Pools

[GripperWheels]

The Pools?

[UmmaDoMe23]

I'll take anything at this point.......

[NCRHA]

The pools for the 2010 Collegiate Roller Hockey Championships are posted at:

http://ncrha.org/article.php?article_id=54257

[NCRHA]

The event schedule is posted as well. This includes the round robin games and brackets.

For Division I, the first round matchups in the single elimination brackets do not display on the brackets page. Use the DI Single Elimination pulldown and then click on schedule to see these first round matchups, that then funnel into the brackets page.

[GoRangrHky]

So since 6 teams decided not to come, the DI pools are set up the way they are. From the looks of things, teams that opted out were Central Michigan, Colorado State, Michigan, Missouri- Columbia, NC State, and UNLV. I get the travel considerations for a lot of these teams, but UNLV I'm disappointed with. It's a drive for them, and the event is in their home region.

I still would have liked the rest to have made it, but it is what it is. The top 4 are still all there, and the good thing is that we get to see them play each other in what should be some great, heavily watched games. I also like that with the teams balanced out like this, no one is going all the way there to get pounced on 3 times. You may not win, but theoretically, you should at least be competitive in all your games. On the flip side, it's a shame that some of these teams may never get a shot against a real top team to see how they'd hold up.

Regardless, I'm really looking forward to what should be a great week of hockey.

[William Bourque]

On the flip side, it's a shame that some of these teams may never get a shot against a real top team to see how they'd hold up.

Wouldn't they get that chance in the single elimination portion of the tournament?

[GoRangrHky]

Possibly, it depends on how they do in their first game out of it. The E1 team plays the D4 team in the first round, what I guess would be considered the 16th best team. You don't make it past that game, you're stuck with a schedule that was teams 16-21.

[hockeykid12]

so in D1 the pools are alrdy determining the seeding possible, how buot d2, it will they be reformed after pool play or is it going to be like A1 plays C4 or like B2 plays A3 and so on

[mustachemarty5]

They don't list the first round of the bracket, but I think this is how it is going to work out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I basically just filled in what each of the TBA games were going to be.

........Bye........A1 (1) ________
D4 (16)________
E1 (17)________


........Bye........B4 (8) ________
........Bye........C1 (9) ________


........Bye........A4 (4) ________
D1 (13)________
E4 (20)________


........Bye........B1 (5) ________
C4 (12)________
E5 (21)________


........Bye........A2 (2) ________
D3 (15)________
E2 (18)________


........Bye........B3 (7) ________
........Bye........C2 (10)________


........Bye........A3 (3) ________
D2 (14)________
E3 (19)________


........Bye........B2 (6) ________
........Bye........C3 (11)________

[mixingitup15]

Haha...6 teams no show...that's hilarious...everyone is quick to call out all the dII teams not moving up for money or whatever reasons but 6 teams decide not to go to nattys. Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...

[UmmaDoMe23]

Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...


The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

[mustachemarty5]

Haha...6 teams no show...that's hilarious...everyone is quick to call out all the dII teams not moving up for money or whatever reasons but 6 teams decide not to go to nattys. Ya roller will be taken real serious pretty soon...

I agree, it's ridiculous that 6 teams are no shows. We play all year to hopefully get a shot at nationals. For 6 DI programs to just not come is unacceptable if we want this sport to grow. On the flip side, I believe every DII that got a bid is attending (or at least almost all of them, I'm not completely sure). I think this just goes to show that these top DII teams have their programs organized and well funded and that they are ready to make the jump.

DI needs these teams to be successful. Just look at all the sub-.500 teams in DI nationals. There are so many talented DII teams and I think that they would agree with me when I say they could beat a lot of DI teams. DI should try to involve every team and DII should just be a league for teams that are incapable of winning at the DI level or that truly can't raise funds to do some of the things DI do. Does that mean that your going to have losing seasons? Probably, but that's part of sports. The key is to work each year to finally bring your program to a level where it can play with and beat the top competition instead of beating up on inferior opponents.

I think it is in the best interest of the sport to have more teams make the jump to DI in order to increase the competition and to make sure all the best teams are going to nationals. I know the DII tournament is going to be very competitive, but I feel that if those 16 teams played DI this year instead, at least half of them would still be at nationals. And who knows, if we can get all the top competition in DI and leave DII for struggling teams, maybe more bids will open up. Even if they don't though, at least we'll get the top teams there.



