other schools talk trash first and the funding thing prolly has alot to do with it but as you said its a first year team not sure how well they was gonna do first year im sure next year they will have a DI team next year. Not to put out their business, and for the whole being a tool not to sure about that whats being a tool when you're getting cheap shot and you answer back? And so what its a small private school that doesnt know crap about hockey, but they stand behind their athletes. Its funny though cant remember what team it was but a player got hurt and the bethel trainer went to help them out.................

[ECUHockey]

combine that with the fact that there best player is a tool who talks **** all game and takes cheap shots at the other team and you have everyone hating them

^^^This. The kid really makes the team look bad Coach.

[swienafan#2]

im not the coach just thought it would be funny to use his name

[ilovecollege]

im not the coach just thought it would be funny to use his name

yeah really funny. and it makes your team and coach look really unprofessional. good call on "pretending" to be the coach.

[buparent]

yeah really funny. and it makes your team and coach look really unprofessional. good call on "pretending" to be the coach.

Yes I have to agree, I think it is a dumb idea not being the coach and using his name. It makes the whole program look like a joke.

As for the "tool" of the team. I have witnessed the tired old tactic of "going after" the team's best player with cheap shots, both physical and verbal to get him out of the game. Miami did it, ECU did it, NCST did it and GMU did it. He made the mistake of falling into the trap during the Miami game. I heard he apologized to the team and coach and it hasn't happened since.

As for all the hating and jealousy of Bethel, why not embrace it? Why not use it as an example to your school's administration of what other schools are providing? As an opportunity to possibly convince those in charge what they should being providing and doing for your team?

First Lindenwood, now Bethel, who is next? Maybe is continues to keep growing to benefit more and more teams.

[teedeezee]

i do find it hilarious that they have "signings" pictured on their website as if they are doing something thats a really big deal. but good for them if the school funds them like that, i guess thats what 30k a year gets you. fyi, their uni's are uglier than sin. just sayin.

[swienafan#2]

Ya funny thing is that i used his name because im a fan of what he is doing at the school and for the state of TN........ Because of Coach Swiena Bethel is the first tn school to give out roller hockey scholarships. If you can read my user name says swiena fan #2 not coach swiena and the other fact is im not part of the team either i just keep up with what is going on in my town. Also how does it make them look unprofessional because i used his name its not like ive been trash talking other teams or players themselves?????? Its just a blog stop crying..... fyi this is the last you will be hearing from swienafan#2 goodbye cry babies

[GoRangrHky]

"Bethel will be only one of four universities to offer hockey as a collegiate sport in the state of Tennessee and the only one to offer scholarship opportunities."

"iii. Additionally, student athletes may not receive financial aid or monetary disbursement of any kind directly from the NCRHA program he/she represents nor from any booster club or sponsor affiliated with the NCRHA hockey program."

[buparent]

i do find it hilarious that they have "signings" pictured on their website as if they are doing something thats a really big deal.

Wow, more jealousy! The school chooses to put up their siginings just like they do for any other sport. Isn't that the goal of all in-line players; to be recognized just as any other sport?

Don't be a hater because your school could care less about you or your accomplishments. Maybe one day your school will take notice of your athletic ability and the accomplishments of your team. Ten years from now, will anyone be able to go on your school's athletic website and see anything about you or your team? Gone and forgotten, oh wait they can't forget you, they never heard of you and your team at your school.

Continue to hate, I like that and hope our team thrives on it.

[letsgoisles89]

why is bethel a d-2 team with all of the school support they get? it doesn't make any sense to me why the secrhl and ncrha would allow that

[buparent]

"Bethel will be only one of four universities to offer hockey as a collegiate sport in the state of Tennessee and the only one to offer scholarship opportunities."

"iii. Additionally, student athletes may not receive financial aid or monetary disbursement of any kind directly from the NCRHA program he/she represents nor from any booster club or sponsor affiliated with the NCRHA hockey program."

You need to read the rules more closely:

ii. Student-athletes may receive only financial aid which has been properly channeled through the college/university financial aid office or other college/university office.

Last time I checked, the players at Bethel do not get financial or menetary disbursement from the program, booster club or sponsor. All of it comes from the school. And by the way, I can not speak about all the players, but none of the ones I know are on "full" rides. The scholarships are only partial scholarships to offset the costs of going to a private institution. All of them pay something.

