2010-2011 Outlook Additions/Subtractions

[hockeykid12]

What teams are losing players and who are gaining? D2, ofcourse its going to be Neuamnn WCU Rowan and Brockport in the top 4 but any of the teams lose players or add players?

Neumann - Mariotti/ Klenk

Wcu- Keene, Ems, Mcgaulglin

RU- Keating

Bport- ?

[Patn Lawton]

I think the two key players Bport lost are Shaw and Masocco. I am curious if any of these four teams will move to D1?

[kevinsmithAZ]

I am curious if any of these four teams will move to D1?

That's the better question.

These teams combined to go 75-9 in the regular season.
--5 of those 9 losses were Neumann losses
--7 of the 9 were when these teams played each other

[MBurke]

That's the better question.

These teams combined to go 75-9 in the regular season.
--5 of those 9 losses were Neumann losses
--7 of the 9 were when these teams played each other

Still have a bit of time to submit here: http://inlinehockeycentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34304 :)

[hockeykid12]

i doubt any of the teams ae going to make the move

[GMU18]

I know that GMU will be gaining 2-3 more key players.. Hopefully we move to the ecrha but thats not my decision.

[Patn Lawton]

Who makes that decision for you guys?

[GMU18]

I'm not sure, but i know its not me ha.

[hockeymum]

I think the two key players Bport lost are Shaw and Masocco. I am curious if any of these four teams will move to D1?

dont hold your breath...

[Ben Lambert]

dont hold your breath...
............
+1

[sid21]

How about the top D1 teams? From what I know...Lindenwood isn't losing anyone from this year's championship team. But is Gouge returning or any other new additions going to make them even stronger?

Looks like UMSL loses Meade, Maloney, and Holzum to the 5 year eligibility rule...any replacements coming in to pick up the slack?

I've heard ASU returns everyone but no idea will they have any new additions? As long as Buffalo keeps their core of Walser, Durinka, and Kendall then they'll be a contender again. Looks like Michigan State loses Radford, Sheridan, and Caliguri, don't know if they have any new pickups but they have a pretty deep roster so they should be okay.

[Chapwi]

Brockport is losing Shaw and Masocco. We will also be missing one of our key defensivmen for the first semester, but he will be practicing with the team all year and if all goes well he will be good to go for the spring semester. And unlike alot of these other teams we have absolutely 0 knowledge of who the hell is coming to Brockport or if even anyone that knows how to skate will be coming to try-outs. And that is exactly why we dont make the jump to D1 along with other issues such as funding. But i will say that if we do do well again this year, and under the circumstance that we get atleast one or two good players this year, that i am very interested to make the jump D1 for my senior year.

[thefelixculpa]

Millersville is expecting a big turn around this year with the interest we've been getting and the new campus rink. Not that there was anywhere to go but up in the first place, though.

[Hockey Coach]

Where are you guys going to play ? D-1 or D-2

With the new application format there will be plenty of room
in the D-2. Applications will be reviwed that means it's time for the Neumann; Westchester; Brockport; Rowan; Temple; to step up to D-1 or down to D-3(didn't even know there was a D-3)

Looks like alot of the teams will be moving on up to take some lumps from the POWERHOUSE teams of the Northeast; Midwest; Great Plains and Southwest.

Should be interesting.

Any word on where Nationals will be for 2011 ? - FLA would be nice. Hopefully we will know before Christmas.

[FAUplayer]

Crazy idea. I have no intentions on playing next year, just thinking of ways to make the league better. Everyone knows NARCh is the biggest and the best. Nationals for NCRHA falls at the worst possible time in the school year, the last few weeks of classes, which pretty much screws everythign up for most poeple. How would it be to hold Nationals in partnership with NARCh nationals?

Even at that, you look at a lot of the NCAA sports, and they do not last the entire school year. Maybe just shortening the calendar season would benefit. The timing has been the biggest issue from my stand point, along with the already known sandbagging D2 teams not playing up in D1.

[InlineMBA]

Crazy idea. I have no intentions on playing next year, just thinking of ways to make the league better. Everyone knows NARCh is the biggest and the best. Nationals for NCRHA falls at the worst possible time in the school year, the last few weeks of classes, which pretty much screws everythign up for most poeple. How would it be to hold Nationals in partnership with NARCh nationals?

Even at that, you look at a lot of the NCAA sports, and they do not last the entire school year. Maybe just shortening the calendar season would benefit. The timing has been the biggest issue from my stand point, along with the already known sandbagging D2 teams not playing up in D1.

I'd have to wonder just how sharp teams would be after such a long layoff after Regionals. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea - just don't think it's practical. Plus, guys will be working and doing internships in the summer too.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

[kevinsmithAZ]

Crazy idea. I have no intentions on playing next year, just thinking of ways to make the league better. Everyone knows NARCh is the biggest and the best. Nationals for NCRHA falls at the worst possible time in the school year, the last few weeks of classes, which pretty much screws everythign up for most poeple. How would it be to hold Nationals in partnership with NARCh nationals?