And to comment on this years tournament, I was skeptical of the pool play at first, but now I think that this is actually a great idea. We have a basic idea of who the best teams are (that's why we played a regular season for 6 months). Instead of having top teams beat up on weak teams, why not see all the top competition play each other (it really doesn't count anyways since everyone makes the elimination bracket). I think it will be really exciting to see Lindenwood, UMSL, Michigan St, and Buffalo all play each other. This will be a great experience for everyone at the tournament. Going down the line, I think every game in every pool will be close because similar competition is grouped together. This will make the tournament more competitive and exciting. Plus, if one of the top 4 teams were to lose all 3 games (which has to happen barring a tie), they aren't punished because they still get the 4th overall seed. Overall, I really like the system used this year and think that they should keep this system moving forward because (a) it makes the every game closer and more exciting and (b) it gives meaning to the regular season. Good job to the NCRHA board!

[kevinsmithAZ]

The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

Totally agree man. However, the competition that 0-3 team faced was basically the 3 top teams in the country. At the same time I still don't like it.

[mustachemarty5]

The D1 set up is so mind boggling that I don't even know what to say. The NCRHA has really outdone themselves on this one. Teams can go 0-3 and get the #4 seed overall and a bye in the playoffs and other teams can go 3-0, just to be set up with brutal matchups in the playoffs.I've played travel roller hockey for 14 years and have never seen a setup as rediculous as this (and that's saying a lotttttt if you know the sport of travel roller hockey)

And the idea behind a team going 0-3 and getting the #4 seed is that they are playing the top teams in the tournament in pool play and they proved the last 6 months they are a top 4 team. They earned that seed through regular season play. A team that goes 3-0 and gets a "brutal match-up" gets that because of their regular season and the fact that they are playing weaker teams in pool play. To me it makes perfect sense. Pool play is simply just for seeding and to get everyone their moneys worth. No one wants to travel across the country for one game in an elimination bracket. The seeds (as far as 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-21) are essentially determined by each team's regular season results.

[kevinsmithAZ]

And the idea behind a team going 0-3 and getting the #4 seed is that they are playing the top teams in the tournament in pool play and they proved the last 6 months they are a top 4 team. They earned that seed through regular season play. A team that goes 3-0 and gets a "brutal match-up" gets that because of their regular season and the fact that they are playing weaker teams in pool play. To me it makes perfect sense. Pool play is simply just for seeding and to get everyone their moneys worth. No one wants to travel across the country for one game in an elimination bracket. The seeds (as far as 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-21) are essentially determined by each team's regular season results.

wow nailed it. I'm a big college basketball fan and didn't even see it.. nice.

[mustachemarty5]

wow nailed it. I'm a big college basketball fan and didn't even see it.. nice.

I think that's why a lot of people don't like it at first. If college basketball were to have all 64 teams meet up in the same place and have pool play, it would be just like having Kentucky, Syracuse, Kansas, and Duke in the same pool to decide who gets which region. One team would go 0-3, but after a strong regular season, they still deserve a top 4 seed.

[GoRangrHky]

Exactly. The reason that tournaments (Narch, Torhs, whoever) don't do it like this is because you have absolutely nothing to base it off of. These teams have played games all year against the same competition and have traveled to other regions to show exactly where they stand.

Those of you that have said it get it exactly right- the round robin games are just games to be played. It's almost as if the first two days don't really count, which is fine. After that, it's the same as every other college tournament- hockey, basketball, take your pick. The top teams are going to play the weak teams, and they should (theoretically) play each other in the end. This is actually the closest thing to an NCAA style bracket that we have ever had at the national championships.

And not one DII team can complain about the DI teams that got in, or even the ones that didn't go- you all had your opportunity to be there. The only reason some of these DI teams have bad records is because the level of competition they have to face every game.

There were a total of 9 running clock (8 goal differential) games in DI in the ECRHA this year. The whole season. Including preseason and playoffs. And 7 of them were won by Buffalo. The others were West Point-Rutgers and Penn State-Stony Brook.