[buparent]

why is bethel a d-2 team with all of the school support they get? it doesn't make any sense to me why the secrhl and ncrha would allow that

Maybe because its a first year program?

[letsgoisles89]

Maybe because its a first year program?

i'm not hating on bethel with that post - but with the division realignments throughout the ncrha over the past year and all of the changes made to D-1 to make D-1 the face of the ncrha to make the league more legit, you would think that the ncrha would want a school with support from its athletic department as one of the schools being in the premier division thats the face of the league. it doesn't matter that its their first year, with athletic department support the team is probably run better than most teams in the country that have been around for 10 years - which are run by students.

[buparent]

The coach has told me that they will field a D-I team next year as well as a second team. So next year they should be ready.

[ilovecollege]

this one time i played bethel and i got down and kissed the rink before them in awe of how awesome they are. not joking at all. it was quite a scene.

[GoRangrHky]

You need to read the rules more closely:

ii. Student-athletes may receive only financial aid which has been properly channeled through the college/university financial aid office or other college/university office.

Last time I checked, the players at Bethel do not get financial or menetary disbursement from the program, booster club or sponsor. All of it comes from the school. And by the way, I can not speak about all the players, but none of the ones I know are on "full" rides. The scholarships are only partial scholarships to offset the costs of going to a private institution. All of them pay something.

I know the league operations manual like the back of my hand. I've been in this league longer than most of those kids have been able to skate. Getting an athletic scholarship through the athletics department (which administers the team- it is not a "student organization") is the same as getting it from the program. The school IS the program.
"The spirit of this rule is to prevent the use of financial compensation without academic or legitimate financial merit as a recruitment tool." The money is being distributed based primarily based on athletic ability, NOT academic or financial need. Don't think so? Ask any NCAA compliance officer, and see what they say about it.

The reason why our schools do not do this? The majority of these schools are NCAA institutions who have a significantly stricter set of rules and regulations regarding varsity athletics (and junior varsity athletics, for that matter) than the NAIA. Under those circumstances, there is very little chance that NCAA institutions (aside from the ivies, and perhaps some NCAA Div. III schools) would ever consider sponsoring the sport at this level, since their dollars are needed to ensure they are meeting the three prong Title IX compliance test. Funding for a male dominated sport like this would need to come from a private donor, and additional women's programs would need to be added to reach even a minimal level of compliance.

[GoRangrHky]

Isn't that the goal of all in-line players; to be recognized just as any other sport?

Ten years from now, will anyone be able to go on your school's athletic website and see anything about you or your team? Gone and forgotten, oh wait they can't forget you, they never heard of you and your team at your school.


First off, no, it is not the goal of every single inline player to be a varsity athlete. There are plenty of people out there that specifically choose NOT to play varsity sports for a variety of reasons- time commitment, academic focus, playing time- the list goes on about why someone would want to play a club sport rather than a varsity sport. I've seen it happen many times. I had the third string goalie for a nationally ranked NCAA DI women's ice hockey team quit and become the starter for the men's club team. She didn't seem too concerned that nobody would be able to find her name on the roster page.

And if that's really why you're playing the game, so that you can show all of your little high school buddies (or in this case, it sounds like a parent that wants to show all of his coworkers) your name on a website, you're not playing the game for the right reasons anyway. Hockey is a sport that to me preaches humility, but it's people like that (ESPECIALLY in the roller hockey world) that are ruining the game. And you say "our team" like you're lacing up the skates and going out there. Nothing like living our your childhood fantasies through your kids.

[buparent]

[QUOTE=GoRangrHky;67057]I know the league operations manual like the back of my hand. I've been in this league longer than most of those kids have been able to skate. Getting an athletic scholarship through the athletics department (which administers the team- it is not a "student organization") is the same as getting it from the program. The school IS the program.
"The spirit of this rule is to prevent the use of financial compensation without academic or legitimate financial merit as a recruitment tool." The money is being distributed based primarily based on athletic ability, NOT academic or financial need. Don't think so? Ask any NCAA compliance officer, and see what they say about it. [QUOTE]

ii. Student-athletes may receive only financial aid which has been properly channeled through the college/university financial aid office or other college/university office.

How is the athletics department not an "other college/university office"? And if it has been properly channeled through there what is wrong with that?

