top national games

[mixingitup15]

With nationals coming up...let's see if we can get a list of top games that have gone on...

The top of the list has to be a toss up of any game uc irvine played in 2008 when they were carried by a short bench or the umsl upset of lindenwood...

Other notables...

Msu and lindenwood in 2006 in nc...

Nuemann umsl 2005 in col

Stony brook 2007 national champs

Brockport umsl 2006- both teams had top end talent...

[William Bourque]

Towson vs Michigan State in 2006

[Patn Lawton]

Shippensburg Brockport 06 ;)

[mustachemarty5]

you guys want to start giving some brief brief summaries of these games for those of us who weren't there?

[kleinberg13]

you guys want to start giving some brief brief summaries of these games for those of us who weren't there?

I was just about to say the same thing. One game I would throw out there was last year in d2 first round elimination between truman state and tampa. Tampa was winning 5-2 going into the third and truman made it 5-5 within 3:30 of the period. Truman would then score a goal just after the buzzer went to end regulation. Tampa would win 6-5 about 10 minutes into the first ot on the power play.

[FudgeMan]

West Chester vs. Missouri State 2008 in Colorado. Playoff game not sure of the round but it went into 2 overtimes and west chester scored with about a minute left in the 2nd overtime. Final was 3-2. One of the best games I have ever seen.

[William Bourque]

Towson - Michigan State - 2006

I think it was a Final Four game. Game was tight in the first period, before Michigna State pulled away in the second. Towson scored 3 or 4 straight to get within one in the final minute of the game. Towson then took a bad penatly to end the game, but instead of giving up, they rallied and scored a Shorty.

Michigan State then went and scored on the PP in the final seconds of the game to win it. It was very exciting.

[William Bourque]

Shippensburg Brockport 06 ;)

Brockport scored 8 goals in 5 minutes in a 12-1 win.

[William Bourque]

West Chester vs. Missouri State 2008 in Colorado. Playoff game not sure of the round but it went into 2 overtimes and west chester scored with about a minute left in the 2nd overtime. Final was 3-2. One of the best games I have ever seen.

I remember waiting to play the game after this one and West Chester needing water. Shippensburg gave them some water bottles and won. Shippensburg beat Tampa in overtime to be in position to play the next game. Must be something in the water bottles.

However, the game was ended about a minute into the second overtime.

It was in the Final 16

[towson9]

Towson - Michigan State - 2006

I think it was a Final Four game. Game was tight in the first period, before Michigna State pulled away in the second. Towson scored 3 or 4 straight to get within one in the final minute of the game. Towson then took a bad penatly to end the game, but instead of giving up, they rallied and scored a Shorty.

Michigan State then went and scored on the PP in the final seconds of the game to win it. It was very exciting.

bourque i hate you lol .. you just brought back terrible memories...

[dan sangiorgio]

Uc riverside vs st Charles d3 championship was a great Game I think it was in north Carolina. Some games that i played were hofstra vs Neumann in the first Colorado and the umsl Neumann d2 championship

[mustachemarty5]

Uc riverside vs st Charles d3 championship was a great Game I think it was in north Carolina. Some games that i played were hofstra vs Neumann in the first Colorado and the umsl Neumann d2 championship

What about Hofstra vs Neumann in Regionals right before Colorado. That game was epic especially considering Hofstra was an underdog and Neumann was so favored. Neumann got Hofstra back at Nationals, but the Regionals tourny that year in the East was something else.

[Ben Lambert]

Uc riverside vs st Charles d3 championship was a great Game I think it was in north Carolina. Some games that i played were hofstra vs Neumann in the first Colorado and the umsl Neumann d2 championship

Which Neumann-UMSL game? There were 2 of them. Both were awesome games. The one in 04 was better. Dory Williams scores a hat trick with under 2 minutes left to break a 3-3 tie (as he's being tripped) I'll have to throw that one up on the internet. It was ridiculous. Gary Todd also missed about 3 or 4 wide open one timers that would've pushed the Knights over the top.

The rematch was also awesome. You guys owned that game, really wanted it. We didn't wake up til it was too late.

Greatest matchup that didn't happen was when Nattys were in STL and Stony Brook beat us in the final four or it would've been an UMSL-SLU matchup in St. Louis. That was when the teams were big rivals, too...

[dan sangiorgio]

I wasn't there for the first neumann umsl game but I did see the video of him scoring the game winner and it was a really awesome play.

[smiller]

bourque i hate you lol .. you just brought back terrible memories...

I second Geno on that. It was one of the worst calls I have ever seen in all of hockey.