There were 9 by November in DII. I counted 47 total, but I might have missed some. That's 47 out of 203 games played (including several forfeits). Nearly 1 in 4. DI was 9 out of 136.

I like the setup this year. Let's see how it turns out.

[CSteamer]

At First when looking at the pools, I was like WTF?..But thinking about it, it makes sense, and actually makes the regular season count for something.

[mixingitup15]

Nyr u have to be kidding me...there are 5 or 6 d1 teams going to nationals who wouldn't even be top 10 in d2. And I'm not saying d2 teams are right for staying down or so on....but seriously hofstra woul have the same recored in d2 that they had in d1. Ya they played better teams in d1, no...I don't agree with certain teams in d2 staying there...but I don't agree more with the fact that 6 terrible alternate teams are going to nationals...id rather see less teams go and make the series best of 3...

[mixingitup15]

Not to mention...I'm sorry but I think its just as bad for a team to move up to d1 that has no reason to be there (ie hofstra) than for nuemann to stay in d2.

[GoRangrHky]

What Hofstra games did you watch this year that makes you think they have no business in DI? And you know how to prove this?? MOVE UP TO DI! Pretty simple. DI is NOT about being good, it's about being organized, presentable, and representing what college roller hockey (and college sports in general) should be about.

And why exactly is it bad for a team to move up? Should we go back to the CRHL Elite style where only the top 6 teams are allowed to play each other?

[mixingitup15]

I agree that the top 6 d2 teams in ecrha should move up because all 6 are better than hofstra. And I'm sorry I agree that we wanna make college hockey legit. But I think the top teams need to play each other as much as much so yes. The ecrha should have two d1 divisions where the top 5 play eachother 3 times and then the other teams once. Otherwise its a waste of money. That's why I commend the d1 that are not going to nattys bc they don't have a chance at winning at all...how about all the teams outside top 10 max in d1 don't go to nationals and put all the money they would have into their program. Bc the only thing nattys is for the teams outside the top 6 iis a vacation with shinny games...

[hockeykid12]

Everyone needs to get off the Neumann train about d1 it's not happening plain and simple, it's the same bs every year on these boards about Neumann going up, yeah they prolly would be top 3 in the East in d1 but then again with the exception of buffalo, I think the top 4 teams of d2 would be top 4 in d1 but it's not happening so for these talks to continue is a waste.

[letsgoisles89]

Everyone needs to get off the Neumann train about d1 it's not happening plain and simple, it's the same bs every year on these boards about Neumann going up, yeah they prolly would be top 3 in the East in d1 but then again with the exception of buffalo, I think the top 4 teams of d2 would be top 4 in d1 but it's not happening so for these talks to continue is a waste.

if its just not going to happen - plain and simple, please do us a favor and enlighten the boards as to why not? if there was a legitimate reason that its not gonna happen, then maybe the bs would go away - if that's not the case, just live with the bs.

[hockeykid12]

if its just not going to happen - plain and simple, please do us a favor and enlighten the boards as to why not? if there was a legitimate reason that its not gonna happen, then maybe the bs would go away - if that's not the case, just live with the bs.

There is no one reason, i think that they are content in d2 and dont really have the talent pool to draw from to move onto d1. they arent winning every year and do not roll over there region either unlike the midwest where they only have 1 or 2 solid teams to play one another. unless the ncrha does make it a rule for teams to go up i dont see any east team moving up becuase the competition we have is more competitive than what would be seen in d1 in the east other than buff and maybe rhode island

[alex]

What's there to complain about here if you're in that top pool? Either, under the old format, you're in a pool with 3 weak teams you'll beat and you get a top 4 seed, or you get put in a pool with the other top 3 teams, you get to play teams at your level, and you still get a top 4 seed. So...you'd rather play brutal teams?

Same goes for teams in the bottom pool. You can either get put in a pool with 3 teams who will all beat you and then you'll get a bottom seed, or you can play the other bottom teams, play competitive games, then get a bottom seed still.

Playoff matchups remain generally the game. Now everyone plays competitive games. I play for ASU and I'm glad we're going there to play 3 really good teams as opposed to playing a pool with 1 good team, 1 decent team, and 1 bad team, only to get seeded in essentially the same spot. Better competition and still good playoff matchups. Makes perfect sense. It's just a very big change.

