DII Nationals

[show2606]

The conversation is going to start sooner or later so I might as well get the ball rolling...Which DII teams deserve to go to nationals and how many teams from each region deserve to go?

[hockeykid12]

I think it should be the best, no so so teams unless of course there is an upset at regionals.

Rowan
Brockport
WCU
Neumann
shippensburg
temple
GVS
Missori State
Tampa
GMU
Cincy
Denver
Stephen F Austin
California


not sure if thats to many or not enough, but out of the East its stronger than normal, so i think they will get the most bids.

[BEEZERAL]

You got room for 2 more teams

[MIDWESTCLAPPER]

I think that the other two will be

Miami

Saint Louis

Possibly UC San Diego.

Temple looks to be ify. Most bids will come out of the ECRHA no doubt at that but for the league to take 6 might be a stretch. Maybe 5 most. So it would come down to Temple and Shippensburg.

[GSJaguars11]

all the ecrha teams you picked are playing this weekend

[show2606]

it's too bad the top 4 from ECRHA didn't get a chance to play grand valley. Any word on the schedule in virgina? It would be stupid if ECRHA teams end up playing each other down there. I hope thats not the case.

[Chapwi]

all the ecrha teams you picked are playing this weekend

Everyone but WCU. But yes should be a good weekend to see how the top 4 finish out. and also a chance to see temple vs Shipp.

[GSJaguars11]

my prediction is temple 5-2

[Chapwi]

And Rowan Brockport Neumann predictions?

[chickentender65]

outta the SECRHL, its gotta be GMU, Tampa, and Miami. Miami looked real good this weekend and UT and GMU has proved themselves enough throughout the entire season. They are all really good teams.

[GSJaguars11]

And Rowan Brockport Neumann predictions?

haha well if neumann has a full team i'll say 6-4 brockport. If neumann is missing people i predict brockport 5 neumann 2. i like that score i guess.. cant predict with my own team.

[hockeykid12]

I think this is a big weekend for the three teams. Brockport is good but this is by far their toughest weekend. Neumann needs to beat a good team. Rowan idk much on them.
But preseason Neumann beat Brockport and seemed to get better this semester. then again Rowan also beat neumann. I think its wide open, should be a good scoreboard watching weekend.

[Tourhockeykid89]

^Disagree^ with gsjags11

[Tourhockeykid89]

brockport defeats rowan?

[William Bourque]

This weekend in Harrisburg should be fun for all of those involved.

Rumor has it that Kevin Murphy will be putting a skiing demo on at Round Top of Friday night for those of you interested. (Pictures will be on facebook).

[GSJaguars11]

^Disagree^ with gsjags11

i havent seen brockport play since preseason so thats pretty much just a random guess

[BEEZERAL]

I haven't seen any of the ECRHA except D1 rhode island this weekend but I can't see one conference getting 1/3 of the bids to nationals. How do the D2 teams compare to URI

[show2606]

The ECRHA DII all star team beat the DI all star team 8-5 if that helps

[hockeykid12]

other than the one or two top teams in other conferences, the East has the better overall league

[show2606]

And who at this point should we assume are absolute locks for nationals and who is still on the bubble? I think the top 4 from ECRHA should be locks and probably Grand Valley, Tampa, cincy, GMU, Cali, Stephen F. Austin, and maybe missouri although there are a handful of teams withing striking distance of the top spot in the great plains.

[Jkahn09]

everyone is on the GMU hype. They are overrated and really have only one one big game all year. Wait till they play real teams

[BEEZERAL]

All star games mean absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure that the ecrha does not have D1 teams playing d2 teams like in the secrhl but I'm sure d2 teams have compared themselves to a top d1 team like URI.

I can see that the ecrha is the best overall conference and deserves a good amount of bids. But 6?

16 teams go to nationals with 7 teams getting in for winning their conference. That leaves 9 at large bids. Do you honestly believe that the ecrha deserves 5 of 9 at large bids. That's crazy. From the secrhl gmu and UT are locks to go to nationals but what about UM with a 13-3 record and a win over top ranked UCF? What about ecu who is 9-3 with 4 games left. You could very easily make the case that UM deserves a bid as well making 3 teams for the secrhl leaving 2 at large bids for the other 5 conferences?

[hockeykid12]

other than brockport and wcu i would say those are locks. Neumann gets it rough becasue they had to play WCU two times second game was drastically closer than the first from the looks of it. But rowan and neumann i think still need to prove something niether have beaten a great team yet, Brockport will get one by default even thou there record right now is a little decieve, albiet a huge win over WCU but they played none of the other two top teams until this wkend. I think its safe to say WCU is the team to beat in the country

[Chapwi]

other than brockport and wcu i would say those are locks. Neumann gets it rough becasue they had to play WCU two times second game was drastically closer than the first from the looks of it. But rowan and neumann i think still need to prove something niether have beaten a great team yet, Brockport will get one by default even thou there record right now is a little decieve, albiet a huge win over WCU but they played none of the other two top teams until this wkend. I think its safe to say WCU is the team to beat in the country

I completely agree with Brockport having a weak schedule thus far BESIDES the WCU game. And seeing as how they are unbeaten and BEAT WCU im not sure it "safe" to say WCU is the best in the nation. But yes alot will be told after this weekend with Brockport Neumann and Rowan matchups.

[FAUplayer]

everyone is on the GMU hype. They are overrated and really have only one one big game all year. Wait till they play real teams

GMU is a good team. Do I think they are the best in SECRHL, though going against what I stated months ago, I think Tampa and UM will beat them at regional (I know that GMU has already beaten UM, but theres a big difference between 1st and 2nd semester play). GMU did beat FAU early in the season, in which FAU was missing players and had an injured line up, so it shows they can play. George Mason plays a very defensive game and has a good tender in net, but I think the offensive power from Tampa and Miami will be over bearing for them. Those are definitely games I will be watching at Regional.

[Chapwi]

GMU is a good team. Do I think they are the best in SECRHL, though going against what I stated months ago, I think Tampa and UM will beat them at regional (I know that GMU has already beaten UM, but theres a big difference between 1st and 2nd semester play). GMU did beat FAU early in the season, in which FAU was missing players and had an injured line up, so it shows they can play. George Mason plays a very defensive game and has a good tender in net, but I think the offensive power from Tampa and Miami will be over bearing for them. Those are definitely games I will be watching at Regional.

The Virginia Inter-Regional will be a really good test to see exactly how good GMU is on a National scale, when they get a chance to play some of the top teams from the east. I believe Rowan Neumann and Brockport are attending. I could see GMU dropping all three if those matchups happen. Although i have never seen them play (other than youtube)

[Patn Lawton]

everyone is on the GMU hype. They are overrated and really have only one one big game all year. Wait till they play real teams

I played at Brockport for six years and currently play AIHL with a lot of GMU guys. Take my opinion for what its worth, but they have some talented guys and can definitely compete in DII. They will be playing Brockport among other ECRHA teams in a cross-regional event in a few weekends which will be fun to watch.

[show2606]

I don't think ECRHA should get 6 bids. 5 at most and that may even be pushing it. Only sending three last year was a joke but this year there is a large gap between the top four and the rest of the field in my opinion. Sending any less than 4 would not be right. And as far as GMU goes, I'm sure they have some talented players, but when is the last time you saw Brockports players(in a serious game) now that you live down there?

[Patn Lawton]

I don't think ECRHA should get 6 bids. 5 at most and that may even be pushing it. Only sending three last year was a joke but this year there is a large gap between the top four and the rest of the field in my opinion. Sending any less than 4 would not be right. And as far as GMU goes, I'm sure they have some talented players, but when is the last time you saw Brockports players(in a serious game) now that you live down there?

I played against them in a tournament last year in New York. Granted it was not the most competitive thing and it was a bport alumni team playing against them, but they are definitely talented.

ECRHA always used to send 6 teams out of the 16 bids to nationals. I remember going there as the 6th team out of ECRHA to Colorado one year, we went undefeated in round robin (1 win, 2 ties) and then lost in an elimination game 3-1 (empty net). Point being ECRHA usually has the depth to send 6 teams, but it appears other regions competitiveness in DII has grown over the past few years.