[CraigBrodz]

If we are going to talk about regionals as well as nationals Neumann and Stony Brook D-2 ECRHA Final in 2007. In my opinion probably is the all time best NCRHA game. (and I do mean period) Im probably biased but being down 5-0 going into the third period against the defending national champs... to come all the way back tie it up win in overtime, and then run the table on the way to a national championship. Definatley classic. I would have to put it at or near the top with the UMSL upset of Lindenwood.

Craig Brodmerkel #31
Long Island 495ers
Stony Brook Univesity
SUNY Brockport

[RichardGraham]

The top of the list has to be a toss up of any game uc irvine played in 2008 when they were carried by a short bench or the umsl upset of lindenwood...

I've got a short memory... these work for me. Which game was the Miracle on Plastic? ;)

[Ben Lambert]

Obviously I am biased, but the #1 CRH game ever has to be UMSL upsetting LU for the National Championship last year. Nothing could possibly come close.

These are the top 3 of the ones that I personally played in at UMSL, I feel like they're all classic CRH games:

3. UMSL - Brockport 2006 Nationals http://powerplaystats.com/org/secrhl/game.php?game_id=66021 Another classic was the next game... (not in my world)

2.UMSL beats LU in Regionals 2007-2008:

A back and fourth game ends LU's 100+ game winning streak. (http://ncrha.org/article.php?article_id=52659)

1. Already mentioned UMSL-Neumann 4/18/04 http://powerplaystats.com/org/secrhl/game.php?game_id=3587

With games like this, is it any wonder I stretched college out for so long?

[dan sangiorgio]

As far as ecrha regional games The 06 brockport Neumann regional championship game was by far the best. Both teams played really well and really intense.i remember bauman didn't come of the rink for brockport once and he was still skating full speed at the end. We won 7-6 in a game that must have had 5 or 6 lead changes. That win gave us huge moment going into nationals

[danglsauce]

if we are talking ECRHA regional games then 2010 semis in the B division. UB down 7-3 with less than 8 minutes left and come back and win 8-7 and go on to beat Penn State in the finals to get a bid to Nattys.

[edwardscpslo]

Any game in my college roller hockey days (1995 to 2000) between UC Santa Barbara and Cal Poly SLO would fall in this category. That is just the typical rivalry. But the game that stands out (and if any UCSB alums from that time are reading this they will grit their teeth) was the game at Nationals in Ellenton, FL (at the Igloo) in April 2000. SLO and UCSB matched up in the Elite Eight and UCSB was definitely the front-runner. SLO won 3-2, but in watching the video you can see that SLO was definitely out-played, but UCSB hit 3 posts in that game.

Unfortunately there are not stats readily available for that game, but the shot count had to be at least 30-15 or something like that. What a fun (draining) game though!

[mixingitup15]

Are the Nuemann and Brockport teams of 2010 stronger than they were in 2006. this would be an easy comparison on whether or not they should have gone dI. looking at the stats it appears that both 2010 versions are more solid then the teams of the past. not sure why either team isnt in dI.

[jscotto]

I have not been behind the bench in several years but I do go to the ECRHA games regularly. The teams over the last 2-3 years have been quite good, with that being said ... the DII teams of 2006 would probable manhandle those of today. There was an excess of talent at that time in DII and that prompted most teams to stay there.

[mixingitup15]

Ok I highly doubt they would manhandle them...I don't see anyone on either of teams able to stop marriotti, klenk, shaw or masoccio...

[Patn Lawton]

Last year's Brockport team beat Brockport alumni losers 6-2...but I sniped both of Port's new goalies. So I am better than both current and former teams.

[mixingitup15]

Well this puts to rest the brockport team...obviously the 06 team couldn't hang with the current team....has there been any games like this from nuemann...

[hockeykid12]

mixingitup15, not to be rude, but how long have you been around? the neumann teams prior to this would stampede this years team. The neumann team that ran the table years ago would dominate any team out there today.

[mixingitup15]

My bad I wasn't saying that they were bad...sorry...I was just suprised to hear they would manhandle the current teams. We had someone say the 06 brockport and nuemann team would manhandle the 2010 teams yet the current brockport team clearly beat the alumni...

[NCSU17]

mixingitup15, not to be rude, but how long have you been around? the neumann teams prior to this would stampede this years team. The neumann team that ran the table years ago would dominate any team out there today.

then why were they D2?

[GSJaguars11]

Ok I highly doubt they would manhandle them...I don't see anyone on either of teams able to stop marriotti, klenk, shaw or masoccio...

weren't mariotti and klenk on those teams?

[Patn Lawton]

My bad I wasn't saying that they were bad...sorry...I was just suprised to hear they would manhandle the current teams. We had someone say the 06 brockport and nuemann team would manhandle the 2010 teams yet the current brockport team clearly beat the alumni...