Also, while most of the players have been awarded on playing ability, none are on full rides (I have confirmed that this morning). Bethel is a private institution and is more expensive than "state" schools. I'm sure financial need can be shown by every player. Two of the players are in the National Guard and have jobs, I know they can't afford to pay to go to Bethel out of pocket.

I know for sure that some teams get money from schools (i.e. money from the student activities, club or organizations fund) to help offset costs of league dues. I have seen teams usuing school vans, the school is spporting them in a small way but supporting nonetheless. Are these benefits not like a scholarship? They are receiving something for playing hockey that they would not otherwise get. Basically a scholarship is a "discount" in tuition, especially if it does not cover all costs. I know that I pay more for my son to go to Bethel than he would at the state school he almost choose that did not offer any hockey.

Call them what you want, an atheltic scholarship or a school grant, the school is not giving money. They are just making school more affordable to the students and giving them the opportunity to play a sport they love.

By the way, you should know NCAA D-III schools have done it for years. While the players are not getting an "athletic" scholarship, they get a grant or qualify for an endowment, etc. to help offset tution costs at private institutions. So, there are ways it could be done under the NCAA guidelines.

[buparent]

And if that's really why you're playing the game, so that you can show all of your little high school buddies (or in this case, it sounds like a parent that wants to show all of his coworkers) your name on a website, you're not playing the game for the right reasons anyway. Hockey is a sport that to me preaches humility, but it's people like that (ESPECIALLY in the roller hockey world) that are ruining the game. And you say "our team" like you're lacing up the skates and going out there. Nothing like living our your childhood fantasies through your kids.

I don't think any of them are doing it to show off to "their high school buddies". The school officials actually put that up ont he website. The players did not solicit that at all. Its also called promotion of the sport. How is in-line hockey ever to grow if it is not promoted where people know there are opportunities to play for your college, school, etc.?

I guess you know nothing about parenting, it is our team. The times taking him to practice, time traveling to take him to tournaments, money spent for equipment, now school, yes it is our team.

And no, I don't have to live out my childhood fantasies through my son. I played NCAA D-I ice hockey in college, I already have lived the dream.

[ClevelandSteam8]

Yeah the 30k i get a year from this school helps me pay for my spring break in florida.

[GoRangrHky]

There is a difference between scholarship money and actual and necessary expenses related to playing. I have had classes and jobs where I was taught in depth about how it works. You can try and twist it how you want, read the parts that are convenient to your case, but the fact is that under the NCRHA rules, these players are not supposed to be getting that money, or should be ineligible if they are.

"Ten years from now, will anyone be able to go on your school's athletic website and see anything about you or your team? Gone and forgotten, oh wait they can't forget you, they never heard of you and your team at your school." If not for their friends, then who are they showing it to? The hoards of Bethel University fans around the country that are logging on to see the roller hockey scores? And let's be honest, most teams have websites, players all have great NCRHA profiles (if done correctly) that Mike Burke and Co. have done to make one of the best club sports sites, if not one of the best sites for sports statistics in general, out there. Your big purple website doesn't make your team, the way that you present yourself in general does. And the parents of players going on to defend their kids- no how many practices you still have to drive them to- is not making ANYONE here want to become what your program is trying to be.

[avesfan19]

If other programs do not want to become what they are trying to be, then why are they all on here talking about them? There was plenty of talk about them and what they are doing, before anybody supporting Bethel even posted anything. There is obviously a jealousy issue because of what they have and what they are doing with the program. Also, you bring up the fact that the players are not suppose to receive "actual and necessary expenses." Do you know Bethel's players and the families personally? Therefore, you have no idea to weather the money is "necessary" for them to play a sport they love while they are getting an education there.

[livinthedream]

There is a difference between scholarship money and actual and necessary expenses related to playing. I have had classes and jobs where I was taught in depth about how it works. You can try and twist it how you want, read the parts that are convenient to your case, but the fact is that under the NCRHA rules, these players are not supposed to be getting that money, or should be ineligible if they are.

"Ten years from now, will anyone be able to go on your school's athletic website and see anything about you or your team? Gone and forgotten, oh wait they can't forget you, they never heard of you and your team at your school." If not for their friends, then who are they showing it to? The hoards of Bethel University fans around the country that are logging on to see the roller hockey scores? And let's be honest, most teams have websites, players all have great NCRHA profiles (if done correctly) that Mike Burke and Co. have done to make one of the best club sports sites, if not one of the best sites for sports statistics in general, out there. Your big purple website doesn't make your team, the way that you present yourself in general does. And the parents of players going on to defend their kids- no how many practices you still have to drive them to- is not making ANYONE here want to become what your program is trying to be.