[BEEZERAL]

I played against them in a tournament last year in New York. Granted it was not the most competitive thing and it was a bport alumni team playing against them, but they are definitely talented.

ECRHA always used to send 6 teams out of the 16 bids to nationals. I remember going there as the 6th team out of ECRHA to Colorado one year, we went undefeated in round robin (1 win, 2 ties) and then lost in an elimination game 3-1 (empty net). Point being ECRHA usually has the depth to send 6 teams, but it appears other regions competitiveness in DII has grown over the past few years.

it used to be 20 teams to Nationals

[Patn Lawton]

it used to be 20 teams to Nationals

The season I am thinking about there was only 16, then it went to 20, now I think it is back to 16?

Also I wanted to say I think it is great there has been so much cross-regional action this year, which hopefully makes the bidding process easier and more "fair" if that is possible. We all know the line is drawn somewhere and teams will be left out that feel they deserve a bid.

[BEEZERAL]

The season I am thinking about there was only 16, then it went to 20, now I think it is back to 16?

Also I wanted to say I think it is great there has been so much cross-regional action this year, which hopefully makes the bidding process easier and more "fair" if that is possible. We all know the line is drawn somewhere and teams will be left out that feel they deserve a bid.

Im sure this board will be a ton of fun on March 2nd

[catch]

Its Missouri State not Missouri. Mizzou is the school which ducks playing Missouri State in most sports (not roller hockey). I mean not disrespect to anyone who would look at the Great Plains standings, but the standings are deceptively closer than reality. The schedules are weighted differently, i.e., Illinois has played a pretty weak schedule, thus although they sit in third they are not as strong as So. Ill. Edwardsville, nor Missouri S & T. In actuality right now Missouri State and Saint Louis U. are clearly 1 and 2 in the league and not necessarily in any order. Missouri S & T has clearly earned the next spot and SIU-E is the other team at that level. Illinois is 8-4-2, but 1-4-0 against the above 4 teams beating only Missouri S & T. They are 7-0-1 against teams under .500 and 1-4-1 against teams over .500. Not to pick on Illinois, but this exemplifies the weighted schedule.

it used to be 20 teams to Nationals


And who at this point should we assume are absolute locks for nationals and who is still on the bubble? I think the top 4 from ECRHA should be locks and probably Grand Valley, Tampa, cincy, GMU, Cali, Stephen F. Austin, and maybe missouri although there are a handful of teams withing striking distance of the top spot in the great plains.

[show2606]

I played against them in a tournament last year in New York. Granted it was not the most competitive thing and it was a bport alumni team playing against them, but they are definitely talented.

ECRHA always used to send 6 teams out of the 16 bids to nationals. I remember going there as the 6th team out of ECRHA to Colorado one year, we went undefeated in round robin (1 win, 2 ties) and then lost in an elimination game 3-1 (empty net). Point being ECRHA usually has the depth to send 6 teams, but it appears other regions competitiveness in DII has grown over the past few years.

The team you played against in Syracuse last year went 11-3-4 with 91GF and 46GA. This years team has 5 returning skaters and 6 new skaters. TOTALLY different team. Compare last years numbers to this year 14-0-0 with 132GF and 24GA to this point

[Jkahn09]

GMU has four good players who can be shut down, and a goalie who hasn't really been tested. When my ****ty team FSU played them it was our first game, and they should have dominated us and only beat us 8-4 scoring two late in the game. GMU isn't any better than Kennesaw, which means in the SECRHL these teams are good, but on a national scale they're going to get worked. We'll see what happens when they play a real team this weekedn.

[FAUplayer]

GMU has four good players who can be shut down, and a goalie who hasn't really been tested. When my ****ty team FSU played them it was our first game, and they should have dominated us and only beat us 8-4 scoring two late in the game. GMU isn't any better than Kennesaw, which means in the SECRHL these teams are good, but on a national scale they're going to get worked. We'll see what happens when they play a real team this weekedn.

I was at that game, and you failed to mention that Jordan Pohl was in net for the first two periods, and their back up goalie was in net for the 3rd period, the period your FSU team scored all their goals. Pohl is a very good goalie. So with the full George Mason team, it was 6-0 after two periods, than they "threw in the towel" by putting their other goalie in for playing time. When it comes down to it, the only teams in D2 that can compete at nationals will be UM UT and GMU. Having Kennesaw last season get a bid to Nationals was a bit of a joke; they were not competitive at all at nationals.

[hockey1]

If GMU loses all of their games to the ECRHA next weekend and loses to Tampa or Miami at regionals in the finals or semi finals but win the rest of their games, do they still deserve a bid to nationals??

[Patn Lawton]

The team you played against in Syracuse last year went 11-3-4 with 91GF and 46GA. This years team has 5 returning skaters and 6 new skaters. TOTALLY different team. Compare last years numbers to this year 14-0-0 with 132GF and 24GA to this point

Good stats! I look forward to seeing them play down here in VA in a few weekends. I think a lot of the questions everyone is asking about different teams will be answered by the end of the regular season with all the great match-ups coming up.

[BEEZERAL]

If GMU loses all of their games to the ECRHA next weekend and loses to Tampa or Miami at regionals in the finals or semi finals but win the rest of their games, do they still deserve a bid to nationals??

Thats a little bold, thats a lot of losses for a team that is pretty solid. It will be very interesting to see how ready they are for next weekend. They played a lot of games early in the season and did catch FAU shorthanded and UM in its first game of the season, but a win is a win. If they were to somehow lose 4 in a row in the ECRHA and lose to UM or UT in Regionals I believe they would still get a bid to nationals due to their strong record

[Chapwi]

GMU has four good players who can be shut down, and a goalie who hasn't really been tested. When my ****ty team FSU played them it was our first game, and they should have dominated us and only beat us 8-4 scoring two late in the game. GMU isn't any better than Kennesaw, which means in the SECRHL these teams are good, but on a national scale they're going to get worked. We'll see what happens when they play a real team this weekedn.

Who do they play this weekend? or were you refering to the inter regional next weekend?

[GMULensing7]

I was at that game, and you failed to mention that Jordan Pohl was in net for the first two periods, and their back up goalie was in net for the 3rd period, the period your FSU team scored all their goals. Pohl is a very good goalie. So with the full George Mason team, it was 6-0 after two periods, than they "threw in the towel" by putting their other goalie in for playing time. When it comes down to it, the only teams in D2 that can compete at nationals will be UM UT and GMU. Having Kennesaw last season get a bid to Nationals was a bit of a joke; they were not competitive at all at nationals.

haha jkahn09...that wasnt even someone on GMU telling you that you are wrong. and yes we did throw in the towel because we didnt want to run the score up...and if i remember you guys scored a goal off one of your players faces.

and to answer the questions about FAU and Miami, FAU would probably beat us if we played again because we did catch them when they were short on their roster, plus our goalie did play outstanding that game. but although Miami did have a great offense, their defense wasnt very strong. plus they were practically in the box the whole game...

and i have no idea who we are playing this weekend, but i think its all ecrha teams. just glad we are going to be playing on a rink that you can actually get up to speed in. tired of small rinks like the supergoose...

[Jkahn09]

We'll see what happens in VA when they are facing the ECHRA teams. REgardless they haven't faced Tampa and played Miami in their first games. I think that the two teams in the finals this year at regionals(SECRHL) should get the bids, how you do in the reg season just secures you a spot in the playoffs. the final two advance to the nationals.

[PureHockey111]

We'll see what happens in VA when they are facing the ECHRA teams. REgardless they haven't faced Tampa and played Miami in their first games. I think that the two teams in the finals this year at regionals(SECRHL) should get the bids, how you do in the reg season just secures you a spot in the playoffs. the final two advance to the nationals.

I don't see GMU finishing outside of the top two in Regionals. As i plan on winning it.

Ignore my brother GMULensing7, as i have full faith we'd beat FAU again.

Cameron Lensing #11
GMU.

[GMULensing7]

I don't see GMU finishing outside of the top two in Regionals. As i plan on winning it.

Ignore my brother GMULensing7, as i have full faith we'd beat FAU again.

Cameron Lensing #11
GMU.