Even at that, you look at a lot of the NCAA sports, and they do not last the entire school year. Maybe just shortening the calendar season would benefit. The timing has been the biggest issue from my stand point, along with the already known sandbagging D2 teams not playing up in D1.

Most spring sports (the big one being baseball) don't end until AFTER school gets out.. this years' College World Series ended June 29th this year.

[hockeykid12]

everyone moans and groans about d2 and the top teams dominating, well in d1 LW wins every year with the exception of umsl 2 years ago, atleast d2 has new champions every year, sure each conference has teams that roll over lower teams, in d1 same thing goes maybe the games are a little closer, but at the end of the year every team in d1 is playing for the same thing, 2nd place it is a fact that LW will be number 1 come the end of the year.. and i know people are going to say UMSL yeah great and they had a good team that year, but in reality are any of the d2 "sandbagging" teams going to bring down lindenwood? probably not, as long as they recruit and get the best players, other schools can do their best to recruit talent and hope it all meshes like umsl did 2 years ago. Stop complaining about d2, cause the reality is that yeah there are good teams in d2 that could make nationals in d1, but there is not one team in D2 that could beat Lindenwood or that could run D2 like Lindenwood has in D1 for years. So complaining about neumann, rowan and brockport is pointless cause they add parity to a league that has no dynasty to it. Who expected SIU to be runner up? Be honost nobody, cause everybody saw ECRHA going and throwing there top 4 teams into the final four. So the only thing that d1 suprises people with is when buffalo or umsl doesnt make it to the national championship game to try and give lindenwood a game. Atleast D2 there is an unknown.

[Patn Lawton]

.....what?

[NUHockey72]

Well Northeastern will definitely be going up to DII next year and hopefully so will some of the other teams who competed in DIII last year. After how we competed last year we got some attention from some pretty good players not to mention it helps we have a 1/3 sized rink right in our rec center. We're sure we won't have the exact same success we did in DIII last year but we're at least hoping we can contend for a nationals bid.

[Meade]

everyone moans and groans about d2 and the top teams dominating, well in d1 LW wins every year with the exception of umsl 2 years ago, atleast d2 has new champions every year, sure each conference has teams that roll over lower teams, in d1 same thing goes maybe the games are a little closer, but at the end of the year every team in d1 is playing for the same thing, 2nd place it is a fact that LW will be number 1 come the end of the year.. and i know people are going to say UMSL yeah great and they had a good team that year, but in reality are any of the d2 "sandbagging" teams going to bring down lindenwood? probably not, as long as they recruit and get the best players, other schools can do their best to recruit talent and hope it all meshes like umsl did 2 years ago. Stop complaining about d2, cause the reality is that yeah there are good teams in d2 that could make nationals in d1, but there is not one team in D2 that could beat Lindenwood or that could run D2 like Lindenwood has in D1 for years. So complaining about neumann, rowan and brockport is pointless cause they add parity to a league that has no dynasty to it. Who expected SIU to be runner up? Be honost nobody, cause everybody saw ECRHA going and throwing there top 4 teams into the final four. So the only thing that d1 suprises people with is when buffalo or umsl doesnt make it to the national championship game to try and give lindenwood a game. Atleast D2 there is an unknown.


This year was the first year in a long time that the eventual national champion didn't go undefeated through RR play, LU lost to Buffalo and tied UMSL in RR so I think the overall talent in D1 is growing. And yea I was totally playing for 2nd place two years ago, that's a horrible outlook that you're suggesting and definitely not a "fact"

[GoRangrHky]

I had a team full of players (all 20 we took out there with our DI team) say that they had no problem going up against Lindenwood and losing versus playing and winning in DII. They could have played in either, and still insisted on playing DI, and will be doing it again. They'd rather go out there and play a competitive game every time than traveling all that distance throughout the year to play some 13-1 games.

I'd rather play a full season with the Edmonton Oilers than a full season with the Hershey Bears. And would have NO problem being the Philadelphia Flyers of the NCRHA.

[NUHockey72]

I had a team full of players (all 20 we took out there with our DI team) say that they had no problem going up against Lindenwood and losing versus playing and winning in DII. They could have played in either, and still insisted on playing DI, and will be doing it again. They'd rather go out there and play a competitive game every time than traveling all that distance throughout the year to play some 13-1 games.

I'd rather play a full season with the Edmonton Oilers than a full season with the Hershey Bears. And would have NO problem being the Philadelphia Flyers of the NCRHA.

You have no problem trading your best player away for a fourth rounder and a minor leaguer?

All kidding aside I feel like that is the correct mentality for all teams to consider when they play you won't better yourself doing anything less than your best, and you can only bring that out when you play higher competition.

[hockeykid12]

So now that top D2 teams are all moving up to d1 to make the sport even more crediable, any chance of having nationals announced before the beginning of the school year?