Can you not read its not a real scholarship its a discount in tutition we still pay more money a year at school then what you do get off our nuts and stop crying .............. most people here are sad and depressing and the funny thing is bethel is what everyone is talking about even if they are just hating on us yall are still talking about us because yall are worried about how good bethel is. Not saying we are great or anything but i have not heard bethel players say anything about any of the other teams buts thats because they dont care they are here to get an education first and play hockey second.

[GoRangrHky]

We're worried about how good a 5-3 DII SECRHL team is? Or what, that Bethel is making a run to no longer be a second tier college?

You ARE supposed to be able to get actual and necessary expenses. According to the NCAA, "actual and necessary expenses" are those required for practice and competition, such as meals, travel to practices and competition and medical insurance. You should not be getting beyond that under the NCRHA's rules.

I can read, thank you very much, and he was comparing an athletic scholarship to a discount in tuition, not saying that it specifically is a discounted tuition (which it's not). Discounted tuition, to not be considered a scholarship or grant, must fall on a general class of individuals (ex. in state versus out of state, or a dependent child of a university employee) not those with specific skill sets in the academic, performance, or athletic realm.

I don't understand what the issue is. You get benefits beyond those that you're supposed to be able to. You complain that tuition is high as if you're the only students in the country that have tuition to pay or have to work a job. And since you seem to insist on turning this into some sort of competition ("we still pay more money a year at school then what you do"), estimated cost of attendance at my school is $10k a year higher than yours.

I assume that you don't want anyone to feel sorry for you ("get off our nuts and stop crying"... didn't realize that's where I was), and you are definitely succeeding. Those are some tough words from a school that preaches its students being developed in a Christian environment, although that would explain the downfall of religion in the modern culture. I'm curious how your athletic director would view that statement.

Best of luck the rest of this season. When you start up the second semester, see if those expensive teachers of yours can teach you about some class.

[livinthedream]

its funny that before we knew about this site people had already been talkin trash about the bethel team its a private school they follow their own set of rules. oh and the only thing bethel takes care of is hotels, food, traveling, and helmets and wheels. All you get is a website to complain about bethel on. Do you really think it's classy to run your mouth about a CHRISTIAN school on an inline hockey website? WWJD?

[ClevelandSteam8]

We're worried about how good a 5-3 DII SECRHL team is? Or what, that Bethel is making a run to no longer be a second tier college?

You ARE supposed to be able to get actual and necessary expenses. According to the NCAA, "actual and necessary expenses" are those required for practice and competition, such as meals, travel to practices and competition and medical insurance. You should not be getting beyond that under the NCRHA's rules.

I can read, thank you very much, and he was comparing an athletic scholarship to a discount in tuition, not saying that it specifically is a discounted tuition (which it's not). Discounted tuition, to not be considered a scholarship or grant, must fall on a general class of individuals (ex. in state versus out of state, or a dependent child of a university employee) not those with specific skill sets in the academic, performance, or athletic realm.

I don't understand what the issue is. You get benefits beyond those that you're supposed to be able to. You complain that tuition is high as if you're the only students in the country that have tuition to pay or have to work a job. And since you seem to insist on turning this into some sort of competition ("we still pay more money a year at school then what you do"), estimated cost of attendance at my school is $10k a year higher than yours.

I assume that you don't want anyone to feel sorry for you ("get off our nuts and stop crying"... didn't realize that's where I was), and you are definitely succeeding. Those are some tough words from a school that preaches its students being developed in a Christian environment, although that would explain the downfall of religion in the modern culture. I'm curious how your athletic director would view that statement.

Best of luck the rest of this season. When you start up the second semester, see if those expensive teachers of yours can teach you about some class.

You ever thought about getting a teaching degree at the 30k school you go too? i didn't know this blog turned into a lecture class from GoRangrHky you should consider moving from you computer desk with your 427 useless post that no one gives two ****s about.