Purehockey111 get some hands and then come see me. all you do is sit the bench and collect dust every game...

[Patn Lawton]

Both Lensings fear me on the rink.

[PureHockey111]

Purehockey111 get some hands and then come see me. all you do is sit the bench and collect dust every game...

How drew lensing benefits GMU. Gets a 10 minute misconduct vs FAU and watches us score three goals against them while he does nothing.

Sorry about last practice, next time i'm out ill buy you some new ankles.

[GMULensing7]

How drew lensing benefits GMU. Gets a 10 minute misconduct vs FAU and watches out score three goals against them while he does nothing.

Sorry about last practice, next time i'm out ill buy you some new ankles.

sir you do nothing on the powerplay but put it upper glass. so if you are a goalie on another team shorthanded against us, and cam gets it on the wing for the powerplay...take a water break

and i do fear pat lawton, that guy is vicious, downright dirty

[PureHockey111]

Piha Nationals. Overtime. Drew lensing breakaway. Owned the goalie (ill give you that). Open net. Hit the post. We lose. BENDER.

[GMULensing7]

Piha Nationals. Overtime. Drew lensing breakaway. Owned the goalie (ill give you that). Open net. Hit the post. We lose. BENDER.

i blame rocket puck...

[FAUplayer]

I don't see GMU finishing outside of the top two in Regionals. As i plan on winning it.

Ignore my brother GMULensing7, as i have full faith we'd beat FAU again.

Cameron Lensing #11
GMU.

You lost to NC State, we dominated them 10-2 and 5-2 ;) It hurts having 6 people on your bench first weekend.

All kidding aside, I think it would be a damn good game. Too bad you guys never come down south for tournaments where you can play the better teams more often (FAU UCF UM and UT) . Your so far north why do you even bother with the SECHRL, the ECRHA is better.

[William Bourque]

and i have no idea who we are playing this weekend, but i think its all ecrha teams. just glad we are going to be playing on a rink that you can actually get up to speed in. tired of small rinks like the supergoose...


Not playing ECRHA teams this weekend, that is next weekend.

ECRHA Schedule for this weekend:
http://ecrha.net/schedule.php?event_id=1031

Huge DII games with tons of nationals implications.

[PureHockey111]

You lost to NC State, we dominated them 10-2 and 5-2 ;) It hurts having 6 people on your bench first weekend.

All kidding aside, I think it would be a damn good game. Too bad you guys never come down south for tournaments where you can play the better teams more often (FAU UCF UM and UT) .

Yeah we should have beaten NC state we were up 5 - 2 and stopped trying. It was a massive mental mistake against a good team we should have beaten. A rematch would be great simply cause having as you said 6 players on your bench really doesnt help and it would be a good game either way. And we have traveled to georgia twice (10 hour drive) and to south carolina once (7 hour drive). Honestly i would love to play the better teams way in the south but it hurts being the most northern team in the SECHRL. The tourny coming up for us is perfect with 4 of the top 10 teams in DII attending and us literally driving 20 minutes.

[FAUplayer]

Yeah we should have beaten NC state we were up 5 - 2 and stopped trying. It was a massive mental mistake against a good team we should have beaten. A rematch would be great simply cause having as you said 6 players on your bench really doesnt help and it would be a good game either way. And we have traveled to georgia twice (10 hour drive) and to south carolina once (7 hour drive). Honestly i would love to play the better teams way in the south but it hurts being the most northern team in the SECHRL. The tourny coming up for us is perfect with 4 of the top 10 teams in DII attending and us literally driving 20 minutes.

Lake Worth is 20 minutes from our school, and Ft Myers is only 2 hours (we had 1 tournament in Lake Worth and 2 in Ft Myers this season). Luckily we have only had to travel far once, and that was for that Savannah tournament, which is only about 7 hours. Snellville is a good 10 hours for us. Maybe we can setup a little grudge match after hours in Snellville ;) :p

[PureHockey111]

Lake Worth is 20 minutes from our school, and Ft Myers is only 2 hours (we had 1 tournament in Lake Worth and 2 in Ft Myers this season). Luckily we have only had to travel far once, and that was for that Savannah tournament, which is only about 7 hours. Snellville is a good 10 hours for us. Maybe we can setup a little grudge match after hours in Snellville ;) :p

Ha yeah that would be fun for sure. only if we use opposite handed sticks and full checking. and yeah not having to travel really isnt so much a disadvantage on the rink but more in the wallet :mad:

[hockeykid12]

GMU talks a very big game. I just hope that they dont get knocked off that pedastool too hard against the top teams in ECRHA and UT

[GSJaguars11]

wow rowan vs brockport at 6:30am?

[GMULensing7]

GMU talks a very big game. I just hope that they dont get knocked off that pedastool too hard against the top teams in ECRHA and UT

when have we talked a big game? and besides we know we are going to be playing some dirty ass teams in two weeks...

[William Bourque]

wow rowan vs brockport at 6:30am?

One of the disadvantages of playing in the Northeast and having to deal with massive snow storms.

[BEEZERAL]

So there has been a lot of smack talk in this thread but not many lists. im sure Mason has an excel spreadsheet that has every teams chances of getting to regionals. I wonder if he realizes that he is way to inteligent to be involved with hockey

[CSteamer]

GMU talks a very big game. I just hope that they dont get knocked off that pedastool too hard against the top teams in ECRHA and UT

Rhode Island went 2-2 this past weekend against the lowly SECRHL...probably should have gone 1-3 if UCF doesn't spot them 5 goals before they hung on to win 6-5. I think GMU will be fine.

[wednthavddr]

Dear Mr. CSteamer,

Watching the Rhode Island/UCF game I was very surprised at how well RI played defense. Their weak link is obviously their goaltending but for some reason you guys could not find the net. Kind of like us, but that is besides the point. Also every goal UCF scored it was a power play, and at one point the ref put three RI players in the box at once.

I going to just say that if UM doesn't meet UT before the Regional Championship game it will be UM vs UT. UM is playing good hockey right now. BIG pickup with that Shuman guy.

Love,
Yours truly!

P.S.- UCF could not stop Brendan Nelson. He is SICK

[Chapwi]

Rhode Island went 2-2 this past weekend against the lowly SECRHL...probably should have gone 1-3 if UCF doesn't spot them 5 goals before they hung on to win 6-5. I think GMU will be fine.

Im not quite sure if that a statistic that relates in any manner seeing as this is a Division II thread.

[BEEZERAL]

Im not quite sure if that a statistic that relates in any manner seeing as this is a Division II thread.

Well what I think he is saying that a top DI team from the ECRHA came down to the SECRHL and didn't go 4-0 like everyone thought they would.

They were in a dog fight every game they played and UM, UT, and GMU have already proven they can play with and beat the DI teams in the SECRHL.

So under the assumption that a top DI team is as good or better than the top DII teams in the ECRHA, the argument can easily be made that UM, UT and GMU can play with the ECRHA.

Obviously this is all speculation until GMU goes and plays against the ECRHA and UT, GMU, and probably UM play ECRHA teams at nationals

[FAUplayer]

Kennesaw beat Miami, and Miami beat UCF... does that put Kennesaw at a level above UCF and the other D1 teams? :p:p;)

[BEEZERAL]

Kennesaw beat Miami, and Miami beat UCF... does that put Kennesaw at a level above UCF and the other D1 teams? :p:p;)

Judging by the scores when KSU played FAU 14-3 and UCF 6-1 (both losses) compared to beating UM it is more likely that KSU had a very good game against UM as well as UM having a bad game against KSU.

But I do think that if KSU plays as good as they are capable of they can upset anyone at regionals

[rshock73]

It is also possible that KSU made some roster changes this semester. ;)

We played very well in the Miami game and I thought we played UCF well too. We didn't finish when we had our chances against UCF and it cost us the chance to make that game interesting.

The Savannah tourney was a nightmare for us. The composition of our team is much improved from when we played FAU. Our biggest issue this year has been consistency, hopefully we can get that fixed and make regionals interesting.

[BEEZERAL]

It is also possible that KSU made some roster changes this semester. ;)

We played very well in the Miami game and I thought we played UCF well too. We didn't finish when we had our chances against UCF and it cost us the chance to make that game interesting.