[FAUplayer]

I must say I am thorougly impressed thus far how the league has handled the schedule. This idea of how they seed and set up playoffs ls brilliant. It makes the regular worse something and is more valid than the seeding meeting. As per the teams not going, I don't blame the
Most of those teams are not top contenders, except maybe one, but with this economy there's no point in going unless your rich. I know for a fact, even though my fau team is seeded 6 and believe my team can pull off possibly one upset, if I knew the price overall per player before my manager already booked everything we would not be going to nationals. Bitch all you want at these teams for not going, but if you are not in their shoes reserve judgement. It is not a reflection of tge league based on teams economical situation. This is actually the first time I have sided with the league in an issue as important as nationals schedule. Stil excited to go, a kittle upset my Florida Atlantic team has to play against rhode island for tge third tine those season, but it's kind if nice actually knowing an opponent and having that respect for each other as they are a well organized coached class act program of the league.

[letsgoisles89]

unless the ncrha does make it a rule for teams to go up i dont see any east team moving up becuase the competition we have is more competitive than what would be seen in d1 in the east other than buff and maybe rhode island

that is comedy...doesn't even deserve a response.

[CSteamer]

I must say I am thorougly impressed thus far how the league has handled the schedule. This idea of how they seed and set up playoffs ls brilliant. It makes the regular worse something and is more valid than the seeding meeting. As per the teams not going, I don't blame the
Most of those teams are not top contenders, except maybe one, but with this economy there's no point in going unless your rich. I know for a fact, even though my fau team is seeded 6 and believe my team can pull off possibly one upset, if I knew the price overall per player before my manager already booked everything we would not be going to nationals. Bitch all you want at these teams for not going, but if you are not in their shoes reserve judgement. It is not a reflection of tge league based on teams economical situation. This is actually the first time I have sided with the league in an issue as important as nationals schedule. Stil excited to go, a kittle upset my Florida Atlantic team has to play against rhode island for tge third tine those season, but it's kind if nice actually knowing an opponent and having that respect for each other as they are a well organized coached class act program of the league.


Yea, its extremely expensive to get out there. We did have a really good fundraiser today at Publix and will be out there tomorrow too. We made about $1,000 today just asking for donations.

Good luck at nationals Phil.

[kleinberg13]

Any particular reason games only go until 6:30 pm on wed and thurs?

[NCSU17]

There is no one reason, i think that they are content in d2 and dont really have the talent pool to draw from to move onto d1. they arent winning every year and do not roll over there region either unlike the midwest where they only have 1 or 2 solid teams to play one another. unless the ncrha does make it a rule for teams to go up i dont see any east team moving up becuase the competition we have is more competitive than what would be seen in d1 in the east other than buff and maybe rhode island

lol you are ridiculous. Just admit Neumann enjoys playing weaker teams

[hockeykid12]

Obviously by the record neumann isn't that great, idk why they are consistantly pointed out when west Chester has been as good over the last few years yet nobody points them out. It's always Neumann, it's old everyone hop off.

[mustachemarty5]

There is no one reason, i think that they are content in d2 and dont really have the talent pool to draw from to move onto d1. they arent winning every year and do not roll over there region either unlike the midwest where they only have 1 or 2 solid teams to play one another. unless the ncrha does make it a rule for teams to go up i dont see any east team moving up becuase the competition we have is more competitive than what would be seen in d1 in the east other than buff and maybe rhode island

Haha, what a joke. Steamrolling teams that have trouble putting a decent group of players on the rink is the "better competition" I guess. Not DI where just about every game is competitive and many of the teams top to bottom are fairly equal. And I don't want to hear about records, actually go to the games and watch these teams play. I'm not saying DII doesn't have good teams, but they wouldn't be better than most of the DI teams.

I applaud teams like Stony Brook and Hofstra that have made the jump and anyone that thinks these teams don't belong in DI also don't know anything about these teams or about the DI program in general. These are two of the most respected teams in the country not only for the way they play, but also for the way they conduct themselves and run their programs. They work extremely hard and should be used as examples for DII programs who want to make the jump to DI and run their program more efficiently.