[livinthedream]

the funny thing about this whole thing is that this website is a joke to us and all it does is make us work harder lol. So thanks for trash talking it is amusing, also im sure in our 5-3 we beat you guys so i can understand why you might be a lil sensative about bethel hockey coming up from no where kinda sucks that we come in and put teams to shame that have been around a lot longer......... As we sit here and laugh at how upset you get about how not serious this forum is and as i said before we just found out about this site this week and noticed all the crap ppl are willing to say on the internet so go on be a cyber bully ive meet a bunch of telephone tough guys in my day and you are just another one

[ilovecollege]

has anyone else noticed that only bethel people are commenting on this posting now? go ahead bethel! keep boosting your self esteem!

[ilovecollege]

also, i would like to say that i would much rather get an education and diploma at a real school instead of playing roller hockey at bethel. i think most guys around the league would feel the same way. im going to say that almost every school in the secrhl is more accredited than bethel.

[hockeykid12]

I have to admit i post a lot of things to stir the pot up on this website, but my lord this is the most useless thread in the entire internet forums on any subject. Bethel is a D2 team that plays in a very weak region, that is a barely above average team, there is no reason to even comment on this thread. Hopefully its true and next year they move up to D1, this would be different if the great d2 teams of last year were still in d2 and could really pound on them but this might be a year for them to get pumped up and win something,then get there skates handed to them next year in D1. One would think that a team that recruits would recruit studs from narch/statewars/torhs seems like tennesse isnt that appealing for the better players, and they went with mediocre players that were willing to take a free ride in a nothing place in the country. Best of luck this year to Bethel and all of the teams out there.

[Sinister Soup]

I didn't know there was another roller hockey team out there that was giving out scholarships other then Linwood. In my defense i graduated from college 4 years ago and have been out of the loop for a while. I can understand why people are getting upset with bethel, I remember how much I hated Linwood when i went to college because organizing a program every year ourselves was tough enough without having to compete against a program that could recruit any player they wanted. However, now that I'm a little older and a little wiser I'm happy to see that there are clubs out there with university support. The ncrha program is the pinnacle for roller hockey. I've played in torhs, narch, mlrh and piha and while some of these programs may have teams who are more talented then the college teams none of these tournaments/leagues come close to the organization, participation level, support and overall experience that the ncrha provides. Some people may disagree with me on this point but once your on the outside looking In you'll agree. The ncrha needs more bethel's and i hope there are more coming down the pipe....... However all of you bethel players need to take a page from lindenwoods book. When we went online to bitch about lindenwood or call them out during a game they always remained sportsmen. Lindenwood always kept quiet and never retaliated and it made there program classy. I hope you do the same.

[BEEZERAL]

Yes I have to agree, I think it is a dumb idea not being the coach and using his name. It makes the whole program look like a joke.

As for the "tool" of the team. I have witnessed the tired old tactic of "going after" the team's best player with cheap shots, both physical and verbal to get him out of the game. Miami did it, ECU did it, NCST did it and GMU did it. He made the mistake of falling into the trap during the Miami game. I heard he apologized to the team and coach and it hasn't happened since.

As for all the hating and jealousy of Bethel, why not embrace it? Why not use it as an example to your school's administration of what other schools are providing? As an opportunity to possibly convince those in charge what they should being providing and doing for your team?

First Lindenwood, now Bethel, who is next? Maybe is continues to keep growing to benefit more and more teams.

we went after your player???? you have got to be kidding me. we were kicking your ass before the ref's got involved and put bethel on the power play for half the 2nd period. then your "good christian boy" goes after our smallest player who has a grand total of 0 penalty minutes all year after the play and one of our bigger guys stepped in. if our player hadnt stepped in Foote would have been the only one kicked out. i try to remain calm on these boards so I dont embarrass myself or my school but you are a joke. anyone who watched that game from the outside could see that bethel benefited from the officials putting half our team in the box. most of the teams in the SECRHL hate miami because of how some of our players act but even they will probably agree with me. i mean 12 penalty minutes to 4 if you subtract the fighting majors.

[ECUHockey]

we went after your player???? you have got to be kidding me. we were kicking your ass before the ref's got involved and put bethel on the power play for half the 2nd period. then your "good christian boy" goes after our smallest player who has a grand total of 0 penalty minutes all year after the play and one of our bigger guys stepped in. if our player hadnt stepped in Foote would have been the only one kicked out. i try to remain calm on these boards so I dont embarrass myself or my school but you are a joke. anyone who watched that game from the outside could see that bethel benefited from the officials putting half our team in the box. most of the teams in the SECRHL hate miami because of how some of our players act but even they will probably agree with me. i mean 12 penalty minutes to 4 if you subtract the fighting majors.