The Savannah tourney was a nightmare for us. The composition of our team is much improved from when we played FAU. Our biggest issue this year has been consistency, hopefully we can get that fixed and make regionals interesting.

I did not realize that you guys picked up a couple players. I definately think you guys have a chance to make noise at regionals, but I still think that its going to come down to UT/UM/GMU winning it all.

Everyone will want to be in the pool with the 1 seed because it will be very tough to come out of the pool that has most likely UM and GMU with tampa most likely being the 1 seed.

[BEEZERAL]

Because I am really bored.

In no particular order

1. Brockport
2. Rowan
3. West Chester
4. Neumann
5. Misouri St.
6. Cincy
7. Grand Valley St.
8. Metro St. Denver
9. GMU
10. UT
11. UM
12. Stephen F Austin
13. California
14. St. Louis
15. Texas-Arlington
16. UC San Diego

flame away

[betteronice]

Because I am really bored.

In no particular order

1. Brockport
2. Rowan
3. West Chester
4. Neumann
5. Misouri St.
6. Cincy
7. Grand Valley St.
8. Metro St. Denver
9. GMU
10. UT
11. UM
12. Stephen F Austin
13. California
14. St. Louis
15. Texas-Arlington
16. UC San Diego

flame away

No flaming, but I think that UT should be way higher. We'll know more after this weekend, but I'd put them in the top 5.

[BEEZERAL]

No flaming, but I think that UT should be way higher. We'll know more after this weekend, but I'd put them in the top 5.

I just put 16 teams. They aren't ranked at all

[CSteamer]

Kennesaw beat Miami, and Miami beat UCF... does that put Kennesaw at a level above UCF and the other D1 teams? :p:p;)

Kennesaw beat Miami, Miami beat UCF, UCF beat FAU...does that put Kennesaw above FAU?

Also, what I was saying is that one of the top D1 teams in the ECRHA came down and played in 4 tough games, and could have lost all four. GMU, UT, and UM have all proven that they can play with UCF, FAU, and NC State, so I think GMU should be fine in the SECRHL/ECRHA cross-regional coming up...but no one will know for sure until the games are played.

[GSJaguars11]

no offense to the ecrha d1 teams but i think west chester would beat any team in the ecrha other than probably buffalo. the d1 teams lost a lot of players this year

[GoRangrHky]

How are they not supposed to take offense to that?

[Patn Lawton]

no offense to the ecrha d1 teams but i think west chester would beat any team in the ecrha other than probably buffalo. the d1 teams lost a lot of players this year

This wouldn't be the first time an ECRHA DII team could beat almost every ECRHA DI team.

[hockeykid12]

This wouldn't be the first time an ECRHA DII team could beat almost every ECRHA DI team.

True, i think WCU would be able to beat most d1 teams.
Then Neumann teams over the past 5 years could probably have beaten any of them, maybe even LWood a few of those years.

[BEEZERAL]

True, i think WCU would be able to beat most d1 teams.
Then Neumann teams over the past 5 years could probably have beaten any of them, maybe even LWood a few of those years.

Then why not play D1?

[hockeykid12]

idk why they never did, just stating an opinion

[GSJaguars11]

How are they not supposed to take offense to that?

lol i figured i'd say that anyway.

[Chapwi]

no offense to the ecrha d1 teams but i think west chester would beat any team in the ecrha other than probably buffalo. the d1 teams lost a lot of players this year


......or Brockport. Not saying they cant. but they didnt yet. But anyways i feel WCU Brockport Rowan and Neumann would all be rather competitive in D1.

[William Bourque]

Rhode Island went 2-2 this past weekend against the lowly SECRHL...probably should have gone 1-3 if UCF doesn't spot them 5 goals before they hung on to win 6-5. I think GMU will be fine.

I find it kind of ironic that you insult the SECRHL in your post that is suppose to support your region. Anyone who thought that FAU or UCF was a weak team obviously wasn't at nationals last year or didn't follow this season at all.

The real surprise is how well NC State has played after a few rough years. But anyone who was around a few years ago know that NC State usually has some players.

The best part of all these out of region games is teams finally have the opportunity to earn a chance to make the national tournament. If the final spot at nationals came down to George Mason and Rowan, and the teams played during the season, it makes the decision a hell of a lot easier. And for those teams left home, who want to make a push for nationals, it gives them all the more incentive to start planning to make a trip out of region leading into the next season.

[alex]

Then Neumann teams over the past 5 years could probably have beaten any of them, maybe even LWood a few of those years.

doubttttttt it

[GoRangrHky]

No way. We skated right with them for years (including beating them during their undefeated season) and they weren't even CLOSE to what the better DI teams have to offer. I've played against both, and while yeah, they might not have gotten killed, no way they were beating them. We weren't either, for that matter.

[hockeykid12]

i didnt say every year, but id say the two title winning teams prolly could have more so the second one but still both solidly stacked.. WCU i could doing that today to most d1 schools even bport

[CSteamer]

I find it kind of ironic that you insult the SECRHL in your post that is suppose to support your region. Anyone who thought that FAU or UCF was a weak team obviously wasn't at nationals last year or didn't follow this season at all.

The real surprise is how well NC State has played after a few rough years. But anyone who was around a few years ago know that NC State usually has some players.

The best part of all these out of region games is teams finally have the opportunity to earn a chance to make the national tournament. If the final spot at nationals came down to George Mason and Rowan, and the teams played during the season, it makes the decision a hell of a lot easier. And for those teams left home, who want to make a push for nationals, it gives them all the more incentive to start planning to make a trip out of region leading into the next season.

I was being sarcastic...I was not insulting the SECRHL, instead I was giving the opinion of most of the memebers of the ECRHA that the SECRHL is weak. I was supporting the SECRHL.

[BEEZERAL]

I was being sarcastic...I was not insulting the SECRHL, instead I was giving the opinion of most of the memebers of the ECRHA that the SECRHL is weak. I was supporting the SECRHL.

I honestly think everyone is going to be surprised at how strong the SECRHL is at Nationals this year. this should be the 3 strongest DII teams to represent the SECRHL in a long time

[show2606]

which game this weekend is going to mean the most/be the best game?
Brockport vs. Rowan
Rowan vs. Neumann
Neumann vs. Brockport

[dan sangiorgio]

No way. We skated right with them for years (including beating them during their undefeated season) and they weren't even CLOSE to what the better DI teams have to offer. I've played against both, and while yeah, they might not have gotten killed, no way they were beating them. We weren't either, for that matter.
we beat the top d1 teams including towson who were regional champs. while hofstra did beat us one time and then played us close at nationals (which was a great game) the following year our team added a few really talented players and from then you could see there was just a huge gap between our teams from then on

edit: by top d1 teams i refering to ecrha d1

[GoRangrHky]

Well, considering they never made the decision to make the jump up, I guess we'll never know.

[Chapwi]

5-4 Brockport over rowan

[Patn Lawton]

Congrats on the win, I am sure it was a very competitive game. Gotta love 6:30am games...

[madfred]

I don't know why we even discuss it. Everyone knows the northeast is the superior athletic part of the country. Why not just allow the other regions a play in game and take 15 teams from the east? ESPNU would go for that. obviously, the northeast is a big powerhouse in college football. Big 12, SEC and Big 10 are simply misplaced. 3 NCAA basketball champs in the last 20 years, but they should have won 19, maybe one win for Florida. Kansas and Kentucky can't compete with the big boys. I am being and meaning to be offensive, the northeast thinks the world ends in PittsburghWhy is the northeast only good in sports the rest of the country does not play like hockey and lacrosse?

[show2606]

Matt and mango provide an almost unfair advantage for Rowan. Fans have compared then to the equivalent of 5th and 6th men

[hockeykid12]

where was mariotti and klenk for neumann? healthy scratches? haha
looks like they could have used them today...

should neumann even go to nationals, everyone talks bout brockport not beating anyone, neumann cant seem to beat the top three either and lost a game to temple

[Missionhockey12]

marriotti is in long island playing pro for isca at narch..