[letsgoisles89]

everyone moans and groans about d2 and the top teams dominating, well in d1 LW wins every year with the exception of umsl 2 years ago, atleast d2 has new champions every year, sure each conference has teams that roll over lower teams, in d1 same thing goes maybe the games are a little closer, but at the end of the year every team in d1 is playing for the same thing, 2nd place it is a fact that LW will be number 1 come the end of the year.. and i know people are going to say UMSL yeah great and they had a good team that year, but in reality are any of the d2 "sandbagging" teams going to bring down lindenwood? probably not, as long as they recruit and get the best players, other schools can do their best to recruit talent and hope it all meshes like umsl did 2 years ago. Stop complaining about d2, cause the reality is that yeah there are good teams in d2 that could make nationals in d1, but there is not one team in D2 that could beat Lindenwood or that could run D2 like Lindenwood has in D1 for years. So complaining about neumann, rowan and brockport is pointless cause they add parity to a league that has no dynasty to it. Who expected SIU to be runner up? Be honost nobody, cause everybody saw ECRHA going and throwing there top 4 teams into the final four. So the only thing that d1 suprises people with is when buffalo or umsl doesnt make it to the national championship game to try and give lindenwood a game. Atleast D2 there is an unknown.

I'd like to hear what this guy thought about Buffalo absolutely TOYING with Lindenwood in round robin at nationals...

Nationals is less than 1 week long...the entire season + regional tournament is about 24 weeks.... In essence you were just trying to say that all D-1 teams waste their time going to nationals because they are playing for 2nd place (although I completely disagree). That must mean that aside from the top 4 teams in ECRHA D-2, the other 12 ECRHA D-2 teams, most of whom aren't even funded well are wasting their time and money over the 6 month long season because at the end of the ECRHA regional we know which 4 teams are going to be sent to D-2 nationals each year.

[hockeykid12]

what im saying is, why make the d2 teams move up when its the only division that has good competition for the majority of the teams, and can have a team come out of nowhere to win, example being SIU going to the title game this year, or brockport going undefeated all season. It is almost a fact that every year lindenwood is going to win the championship, even if they have lost a round robin game now and then

[letsgoisles89]

everyone moans and groans about d2 and the top teams dominating, well in d1 LW wins every year with the exception of umsl 2 years ago, atleast d2 has new champions every year, sure each conference has teams that roll over lower teams, in d1 same thing goes maybe the games are a little closer, but at the end of the year every team in d1 is playing for the same thing, 2nd place it is a fact that LW will be number 1 come the end of the year.. and i know people are going to say UMSL yeah great and they had a good team that year, but in reality are any of the d2 "sandbagging" teams going to bring down lindenwood? probably not, as long as they recruit and get the best players, other schools can do their best to recruit talent and hope it all meshes like umsl did 2 years ago. Stop complaining about d2, cause the reality is that yeah there are good teams in d2 that could make nationals in d1, but there is not one team in D2 that could beat Lindenwood or that could run D2 like Lindenwood has in D1 for years. So complaining about neumann, rowan and brockport is pointless cause they add parity to a league that has no dynasty to it. Who expected SIU to be runner up? Be honost nobody, cause everybody saw ECRHA going and throwing there top 4 teams into the final four. So the only thing that d1 suprises people with is when buffalo or umsl doesnt make it to the national championship game to try and give lindenwood a game. Atleast D2 there is an unknown.


what im saying is, why make the d2 teams move up when its the only division that has good competition for the majority of the teams, and can have a team come out of nowhere to win, example being SIU going to the title game this year, or brockport going undefeated all season. It is almost a fact that every year lindenwood is going to win the championship, even if they have lost a round robin game now and then

ok, so do you agree with this statement from my previous post:

"aside from the top 4 teams in ECRHA D-2, the other 12 ECRHA D-2 teams, most of whom aren't even funded well are wasting their time and money over the 6 month long season because at the end of the ECRHA regional we know which 4 teams are going to be sent to D-2 nationals each year."

so those few teams who are always above the rest of ECRHA D-2 should just stop wasting their own time, the other teams time, the referees time, and everyone's money and just spend the entire 6 months of the regular season practicing for nationals?

[Patn Lawton]

what im saying is, why make the d2 teams move up when its the only division that has good competition for the majority of the teams, and can have a team come out of nowhere to win, example being SIU going to the title game this year, or brockport going undefeated all season. It is almost a fact that every year lindenwood is going to win the championship, even if they have lost a round robin game now and then

Last I checked people who played sports wanted to man up and work towards being the best, not sit in a lower division in fear of having no chance of winning. This isn't mens league where you choose between bronze, silver, or gold league play. Let's not say Lindenwood can't be beaten, because UMSL manned up and beat them a few years ago, and I know someone else beat them in RR this year but I don't remember who.

I play AIHL minors last year because no duct tape can help my ankles, but I loved when I was asked to play on the elite team and skate with/against the better players.

[Ben Lambert]

Who expected SIU to be runner up? Be honost nobody, cause everybody saw ECRHA going and throwing there top 4 teams into the final four. .

http://www.inlinehockeycentral.com/showthread.php?33739-Question-about-D2-stats&p=61805#post61805