I am assuming everyone knew I was joking when I was using that as a form of measurement. A current team beating half a roster of out of shape old guys isn't really a good way to figure out who is better. We need a hot tub time machine.

[William Bourque]

Personally, I think that the 2006 Neumann team was vastly superior to the current Neumann team. One thing you have to realize, is that Klenk and Marriotti were on both teams. If either one of them are on here, I believe they could give a more accurate opinion than I could.

[mixingitup15]

ok so its settled i just wanted to get a comparison on where the skill level is now compared to the past. nuemann must have been very strong...sorry for making it sound like i was bashing it wasnt meant to be that way at all...just seeing how some of the stronger teams from the past matched up against the current to see if there should be a move to D1. brockport and nuemann seem to be very strong this year and brockport ran the table till regionals...

[William Bourque]

ok so its settled i just wanted to get a comparison on where the skill level is now compared to the past. nuemann must have been very strong...sorry for making it sound like i was bashing it wasnt meant to be that way at all...just seeing how some of the stronger teams from the past matched up against the current to see if there should be a move to D1. brockport and nuemann seem to be very strong this year and brockport ran the table till regionals...

Trust me, that in no way discredits the teams this year. It's just hard to compare unless you played/watched. Having seen nearly every game played in the ECRHA over the past 3 season, and a good majority of them the 2 years before that, I feel I have a pretty decent figure on that.

[mixingitup15]

Thanks and that's why I was asking....I saw the interegionals in va and couldn't imagine any of those past teams having better players then klenk marrioti shaw and masocio and even brockjports goalie...I understand klenk and marrioti were on the past teams but now they are srs and I'm sure much better than 4 years ago...

[dan sangiorgio]

Believe it or not brockport had a goalie as good maybe even better in 06. Neumann also had cramer in net in 06 someone they have yet to replace since he graduated. I may be bias being that I played for the 06 team but excluding Klenk and Dom since they were on that team I can see only two maybe three other guys from this years team even being able make the team back in 06 or 07

[hockeykid12]

Believe it or not brockport had a goalie as good maybe even better in 06. Neumann also had cramer in net in 06 someone they have yet to replace since he graduated. I may be bias being that I played for the 06 team but excluding Klenk and Dom since they were on that team I can see only two maybe three other guys from this years team even being able make the team back in 06 or 07

Obviously Neumann replaced cramer jst fine if they were able to go undefeated two years ago and that was without him I believe

[sanford]

I didn't get to any neumann games this year but our 06 team was stacked. We probably would have been one of the best D1 teams too. Best team we had at neumann of the 4 years i was there and we made the championship game at NCTs the previous 3 years in a row. I went from being a top player in 05 to donahue's sidekick in 06.

Freshman class was unreal that year. Mariotti, Klenk, Geirsbach, Donahue.

The stats for Klenk and Mariotti can be misleading because I'm sure their playing time is much higher now than it was in 06. We rolled 3 lines the whole season.

And neumann umsl in 04 was the best game i've been a part of at nationals. Penalty shot, williams scoring while doing a front flip, great game. I thought we had that one.

[warwick]

most people don't realise klenk was on the third line his freshman year. i think the 06 neumann team was also more focused based upon the sour taste of losing the year before to SLU. by 06 donahue and mariotti learned and understood the proper way to kill penalties and along with scotto the penalty kill was unbelievable

[sanford]

Klenk was on the 3rd line his freshman year and almost didn't make the team because i don't think he ever played roller before tryouts and had a tough time skating. By the end of the first semester he was he terminator. We planned on having him and some other kid battle it out for the last spot at the preseason tourny. The other kid quit because i think he realized what he was up against.

Neumann lost to SLU in 07. 06 was mariotti, klenk and donahues freshman year. Talent wise I think the team in 07 was better than the 06 team. They lost me and brooks in 06 and in 07 they got white and cras back and picked up lamont. I don't know what happened in that SLU game. I was pretty suprised.

[GoRangrHky]

We probably would have been one of the best D1 teams too.

And yet, they still refused to move up....

[jscotto]

...and yet you still refuse to let it go. AJ, that was a long time ago and things are VERY different now... it is water under the bridge, time to move on.

[jscotto]

Sanford... only you guys thought that, Robbie and I already had him picked.

[jscotto]

Sanford:

Num Name GP G A PTS PPG SHG GWG
81 Scotto 30 48 28 76 8 8 4
17 Donohue,30 37 26 63 16 2 4
7 Klenk 30 42 10 52 6 0 5
21 Sanford 30 24 14 38 11 0 3

That's one hell of a "side kick"... you can be my wing-man anytime!