[rensch32]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/socko12788/renschlerandmango.jpg

[hockeykid12]

Seems like Neumann and brockport really went at it. Neumann gave it to them even without mariotti, seems like regionals will be very competitive.
Hats off to brockport. But I'd say Neumann can turn it on jst as well.
4 horse race for regional champs

[Patn Lawton]

Must have been a great game. Looks like Brockport came back from 1 down to win it in the last 30 seconds of the game. I am looking forward to watching them play GMU (11-1) next weekend, and East Carolina has a decent record too at 9-3.

[hockeykid12]

rowan/neumann/brockport all are attending VA right? GMU is gonna have a hard time to handle those three. Hopefully Neumann can sport a full squad, Ill give it to them playing with out mariotti it seems like they held there own. If they play the same way with him regionals will be a good time.

[TUcoach]

I can say that the Neumann Brockport game this weekend was by far the best college roller hockey game I've seen in a long time. This was also by far the best I've seen Neumann play all season. They took it to Brockport all game long and Brockport gave it back, it truly was a dog fight. ECRHA DII regional will very interesting, I have to give Brockport a very slight edge to win it but it truly could be any of the top 4 teams walking away with the title.

[hockeykid12]

back to thread topic, who are the teams that deserve to go?

how many teams from the ecrha should go?

[Patn Lawton]

After the big four in ECRHA, Shippensburg and Temple are both there as possibilities. Shippensburg vs George Mason next weekend is a big matchup since GMU is #2 in the SECRHL. If Shipp wins it'll boost their chances assuming they play well in regionals and also help the ECRHA in general by showing their depth.

[WhoOwnDaChiefs1]

Brockport still hasn't played anyone good. I think they need to go play the Team Canada to see if they are truly any good.

[Patn Lawton]

Brockport still hasn't played anyone good. I think they need to go play the Team Canada to see if they are truly any good.

They are definitely underdogs heading into regionals. Long live Randy Dix Memorial Pool.

[BEEZERAL]

So how important does everybody think gmu's performance next weekend is? With a 1-3 record or worse do u think it eliminates gmu and/or UM from nationals? And what would a 3-1/4-0 record do for the selection committe's opinion of the secrhl

[hockey1]

I do not see how they would get a bid if they went 0-4. But if they go 1-3 (beating Shipp) I would think they'd get a bid over Shipp or Temple. The game GMU-Shipp is huge when it comes to the ECRHA getting a 5th bid. I would be very surprised if GMU won more then the Shipp game.

[CraigBrodz]

They are definitely underdogs heading into regionals. Long live Randy Dix Memorial Pool.



Randy Dix Memorial Pool will always be remembered. In order to make it official, I will create and donate a sign to be built by Paul "Crazy Joe" Maier signifying the beginning of Brockport Roller Derby as we know it now. All Current and Future Brockport Roller Derby players need to know the legend who is Randy Dix.

Craig Brodmerkel
Long Island 495ers #31
SUNY Stony Brook 2005-2007 DII National Champs. Alum
SUNY Brockport 2002-2005

[PureHockey111]

Yeah this weekend should be really interesting. havent seen any of these other top teams play in person but the film looks like all the games should be close and really intense. I know everyone on our team just cant wait to play the top ecrha teams and hopefully not drop any games to them.

[Hockey Coach]

Neumann will have a full squad this weekend and will be ready to play.

[show2606]

this next weekend will be exciting. it will be interesting to see how the two regions match up. are any of the other teams besides GMU capable of giving the top ECRHA teams a good game?

[GMU18]

this next weekend will be exciting. it will be interesting to see how the two regions match up. are any of the other teams besides GMU capable of giving the top ECRHA teams a good game?


ECU has a chance, and probably has an advantage against shippensburg. Other than that, not really -_-

[hockeykid12]

gmu seems to like to talk about there "dangles" I dont think they realize the type of hockey that east plays, the level of talent is above the south, there in for a wake up call

[Patn Lawton]

gmu seems to like to talk about there "dangles" I dont think they realize the type of hockey that east plays, the level of talent is above the south, there in for a wake up call


I don't think there is going to be some big regional-culture shock regarding playing style. GMU is just happy to be playing on their home rink (also a decent-sized rink) and playing some high-quality teams. Their players are definitely aware they aren't going to dangle the crap out of all these teams, but they do have a few players with some nasty dangles.

Just out of curiousity, who are you hockeykid12? You should post your name and where you play as your sig.

[hockeykid12]

there use to playing lesser quality teams, i just hope there aware of the talent that they are going to play, i wish them the best, thats a real tough schedule

[show2606]

I have only played roller hockey for a year and a half so I really have no say in how good the teams from the south or other regions are. I know ECRHA is competitive and I'm sure GMU and some southern teams will be competitive. it's just too bad we can't have like each region send their top 4 teams to these interregional events and have them all duke it out. Maybe a thought for the future. Perhaps even be funded by the regions :)

[hockeykid12]

thats what nationals is for lol

[show2606]

well I realize that, but this would probably make nationals more competitive in terms of which region gets how many bids. The way its set up now, top teams from some regions play weak teams from others and when they beat up on them, we know no more than we did before they played. We knew the good team was good and the bad team was bad.

[Chapwi]

So anyone want to dish out some predictions of the upcoming weekend? Il put in my two sense.

GMU 1-3

Neumann 8-6
Rowan 9-5 (100-0 if their two fans and phils brother are there)
Brockport 6-3
Shipp 2-8

Brockport, Rowan, Neumann 4-0. If not 4 definitly 3 wins.

Shipp vs. ECU il give ECU a 3 goal win.

Pretty much just guesses. Seems like teams in the East have more Scoring power. And ofcourse bias cause im from the East.

[GSJaguars11]

I'm pretty sure when those 2 fans get back from class in a few minutes and i show them that post its gonna make their week

[hockey1]

So anyone want to dish out some predictions of the upcoming weekend? Il put in my two sense.

GMU 1-3

Neumann 8-6
Rowan 9-5 (100-0 if their two fans and phils brother are there)
Brockport 6-3
Shipp 2-8

Brockport, Rowan, Neumann 4-0. If not 4 definitly 3 wins.

Shipp vs. ECU il give ECU a 3 goal win.

Pretty much just guesses. Seems like teams in the East have more Scoring power. And ofcourse bias cause im from the East.

I agree with most of that except I think Shipp will beat ECU.

[hockey1]

I'm pretty sure when those 2 fans get back from class in a few minutes and i show them that post its gonna make their week

It was fun playing with them in the stands. I know the few fans we had in Harrisburg this weekend had a blast trying to out cheer them.

[Chapwi]

I'm pretty sure when those 2 fans get back from class in a few minutes and i show them that post its gonna make their week

Good you let them know If they want to make the trip and support Brockport aswell they are more than welcome haha.

And Hockeykid12 all year i have been trying to prove to you brockport is not a fraud and its been working so for superstitious purposes i would like it if you would cheer for the SECRHA hahahha.

[GSJaguars11]

It was fun playing with them in the stands. I know the few fans we had in Harrisburg this weekend had a blast trying to out cheer them.

im guessing youre on temple? i remember i heard the two of them start joining in on the lets go temple chant.

[hockeykid12]

Chapwi, you guys are good but you barely handled Neumann without Mariotti and beat wcu without Keene. Granted a win is a win but those are the two best players arguably in the league

[hockey1]

im guessing youre on temple? i remember i heard the two of them start joining in on the lets go temple chant.

Yes, I am on Temple. Unlike the game, the cheering match in the stands was very close. Our two fans gave yours a run for their money.

[GMU18]

gmu seems to like to talk about there "dangles" I dont think they realize the type of hockey that east plays, the level of talent is above the south, there in for a wake up call


Drew lensing dangles all..

[GSJaguars11]

brendan scalley cross checks

[GSJaguars11]

all .

[Patn Lawton]

Drew Lensing dangles hockeykid12 as Brockport moves to 30-0 after this upcoming weekend.

[hockeykid12]

So brockport is going 30-0 after winning four games in va? Wierd thought it's 22-0? Odd

[BEEZERAL]

So does anyone want to actually post a list of 16 teams?