If DII teams want to stay there convinced that they have better competition, that's fine. But for those DII teams want to play up to the competition and become a more respected program, the door is always open. Instead of whining about "weak" teams going to nationals, why don't you do something about it.


As for not going to nationals, I sympathize with teams that can't afford it during tough economic times, but players shouldn't be paying for the whole trip out of pocket. Teams have to work hard to fundraise all year. We are club sports teams and it is our responsibility as student leaders to raise money to do big things like go to nationals. The season is so long and all year everyone is playing for one reason, to get to nationals to have a chance to win a national championship. To not show up because you think it's not worth it you don't feel like raising the funds is a terrible excuse. Also, I can't stand people who say it's a waste for everyone to go when its going to be the best teams in the end. I understand it's usually the same teams near the top for DI, but look back a few years back to when Buffalo was an okay team and Rhode Island wasn't very good. Now they are both top 8 teams and Buffalo has a legitimate chance to challenge for a championship. Hard work and years of commitment as a program is paying off.

Basically, I feel a lot of people lose sight of the big picture. Teams should want to compete at the top level against the best teams and try to win despite having the odds stacked against them. The journey players took to get to where they are when their careers are over are going to be far more memorable than any trophy. At least I know I went against the best and tried to beat the best instead of playing down to weaker teams...have fun with that.

[alex]

Any particular reason games only go until 6:30 pm on wed and thurs?

Rink wasn't made available to NCRHA at those times. That's why they had to start the tournament a day earlier this year.

[NCSU17]

Obviously by the record neumann isn't that great, idk why they are consistantly pointed out when west Chester has been as good over the last few years yet nobody points them out. It's always Neumann, it's old everyone hop off.

There are atleast 5 - 10 D2 teams that should move up. Neumann gets the attention because they have been more successful and organized than the other teams in the past 3 - 5 years.

[rollerRocket]

Why does every college thread turn into a "D2 Teams That Should Move Up" debate? Start a new thread and keep the discussion in there so I don't have to read it.

[mixingitup15]

ncstate,

so u want nuemann to do their part and move up. how bout you just worry about your team and accept your bid to nationals. if money was an issue from the start then you guys should have just played your regular season and thats it. why even bother playing if you arent gonna fulfill your obligations.

although i do agree certain just dont have the funding to go. i think we all need to realize it is what it is. college roller hockey is a club sport. we have regionals for a reason. set up regionals to make a 3 game final and only send one champion to nationals. you can argue all the points you want to $$$ but there is no reason why you cannot have a legitimate national championship tounry with a max of 8 d1 8 d2 and 4 d3. I mean seriously a B national championship. all the b division is for the $$$ for the NCRHA. you dont see JV national championships in NCAA.

[kevinsmithAZ]

you can argue all the points you want to $$$ but there is no reason why you cannot have a legitimate national championship tounry with a max of 8 d1 8 d2 and 4 d3. I mean seriously a B national championship. all the b division is for the $$$ for the NCRHA. you dont see JV national championships in NCAA.

That's a horrible argument. Some regions are stronger (a LOT stronger) than others and to only have one team represent each region wouldn't be fair to teams who play in stronger regions. If anything that would encourage teams to stay in DII.

And as for the B division, sorry but this isn't the NCAA. The B division serves a huge purpose as not just a feeder system but also to give more kids a chance to play. And just as a reference point, the ACHA (college club ice hockey) also lets schools' 2nd teams compete at Nationals.

[kleinberg13]

Most of the B teams that are going could beat a bunch of the D1 teams that are going.

[mixingitup15]

Ok well let's just invite every team to nationals...so then that way the nchra will collect all the team fees. Well maybe we should take the regional winners than have 3 maybe 4 max at large bids. I'm sorry if u can't beat the top team in the region what's the point of going to nationals to come in 2nd?

[GoRangrHky]

I don't know- why don't you ask UMSLs team from last year. As I recall, they finished second in their division behind Lindenwood, only to come home with a national championship.

[mustachemarty5]

That's a horrible argument. Some regions are stronger (a LOT stronger) than others and to only have one team represent each region wouldn't be fair to teams who play in stronger regions. If anything that would encourage teams to stay in DII.