[mixingitup15]

Just not sure I agree. The current teams seem much stronger and deeper. Judt glancing at their shcedule nuemann in 06 struggled with duquesne, shipp, brockport and west chester.And brockport team is much stronger now than as well as west chester. Simply saying id take marriotti and klenk 2010 vs. Any 2 guys from the 2006 team. And same with brockport and west chester their top 4 now would manhandle the previous wcu and brockport teams.

[William Bourque]

Just not sure I agree. The current teams seem much stronger and deeper. Judt glancing at their shcedule nuemann in 06 struggled with duquesne, shipp, brockport and west chester.And brockport team is much stronger now than as well as west chester. Simply saying id take marriotti and klenk 2010 vs. Any 2 guys from the 2006 team. And same with brockport and west chester their top 4 now would manhandle the previous wcu and brockport teams.


Trust me, those teams you listed would have beat their current counterparts without too much of a problem.

Ship in 2006 had probably one of the best players in the league playing for them.

Duquesne had a lethal 1-2 punch in Joyce and Culbertson, those two just scored a redic amount of point.

Brockport made the final four with Bauman.

Neumann had Scotto, who's career numbers, 192 goals and 160 assists for 352 points are still the best ever in the ECRHA in DII.

Neumann also started the regular season with 5 consecutive shutouts before Ship finally scored a goal against them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWqdjlya0k
The one and only time I had the puck and Scotto didn't immediately take it from me...

[Alex Kozik]

Just not sure I agree. The current teams seem much stronger and deeper. Judt glancing at their shcedule nuemann in 06 struggled with duquesne, shipp, brockport and west chester.And brockport team is much stronger now than as well as west chester. Simply saying id take marriotti and klenk 2010 vs. Any 2 guys from the 2006 team. And same with brockport and west chester their top 4 now would manhandle the previous wcu and brockport teams.

Neumann 2006 team was better than Neumann 2010
West Chester 2010 team is better than West Chester 2006

Case closed, thanks for your participation.

[hockeykid12]

I agre with alex, I would say that the older Neumann teams were so good that no team will be as good as they were for awhile, but the wcu team and Neumann team Now are a lot clloser in level now then before

[Ben Lambert]

I didn't get to any neumann games this year but our 06 team was stacked. We probably would have been one of the best D1 teams too. Best team we had at neumann of the 4 years i was there and we made the championship game at NCTs the previous 3 years in a row. I went from being a top player in 05 to donahue's sidekick in 06.

Freshman class was unreal that year. Mariotti, Klenk, Geirsbach, Donahue.

The stats for Klenk and Mariotti can be misleading because I'm sure their playing time is much higher now than it was in 06. We rolled 3 lines the whole season.

And neumann umsl in 04 was the best game i've been a part of at nationals. Penalty shot, williams scoring while doing a front flip, great game. I thought we had that one.

So did I. Gary Todd missed 3 one timers at an open net. Neumann got us back a few years later, but that whole tournament was insane for UMSL. We beat UTD with a goal with about 5 seconds left on the clock, beat Maine who had beat us in the round robin (the Maine of old: crazy, red bull bonging, eye of the tiger singing), the stars aligned for us that year.

I watched that game with one of the guys on my team this year. Still gives me goosebumps to watch it. We're planning a reunion of the 04 guys at some point, should be pretty fun. We've all stayed in touch except for Dory, who moved out to Oakland and has never been heard from again.

Probably more info than you needed to know, but yeah, I could and should write a book about that group of guys. What a gongshow.

[jscotto]

Neumann 2006 team was better than Neumann 2010
West Chester 2010 team is better than West Chester 2006


Yes Alex you are right...but the best WCU team was 2008, no question about it!

[mixingitup15]

not quite sure nuemann '06 is as dominant as everyone is saying...they were 1-0-1 against a subpar shipp team, 0-1 vs. a weak Maine team and 1-1-1 vs. and semi strong brockport team. where is the domination. im sorry i would still take the 2010 teams of almost all the ecrha vs the old. hell u could even make an all star team of brockport, nuemann, west chester and rowan from 2010 and they would easily handle the 2006 version from the same teams minus rowan bc they didnt have a team. just looking back.

2010

Klenk
Marriotti
Shaw
Chappius
Masocco
Keene
Jones
Amand

Keyes

2006

Scotto
Donohue
Bauman
Marvin
Giersbach
Sanford
Sangorgio
Pederson

Cramer

Yea ok ur telling me the "06 version would win..your out of your mind.