[Patn Lawton]

So brockport is going 30-0 after winning four games in va? Wierd thought it's 22-0? Odd

That is counting the wins on Randy Dix Memorial Pool

[show2606]

Chapwi, you guys are good but you barely handled Neumann without Mariotti and beat wcu without Keene. Granted a win is a win but those are the two best players arguably in the league

Keene was there. The game is online. http://www.youtube.com/user/BrockportRoller and the Neumann game will be online soon. My hat is off to Neumann giving us a good game but I wasn't thrilled with our performance to start the game and penalties hurt us. It shouldn't have been as close as it was. and hockeykid12 how do we even know you've actually seen these teams play? don't like to give up the secret identity?

My list is as follows:
1.Brockport
2.West Chester
3.Grand Valley
4.Rowan
5.Tampa
6.Cincy
7.Neumann
8.George Mason
9.Miami
10.Missouri State
11.California
12.Stephen F. Austin
13.Saint Louis
14.UC San Diego
15.Kennesaw
16.Metro State Denver


All of this is just speculating and looking at whats on paper of course since I haven't seen most of these teams

[GMU18]

Keene was there. The game is online. http://www.youtube.com/user/BrockportRoller and the Neumann game will be online soon. My hat is off to Neumann giving us a good game but I wasn't thrilled with our performance to start the game and penalties hurt us. It shouldn't have been as close as it was. and hockeykid12 how do we even know you've actually seen these teams play? don't like to give up the secret identity?

My list is as follows:
1.Brockport
2.West Chester
3.Grand Valley
4.Rowan
5.Tampa
6.Cincy
7.Neumann
8.George Mason
8.Miami
9.Missouri State
10.California
11.Stephen F. Austin
12.Saint Louis
13.UC San Diego
14.Kennesaw
15.Metro State Denver
16.My last bid is up for auction

All of this is just speculating and looking at whats on paper of course since I haven't seen most of these teams


You have us and miami ranked as 8th..

[show2606]

GMU18 my bad, I guess that gets rid of my spot for auction. And as I said before I am just speculating. I know little to nothing about the other regions. All I know is my team, the teams we play against and the records and rankings I see. BEEZERAL I think you'll get over it.

[GMU18]

GMU18 my bad, I guess that gets rid of my spot for auction. And as I said before I am just speculating. I know little to nothing about the other regions. All I know is my team, the teams we play against and the records and rankings I see. BEEZERAL I think you'll get over it.


I think your top 16 is accurate. Your top 8 are the same as my top 8 would have been. I disagree with your last couple.. (kennasaw shouldn't be at nationals) but they don't really matter so..

[BEEZERAL]

GMU18 my bad, I guess that gets rid of my spot for auction. And as I said before I am just speculating. I know little to nothing about the other regions. All I know is my team, the teams we play against and the records and rankings I see. BEEZERAL I think you'll get over it.


I did my list the same way as u with no knowledge of the other regions. List looks good to me. As strong as the ecrha appears to be I don't see how shippensburg or temple get a bid unless they pull some major upsets at regionals but I still think that no more than 4 teams should come out of Amy region. I also think ecu has a better shot of getting a bid than ksu but I think it will be tough for a 4th team to get a bid from the secrhl. I know that we are worried about getting left out as the "3rd" best team in the conference.

[Patn Lawton]

I did my list the same way as u with no knowledge of the other regions. List looks good to me. As strong as the ecrha appears to be I don't see how shippensburg or temple get a bid unless they pull some major upsets at regionals but I still think that no more than 4 teams should come out of Amy region. I also think ecu has a better shot of getting a bid than ksu but I think it will be tough for a 4th team to get a bid from the secrhl. I know that we are worried about getting left out as the "3rd" best team in the conference.

What if Shippensburg beats all four SECRHL opponents next weekend?

Also, where is Bourque with all his stats about how regions have done historically at nationals by division?

[hockey1]

I did my list the same way as u with no knowledge of the other regions. List looks good to me. As strong as the ecrha appears to be I don't see how shippensburg or temple get a bid unless they pull some major upsets at regionals but I still think that no more than 4 teams should come out of Amy region. I also think ecu has a better shot of getting a bid than ksu but I think it will be tough for a 4th team to get a bid from the secrhl. I know that we are worried about getting left out as the "3rd" best team in the conference.

Should no region get more then 4 bids just based on principle? I am not saying this is the case but if one region has 5 or 6 of the top 16 teams in the country then why should they not get a bid just because they are in a strong region?

[hockey1]

What if Shippensburg beats all four SECRHL opponents next weekend?

Also, where is Bourque with all his stats about how regions have done historically at nationals by division?

I see that Shipp/GMU game being huge when it comes to SECRHL getting a 3rd or 4th bid or ECRHA getting a 5th bid. I think that most of it comes down to that game.

[BEEZERAL]

What if Shippensburg beats all four SECRHL opponents next weekend?

Also, where is Bourque with all his stats about how regions have done historically at nationals by division?


If they go 4-0 it would shake things up of course and I'm not sure it's completely out of the question especially since I'm sure gmu will be a little rusty since they have not played a game since early November.

[BEEZERAL]

Should no region get more then 4 bids just based on principle? I am not saying this is the case but if one region has 5 or 6 of the top 16 teams in the country then why should they not get a bid just because they are in a strong region?

I think it should be very hard for a region to get more than 4 bids but not out of the question. It's just very rare for more than 4 teams to truly be worthy of a bid to nationals.

[hockey1]

I think it should be very hard for a region to get more than 4 bids but not out of the question. It's just very rare for more than 4 teams to truly be worthy of a bid to nationals.

I agree that it is not easy, but if a team is in the top 16 in the nation they still deserve a bid even if they are the 5th or 6th or 7th best in their region because the point of nationals is to get the best 16 team there (which is why I do not like the automatic bid per region but thats a whole other debate).

[William Bourque]

What if Shippensburg beats all four SECRHL opponents next weekend?

Also, where is Bourque with all his stats about how regions have done historically at nationals by division?

I am here, just reading things said and observing. I don't have the stats calculated from last season (old comp), but could dig it up on a rainy day when I have less to do.

Last season I made a trip down to the SECRHL regional tournament, so I have a decent gauge on who is at what level, obviously allowing room for improvement and the wild-card that is GMU.

I am not involved with Shippensburg anymore, however, they have a very young team with 7 new players on the team from last year amd they are improving every game. This weekend will be a good learning experience for them, and will, along with regionals essentially decide their fate for nationals.

I'll be down in Virgina this weekend, doing more observing and getting a feel for teams I have yet to see ECU & GMU.

[Chapwi]

If they go 4-0 it would shake things up of course and I'm not sure it's completely out of the question especially since I'm sure gmu will be a little rusty since they have not played a game since early November.


I have a feeling playing Neumann Rowan and Brockport will get their wheels moving before seeing Ship sunday afternoon.

[BEEZERAL]

After taking a closer look at the ECRHA, I don't really understand why so many ECRHA guys think that Shippensburg and Temple should be strongly considered for getting bids to nationals.

Shippensburg's best result was a 4-4 tie against Temple.

Temple's best result is a 4-2 win over Neumann

I cant see how either of those teams deserve to go to nationals

They werent even that competitive against the top teams in the ECRHA. a lot of blow outs

[William Bourque]

After taking a closer look at the ECRHA, I don't really understand why so many ECRHA guys think that Shippensburg and Temple should be strongly considered for getting bids to nationals.

Just would like to post that nobody from Shippensburg has posted on here about them deserving/not deserving a bid for nationals.


But as a poster before had said, IF, Shippensburg beat ECU and GMU, as well as both of those teams failing to beat any ECRHA teams this weekend, would Shippensburg deserve a spot at nationals? Or Temple? over a GMU team? Not that I am saying it will happen, just throwing out a scenario for discussion.

[hockeykid12]

I think because temple and ship play in the East it gives them the benefit of the doubt, playing in the strongest region and losing for the most part to just the top teams, gives them the reasoning to be in over a more "statistically" deserving team.

[BEEZERAL]

I think because temple and ship play in the East it gives them the benefit of the doubt, playing in the strongest region and losing for the most part to just the top teams, gives them the reasoning to be in over a more "statistically" deserving team.