And as for the B division, sorry but this isn't the NCAA. The B division serves a huge purpose as not just a feeder system but also to give more kids a chance to play. And just as a reference point, the ACHA (college club ice hockey) also lets schools' 2nd teams compete at Nationals.

I agree with this. The guys in the B division work hard all year to win too. While this division is used to develop players to one day make the top squad, it is also significant because it is still a highly competitive division and the players in it take a lot of pride in their play. They deserve a chance to showcase their talents on the national scene. Again, this isn't NCAA, it's a club sport and many students play each year and the players on B teams put all their efforts into winning at this level.

I don't know if they are better than most of the DI teams going though. The top B teams could probably beat some DI teams (ex. Lindenwood or Michigan St.) because they are a product of their programs being so solid top to bottom that they have such an influx of good players they it spills over into dominant B teams. But I'm not sure if most of the B teams going could beat DI teams. After playing in both leagues, there is an obvious difference in game speed and I'm sure if B teams played against DI teams all year, they could easily play at that speed, but if they were to play today, I would have to side with a DI team over a regular B team (I consider teams like Lindenwood are basically a second DI team).

[letsgoisles89]

Why does every college thread turn into a "D2 Teams That Should Move Up" debate? Start a new thread and keep the discussion in there so I don't have to read it.

http://elvis-pelt.com/wambulance.jpg

[NCSU17]

ncstate,

so u want nuemann to do their part and move up. how bout you just worry about your team and accept your bid to nationals. if money was an issue from the start then you guys should have just played your regular season and thats it. why even bother playing if you arent gonna fulfill your obligations.



Its a combination of $, our ability to compete, and the amount of school being missed. We play the regular season to judge where we are at. If we had felt that we would have been competitive at Nationals, we would probably would have not minded spending like $600 a guy to play. Unfortunately, we probably weren't a good enough team to really make a run. Myself and our goalie Bobby Child are also grad students, so missing 4 days of classes would be suicidal, and again, we would only have done it if we felt like we had a legit chance at being a top 4-8 team.

We hope next year to be able to be more competitive, but seeing as how we were the worst team in our region, we didn't feel like it would be smart for us to waste our funding for next year when we will very likely be more competitive then.

Teams like Neumann, Rowan, Brockport, Tampa, GVSU etc would all likely be very competitive at the national level.

[sid21]

Most of the B teams that are going could beat a bunch of the D1 teams that are going.

I've seen like 2/3 of the B teams going to nationals this year play. I've seen a good amount, maybe 15 of the D1 teams who are going. I'd like to know how many B teams would beat "a bunch" of D1 teams. Let's not get too excited with our bold statements here.

[mustachemarty5]

Its a combination of $, our ability to compete, and the amount of school being missed. We play the regular season to judge where we are at. If we had felt that we would have been competitive at Nationals, we would probably would have not minded spending like $600 a guy to play. Unfortunately, we probably weren't a good enough team to really make a run. Myself and our goalie Bobby Child are also grad students, so missing 4 days of classes would be suicidal, and again, we would only have done it if we felt like we had a legit chance at being a top 4-8 team.

We hope next year to be able to be more competitive, but seeing as how we were the worst team in our region, we didn't feel like it would be smart for us to waste our funding for next year when we will very likely be more competitive then.

I can agree with the missing class argument because we are going to school to be students first, hockey players second. As far as funding, you should really start from day one next year to get the money together by fundraising because nationals is the reason we play hockey all year. It is the greatest stage for college roller hockey. And I'm tired of hearing teams say that they won't be competitive. If you don't go, your right, you won't be competitive. But on top of that, go for the experience. Going to a national tournament is an amazing experience win or lose that you'll never forget. 23 teams will lose. It shouldn't stop teams from being competitive and trying to win. But like I said, they plan the tournament the week after spring break for most schools so it is tough to miss a week of class, especially for grad students. But if you plan on missing that week from day one and let your teachers know, I'm sure they could work with you (depending on your major).

[NCRHA]

FYI Texas A&M B has dropped out of the event. North Texas B, the 1st alternate, has accepted their bid and will take Texas A&M B's place. All changes have been made on the website.