Beezerall, just stop where your at. Its not worth arguing. You won't win.

[livinthedream]

AS we have stated before we are just messing with yall......... we've been getting chirped before we even knew about this site we only started this to see how ppl would react its amusing how much the team is hated and for no apparent reason i know for a fact that some of the bethel players keep in contact with some of the ecu guys on good terms and that trash talk is part of the game i personally dont hate anyone from any of the teams we have faced i met one of the goalies from gmu seemed like a really good kid but it seems we we keep getting attacked because of the "scholarship" thing and in my defense a degree from a school is looked upon with the same respect unless its ivy league school. So guys im willing to apologize on this site in front of all these teams, players, and members Sorry for stirring the pot

[BEEZERAL]

AS we have stated before we are just messing with yall......... we've been getting chirped before we even knew about this site we only started this to see how ppl would react its amusing how much the team is hated and for no apparent reason i know for a fact that some of the bethel players keep in contact with some of the ecu guys on good terms and that trash talk is part of the game i personally dont hate anyone from any of the teams we have faced i met one of the goalies from gmu seemed like a really good kid but it seems we we keep getting attacked because of the "scholarship" thing and in my defense a degree from a school is looked upon with the same respect unless its ivy league school. So guys im willing to apologize on this site in front of all these teams, players, and members Sorry for stirring the pot

you miss the point. everyone does not hate you because of the scholarships, everyone hates you because of how some of your players act on and off the rink. same reason why a lot of teams don't like Miami, because some of our players act like dumbasses. Your best player happens to be a major **** that everyone hates and it has nothing to do with the fact that he is an outstanding hockey player. its because he is a cheap shot artist who will try to fight the smallest player on the opposing team then back down when someone his size comes after him

[ECUHockey]

Exactly. I have no problems/issues with you guys and I have talked with a bunch of you all on and off the rink. You all seem cool, its just one player that ruins it for you all. From the cheap shots to the cup checks (yes this has happened multiple times), it just gets really old really fast. Best of luck to you all next semester. Should be a great finish.

[livinthedream]

ya i understand its all good fellas good luck to yall too

[RollerGawdDawg]

Lets set the record straight.
Bethel people don't like you because you are a joke of a program from a joke of a school in hicksville, TN. Is Bethel even an accredited university, or is it more of an ITT Tech thing you guys got going on. The fact that your school would devote the time and effort to build an athletic program around a bunch of benders in DII roller hockey speaks volumes of the decision makers there. On top of it all you guys really are a bunch of clowns who take roller hockey too seriously. Please take a step back and evaluate where your lives have gone so miserably wrong that you are willing to take DII roller hockey so seriously. In case no one's told you, you're probably not going to make the jump to "the show" from the SECRHL.

With love,

Papo Suave

[Jon Niola]

Can you all just chill out a bit. This thread is derailing rapidly. I don't want to have to abuse my moderator privs to lock threads :)

[livinthedream]

Lets set the record straight.
Bethel people don't like you because you are a joke of a program from a joke of a school in hicksville, TN. Is Bethel even an accredited university, or is it more of an ITT Tech thing you guys got going on. The fact that your school would devote the time and effort to build an athletic program around a bunch of benders in DII roller hockey speaks volumes of the decision makers there. On top of it all you guys really are a bunch of clowns who take roller hockey too seriously. Please take a step back and evaluate where your lives have gone so miserably wrong that you are willing to take DII roller hockey so seriously. In case no one's told you, you're probably not going to make the jump to "the show" from the SECRHL.

With love,

Papo Suave

IF you want you can look it up yes its an accredited university yes we are a super small school in hicksville i agree. Also Bethel we be having a DI and a D2 team next year with big possibilities of a B team also. And for the fact of taking it so serious i dont think so just because the school bought us a rink to practice on and the avalibilty to skate whenever we please is a nice incentive. Also the players built the rink themselves, flooring, boards, glass, the works without help from the school. Now how many other schools if they bought a rink would make the players build it their selves? I could care less about if you think we are are gonna make the jump to the "big Show" its gonna happen wether you want it or not everyone was calmed down till you put your 2 cents in. I just wanna be everyones friend im a nice guy dont start junk with anyone it just sounds like most ppl are mad about the school backing us and thats just being jealous which isnt healthy for the heart. I understand maybe some do take it too serious but its not just the bethel players. Im sorry yall feel that way too bad we cant be friends????????? :(