IMO they need to beat gmu to have an argument to get in. Ecu has a good record but has not beaten a team that is over .500 all year. And if either team goes 4-0 they deserve to go over secrhl teams. But at this point the only thing either team has done is beat the lower half of the ecrha teams and play in the ecrha. Just having a winning record in the strongest conference is not enough when u have not beaten any of the teams that make it a strong conference.

[hockeykid12]

is it safe to say the team that wins the east regionals will have a 1 seed at nationals

[MIDWESTCLAPPER]

NO. But it is safe to say that it will get them an autobid into Nationals.

[Chapwi]

Is there pool play at nationals to determined seeds? or is it just a bracket right off the start?

[BEEZERAL]

is it safe to say the team that wins the east regionals will have a 1 seed at nationals

No. If brockport or west Chester win then yes. But why should a two loss Rowan be the 1 seed over undefeated teams from
other conferences. Neumann shippensburg and temple have no shot at being the top seed even if they win regionals

[Chapwi]

If Ship or temple beats out WCU Rowan Neumann and Brockport for a regional championship...they deserve the number 1 seed more than anyone cause that would be one heck of a weekend. lol

[William Bourque]

Is there pool play at nationals to determined seeds? or is it just a bracket right off the start?

Pool Play at nationals is going to be ran kinda like the ECRHA Regionals this year.

Each pool will advance each team to a predetermined place in the bracket based on where each team finishes in each pool.

In that regard, there really is no #1 seed.

[PureHockey111]

there use to playing lesser quality teams, i just hope there aware of the talent that they are going to play, i wish them the best, thats a real tough schedule

Top 4 guys on GMU do play on the same pro team and have played almost every north eastern team in the aihl. were not cocky, weve played against some of the best on the east coast, same with many of the people were gonna be playing on the top ecrha teams which is why this should turn out to be extremely competitive. we just like having fun but aparently these forums are all business... look for the dump and chase coming from the top line on GMU and everyone frowning.

[Patn Lawton]

Top 4 guys on GMU do play on the same pro team and have played almost every north eastern team in the aihl. were not cocky, weve played against some of the best on the east coast, same with many of the people were gonna be playing on the top ecrha teams which is why this should turn out to be extremely competitive. we just like having fun but aparently these forums are all business... look for the dump and chase coming from the top line on GMU and everyone frowning.


Probably should institute a box zone on defense too. ECRHA teams are 57% faster than anyone else.

[catch]

I have no problem with acknowledging that the east has good teams. However, when i look at regions the east d2 teams don't play division I schools and they repeatedly beat a lot of teams with bad records. In the Great Plains, and some other regions, the schedules are weighted so that the better d2 teams play better games. I would note that 3 of the final 4last year were teams from the midwest. Buffalo lost to UMSL 3-2 this year. Mo State played UMSL to a 3-1, but for an empty net goal. I don't care about being ranked low and we don't play the east, I don't care about what you say about yourselves, but this notion that 5-6 teams from the east should be in nationals and not teams like Missouri S & T and SIU-E is a bunch of crap. If we all simply played the same schedules the east coast teams did we would have bloated records to, but it would not mean much.



If Ship or temple beats out WCU Rowan Neumann and Brockport for a regional championship...they deserve the number 1 seed more than anyone cause that would be one heck of a weekend. lol

[Patn Lawton]

I have no problem with acknowledging that the east has good teams. However, when i look at regions the east d2 teams don't play division I schools and they repeatedly beat a lot of teams with bad records. In the Great Plains, and some other regions, the schedules are weighted so that the better d2 teams play better games. I would note that 3 of the final 4last year were teams from the midwest. Buffalo lost to UMSL 3-2 this year. Mo State played UMSL to a 3-1, but for an empty net goal. I don't care about being ranked low and we don't play the east, I don't care about what you say about yourselves, but this notion that 5-6 teams from the east should be in nationals and not teams like Missouri S & T and SIU-E is a bunch of crap. If we all simply played the same schedules the east coast teams did we would have bloated records to, but it would not mean much.

Definitely a great contribution to the discussion. There have always been solid D2 teams coming out of the great plains region competing at nationals.

[BEEZERAL]

I have no problem with acknowledging that the east has good teams. However, when i look at regions the east d2 teams don't play division I schools and they repeatedly beat a lot of teams with bad records. In the Great Plains, and some other regions, the schedules are weighted so that the better d2 teams play better games. I would note that 3 of the final 4last year were teams from the midwest. Buffalo lost to UMSL 3-2 this year. Mo State played UMSL to a 3-1, but for an empty net goal. I don't care about being ranked low and we don't play the east, I don't care about what you say about yourselves, but this notion that 5-6 teams from the east should be in nationals and not teams like Missouri S & T and SIU-E is a bunch of crap. If we all simply played the same schedules the east coast teams did we would have bloated records to, but it would not mean much.

Exactly, I dont understand how people are even arguing for Shipp and Temple, Shipp has not beaten a team that is above .500 and temple's best win is against Neumann who also has 5 losses. To be fair, other than one of the first posts nobody has said they deserve a bid, but i really am surprised at how confident the ECRHA guys are that even teams like Shippensburg and Temple will roll ever top teams from other conferences. I dont know I could be very wrong and The ECRHA is really that deep and the sub .500 teams in the ECRHA would beat most teams around the country, but I seriously doubt it.

[Patn Lawton]

Exactly, I dont understand how people are even arguing for Shipp and Temple, Shipp has not beaten a team that is above .500 and temple's best win is against Neumann who also has 5 losses. To be fair, other than one of the first posts nobody has said they deserve a bid, but i really am surprised at how confident the ECRHA guys are that even teams like Shippensburg and Temple will roll ever top teams from other conferences. I dont know I could be very wrong and The ECRHA is really that deep and the sub .500 teams in the ECRHA would beat most teams around the country, but I seriously doubt it.

I think the talks about Shipp are directed towards them playing GMU this weekend (if they win) since GMU is considered by most #2 in the SECRHL. Regardless, most people would agree that Shipp or Temple would have to really rip through regionals to have a shot.

[rowanhockey]

the East deserves four bids in d2 but will most likely get screwed and only get three, brockport being 4th last year and not making nationals even though they were better then half the teams there, it is just the way it works out, nothing against temple and shipp solid teams but there is no way they will get a bid. and after playin FAU last year in nationals and seeing how GMU did against them and other teams, i believe they will be very hard intense games for us, brockport and neumann

[BEEZERAL]

I think the talks about Shipp are directed towards them playing GMU this weekend (if they win) since GMU is considered by most #2 in the SECRHL. Regardless, most people would agree that Shipp or Temple would have to really rip through regionals to have a shot.

I know what you mean, but many on this board think that Ship beating GMU is more of a fact then a possibility.
This just feels like college football all over again with the ECRHA=SEC

If you play in the ECRHA you are automatically better than a team with a slightly better record in another conference and I really do not think that is the case. While like the SEC, the top of the ECRHA will most likely produce the National Champ for DII, but that does not mean a middle of the road team deserves more respect just because Brockport and West Chester are really good

[hockeykid12]

i agree that the discussion for ship comes from them playing GMU this wkend. I dont think the NCRHA will make the same mistake as last year and keep out a 4th ECRHA team, and give it to a sub par team in the west or something like that

[William Bourque]

I know what you mean, but many on this board think that Ship beating GMU is more of a fact then a possibility.
This just feels like college football all over again with the ECRHA=SEC


I still have yet to see anyone say that Ship will beat GMU.

[William Bourque]

I find this conversation very interesting. Many people make serious points about balance and competition, only for those points to be overlooked by broad generalizations regarding the teams in regions around the country.

The most pointed to fact to discredit two teams, Shippensburg and Temple, I will not get into the merits of either team and whether or not they deserve a bid, is that they never beat the teams ahead of them in their region.

This brings me to examine the teams that got selected to nationals last season.

Example 1: A team that just a few post ago was promoted as deserving a bid. SIU-E. Last season, it was widely noted that they had a very poor record against teams with a winning record. However, having to play those tough teams, even though a healthy portion of them were blowouts, caused them to be selected, regardless as to the fact they lost. So the same argument that kept Brockport out, was used to push SIU-E into the tournament, where they were run out of the rink against Central Michigan and West Chester, beat Northern Colorado and lost to Rowan.