[warwick]

not quite sure nuemann '06 is as dominant as everyone is saying...they were 1-0-1 against a subpar shipp team, 0-1 vs. a weak Maine team and 1-1-1 vs. and semi strong brockport team. where is the domination. im sorry i would still take the 2010 teams of almost all the ecrha vs the old. hell u could even make an all star team of brockport, nuemann, west chester and rowan from 2010 and they would easily handle the 2006 version from the same teams minus rowan bc they didnt have a team. just looking back.

2010

Klenk
Marriotti
Shaw
Chappius
Masocco
Keene
Jones
Amand

Keyes

2006

Scotto
Donohue
Bauman
Marvin
Giersbach
Sanford
Sangorgio
Pederson

Cramer

Yea ok ur telling me the "06 version would win..your out of your mind.
first of all did u ever hear of teams not getting up against "subpar" teams, if u play sports then u should know about it. also the old neumann teams coaches did not allow them to run up the scores, also gave extended playing time to the guys that didn't get much playing time. you also left dom and steve off of the 06 team. just looking at stats will never give u a correct idea. listen to the peole who saw those teams play.

[sanford]

Never mind. Good luck at nationals this year everyone.

[dan sangiorgio]

Mixitup I think you are missing the point nobody is saying that the teams this year don't have some really good players but the teams overall are just no where as good. Just look at neumanns top line Klenk lucente Cras marrioti All solid butafter that what? Seems to be the same with brockport bauman and Marvin may be the same talent level of brockports guys now but in 06 they had about 3 or 4 other guys who had some cannons. Also if you were gonna make these allstars teams from each year west Chester was about the 10th best ecrha team in 06 so u couldn't include them it was 07 and 08 when dub c got there influx of talent. Hofstra with mosenson and virone were probably thrid best 06 team

[mariotti07]

....on my team for 3 years Dan, and you still can not spell my name correctly? p.s. I'm wearing your favorite skates out in CA, Peanut butter colored Quads with the stopper in front haha:eek:

[Hockey Coach]

Mixitup I think you are missing the point nobody is saying that the teams this year don't have some really good players but the teams overall are just no where as good. Just look at neumanns top line Klenk lucente Cras marrioti All solid butafter that what? Seems to be the same with brockport bauman and Marvin may be the same talent level of brockports guys now but in 06 they had about 3 or 4 other guys who had some cannons. Also if you were gonna make these allstars teams from each year west Chester was about the 10th best ecrha team in 06 so u couldn't include them it was 07 and 08 when dub c got there influx of talent. Hofstra with mosenson and virone were probably thrid best 06 team

Hey Dan - Neumann has a solid 2nd line as well. Don't forget about Saraceni; Struble ; Haswell ; Germaine also they have KEYSTONE with Brown and A.Scott and you can't forget the Schmucker.

Maybe after Natts you can play in an iron-man with you and 3 of your pals from back in the day vs Neumann's 1st line of 2010. :D

[mixingitup15]

Please take prop bets...ill take nuemann '10 top 4 vs. any previous top 4 as well as brockport and west chester all 2010 winners....

[towson9]

if you are adding regionals too the 2004-2005 ecrha d1 semis towson vs rhode island

towson came in trying to defend their regional championship from the year before and rhode island always played us tough. they were up 4-2 with about 1:30 left in the game. we ended up scoring 3 goals in the final 1:30 i think the go ahead with about 30 seconds left to eventually win in regulation 5-4.

we than went onto win the championship again for the 2nd straight year.

that semifinal was a great game though.

[dan sangiorgio]

nobody scores a penalty shot with keystone patrolling the rink

[Patn Lawton]

not quite sure nuemann '06 is as dominant as everyone is saying...they were 1-0-1 against a subpar shipp team, 0-1 vs. a weak Maine team and 1-1-1 vs. and semi strong brockport team. where is the domination. im sorry i would still take the 2010 teams of almost all the ecrha vs the old. hell u could even make an all star team of brockport, nuemann, west chester and rowan from 2010 and they would easily handle the 2006 version from the same teams minus rowan bc they didnt have a team. just looking back.

2010

Klenk
Marriotti
Shaw
Chappius
Masocco
Keene
Jones
Amand

Keyes

2006

Scotto
Donohue
Bauman
Marvin
Giersbach
Sanford
Sangorgio
Pederson

Cramer

Yea ok ur telling me the "06 version would win..your out of your mind.

I think that Shrauger, the DII nationals MVG in 06 would start over Cramer...not that Cramer wasn't solid also.

[show2606]

and i think Lawton would shut that Shaw kid down. Totally overrated.

[Patn Lawton]

and i think Lawton would shut that Shaw kid down. Totally overrated.

This is a given...where is my tshirt?