[RollerGawdDawg]

IF you want you can look it up yes its an accredited university yes we are a super small school in hicksville i agree. Also Bethel we be having a DI and a D2 team next year with big possibilities of a B team also. And for the fact of taking it so serious i dont think so just because the school bought us a rink to practice on and the avalibilty to skate whenever we please is a nice incentive. Also the players built the rink themselves, flooring, boards, glass, the works without help from the school. Now how many other schools if they bought a rink would make the players build it their selves? I could care less about if you think we are are gonna make the jump to the "big Show" its gonna happen wether you want it or not everyone was calmed down till you put your 2 cents in. I just wanna be everyones friend im a nice guy dont start junk with anyone it just sounds like most ppl are mad about the school backing us and thats just being jealous which isnt healthy for the heart. I understand maybe some do take it too serious but its not just the bethel players. Im sorry yall feel that way too bad we cant be friends????????? :(

The players built the rinks themselves because it was a requirement for their carpentry major. What else would you do with a 25th-75th percentile SAT score of 1215-1455 out of 2400? I guess with scores like that I'd take a scholarship anywhere too.

[livinthedream]

why do you feel the need to hurt me so?

[BEEZERAL]

why do you feel the need to hurt me so?

Jesus (can I say Jesus???) this got heated again quick.

[livinthedream]

no im being serious that hurt i never did anything to that guy ever Im just working on getting my degree and have an oppurtunity to play some hockey honestly i couldnt do it without the help of bethel

[livinthedream]

i mean whats wrong with being a carpenter? If we didnt have carpenters we wouldnt have homes and stuff.

[livinthedream]

Jesus (can I say Jesus???) this got heated again quick.

Beezeral youre alright.

[letsgoisles89]

Can you all just chill out a bit. This thread is derailing rapidly. I don't want to have to abuse my moderator privs to lock threads :)

you should honestly just lock it now - its pointless and was going no where good from the beginning, just look at the first post! a bethel kid who wanted to get posters to talk about why they hate bethel as a team, and encouraging people to post about individual players as well?

and you can tell from this kids horrible grammar that livinthedream is the same guy who started this stupid thread - who was forced to change his name after another bethel poster wrote his old name made his program look like a joke. and you keep saying how this forum is a joke to you and people at bethel, so how about you stop checking it? i'd honestly recommend you to stop coming here unless you take the forum seriously because you're giving a horrible first impression of your school's program to all of the people who check the forum from other regions.

[RollerGawdDawg]

and you can tell from this kids horrible grammar that livinthedream is the same guy who started this stupid thread - who was forced to change his name after another bethel poster wrote his old name made his program look like a joke. and you keep saying how this forum is a joke to you and people at bethel, so how about you stop checking it? i'd honestly recommend you to stop coming here unless you take the forum seriously because you're giving a horrible first impression of your school's program to all of the people who check the forum from other regions.

hahahaha. Honestly what do you guys expect when you open the thread by asking why people are hating on you. I know foresight may not be your strong suit, but you should have expected people to continue to hate on you. If your "school" and program really cared about professionalism and its image it wouldn't let you post on this forum. If you expect people to take your program seriously stop acting like a child in a public place

[GoRangrHky]

Agreed. I didn't know a thing about the school or the program except for the contributions of its players to this thread and what I can find on the internet- neither of which did much to impress me.

And for that matter, you can not have a DI and a DII program concurrently. Plenty of other teams I'm sure would gladly construct a rink if the school provided the materials. There have been schools that laid Sport Court in old swimming pools to practice, only to have to pull it up again at the end of the practice and lay it back down the next time. Sob stories about how you had to work really hard for a day or two to build your own private rink does little to garner a tear from me. I have friends that do that in their backyard winter after winter to skate for about three months before it melts down to the liner.

Instead of approaching this forum with the "wait til next year, you'll see then when we kick your ass!!" approach, perhaps it should have been more along the lines of "we were able to get our school to do this for us, we can help you build up something like this at your school too". THAT is how you get the respect of people around the league. Maybe inviting a school to come down and play at your little home rink, and being hospitable in the process, like I believe UCSB has (who by the way has what appears to be the best on campus facility in the NCRHA).