Example 2: Last season, at 7-7-1, USC made a run at regionals before falling by four goals against a very talented UCSD squad. Although performing averagely all season, a strong run at nationals led to USC selection. Some could argue they were selected, as has been suggested in this thread, because bringing X amount of teams from one region isn't right. USC came to nationals, played there hearts out, but sadly lost all four games, 3 of which came in blowout fashion.

The point I am trying to make, is that for every argument you make for one team deserving a nationals bid over another should have nothing to do with what region they come from. The goal should be to bring the best 16 teams from around the country. If that means the top 8 teams all play in the SECRHL, then so be it, as long as the best teams are at the national tournament, who cares if there are a majority of teams from one region.

The teams that everyone keeps putting down left and right, Shippensburg and Temple, have stepped up to the plate. They went above and beyond the season schedule to ensure they would have a fair look.

Temple went out to Pittsburgh and faced off against Grand Valley State, the best DII team in the country and came away with a 4-0 loss in what appeared to be a close game (didn't see it as I was working on the other rink, but will watch the video when it is on ECRHA Gameday). This shouldn't earn them a spot into nationals, but at least they gave themselves a comparison point to such a good team.

Shippensburg is heading down to DC this weekend to take on four teams from the SECRHL, including GMU. That is there chance. They know that they don't deserve a nationals bid based on losing to Brockport, Rowan x2, Neumann and West Chester. However, they now have a chance to show that they might deserve a bid to nationals if they beat GMU or help a team like Temple to deserve a spot at nationals if they themselves don't make it.

The more teams play hockey and play cross-regional games, the more they have to gain for themselves and there regions. Sitting at home all season and praying you make nationals when only 16 teams out of over 70+ get invited, its a ballsy move that could backfire. At least the teams you guys keep roasting on have the courage and deserve to prove themselves on a nationals stage.

A lot of what seems like ECRHA-centric attitude from some of these posters is from guys who went to nationals last year and know first hand that last season, both Shippensburg and Brockport were better than 1/2 of the nationals DII field. This is a new season, and teams change, but hopefully you get my point.

I am sure that most of you stopped reading at this point, but I just hate generalizations and blanket statements that people make without offering any insight.

[BEEZERAL]

I didn't quote because it was long. But you have some great points. I've been very hard on temple and ship. My reasoning is that while yes the best 16 teams should be at nationals regardless of region, I don't believe a team should be given a bid to nationals if they haven't beaten a team over .500 but play in a strong conference. You are correct in saying that this weekend is their opportunity to earn a bid. But basically u hit the nail on the head. Great post.

[catch]

the obvious solution would seem to be to take 20 teams. ultimately it would be a matter of another 6-8 hours. When you look at all of the regions 20 teams would encompass every team who deserves to be there.

[hockey1]

I didn't quote because it was long. But you have some great points. I've been very hard on temple and ship. My reasoning is that while yes the best 16 teams should be at nationals regardless of region, I don't believe a team should be given a bid to nationals if they haven't beaten a team over .500 but play in a strong conference. You are correct in saying that this weekend is their opportunity to earn a bid. But basically u hit the nail on the head. Great post.

Temple beat Neumann (who has an over .500 hundred record). We realize that it is tough to beat the big 4 in the east so we try to travel out of region every year to prove ourselves against other top teams, but unfortunately this year we only played one top team (Grand Valley) in the event we went to. We were looking forward to facing GMU (last second drop out of the Pitt tournament) and ECU (for some reason we were not scheduled to play them in Pitt), but it did not happen.

[dan sangiorgio]

Years ago the ecrha could send 5 or 6 teams but now since the year rule most middle of the pack teams are about the same level regardless of region. I could see the ecrha number 5 team getting the first alternate bid but it's hard to imagine the number 5 ecrha team getting in over most second place teams

[PureHockey111]

Temple beat Neumann (who has an over .500 hundred record). We realize that it is tough to beat the big 4 in the east so we try to travel out of region every year to prove ourselves against other top teams, but unfortunately this year we only played one top team (Grand Valley) in the event we went to. We were looking forward to facing GMU (last second drop out of the Pitt tournament) and ECU (for some reason we were not scheduled to play them in Pitt), but it did not happen.

that sounds just like mason trying to play a team like tampa, luckily we were able to get scheduled against miami so we could raise the strength of our schedule. although with this upcoming weekend i doubt anyone will really question the strength of our schedule playing rowan, brockport, and neumann. and we didnt back out at the last minute for the pitt tourny like it seemed, we told them we werent playing and for some reason that email never made it and they still scheduled us. although that would have been a great tourny to go to.

[show2606]

Nothing against Ship and Temple but they would never get through all four of the top teams in ECRHA. WIth that being said, I don't believe they deserve a bid. I am expecting GMU to beat ship, and if GMU doesn't, they probably shouldn't get a bid either. If either Temple or Ship found a way to win regionals and go, more power to them. And Bill that post was way too long. I do enough reading for class.

[BEEZERAL]

Nothing against Ship and Temple but they would never get through all four of the top teams in ECRHA. WIth that being said, I don't believe they deserve a bid. I am expecting GMU to beat ship, and if GMU doesn't, they probably shouldn't get a bid either. If either Temple or Ship found a way to win regionals and go, more power to them. And Bill that post was way too long. I do enough reading for class.

wait, you read for class???

why do you think im on these boards all the time. this is much more important/entertaining then learning
:D

[GMU18]

Temple beat Neumann (who has an over .500 hundred record). We realize that it is tough to beat the big 4 in the east so we try to travel out of region every year to prove ourselves against other top teams, but unfortunately this year we only played one top team (Grand Valley) in the event we went to. We were looking forward to facing GMU (last second drop out of the Pitt tournament) and ECU (for some reason we were not scheduled to play them in Pitt), but it did not happen.


If i were temple or shipp i wouldn't even want to go to nationals, as they know at least 4 of the teams there are going to kill them, and their likely to get killed by the rest of the teams. If my team isn't going to be competitive i wouldn't plan on going.

[hockeykid12]

Does that mean if gmu loses to Rowan brockport and Neumann this wkend then you guys will not go to nationals? Lol

[GMU18]

Does that mean if gmu loses to Rowan brockport and Neumann this wkend then you guys will not go to nationals? Lol

I can't speak for my team, but if we get killed i will not be attending nationals.

[GMU18]

However this weekend will be interesting as one of our top players, Mike Zyuzin, most likely won't be able to play due to injury.

[William Bourque]

And Bill that post was way too long. I do enough reading for class.

I find it very hard to believe that you know how to read. ;)

[Chapwi]

I can't speak for my team, but if we get killed i will not be attending nationals.

Hockey in Cali (during a week of school)...idc if im playing the USA team...i want to be there.

[BEEZERAL]

Hockey in Cali (during a week of school)...idc if im playing the USA team...i want to be there.

I wouldnt care if im the worst team there. I just want to go and miss a week of school

[itan]

I can't speak for my team, but if we get killed i will not be attending nationals.

Is that a promise!?

[PureHockey111]

all the money that goes into nationals really isnt worth it if we dont win at least half our games... i dunno about everyone else but these tournaments are literally raping my savings account.

[GMULensing7]

gmu seems to like to talk about there "dangles" I dont think they realize the type of hockey that east plays, the level of talent is above the south, there in for a wake up call

damn hockeykid12...ha do you think we have never left Virginia or never played on a travel team before? our top players has been up to new york and penn countless times, we know there is some dirty ass hockey up there. i know how the east plays. they control the puck. plus there is a lot more stick work up there. i also agree with you that it is above the south, but its not up to us what division we are in...and obviously we aren't going to be dangling everywhere when you guys come down, we are just trying to lighten up these forums...now if we were saying that we were going to come away with 4 wins then yea you can start saying stuff, but i don't think anyone from our team has even said we will beat people except maybe shipp. but hey if you want to keep belittling the south go for it, but don't act like we have never gone more north than Maryland.

[GoRangrHky]

You guys could play in the ECRHA- JMU did for years. Not saying you should look to move, but your travel time would be less than half of that of most of the ECRHA teams to their events.

[GMU18]

You guys could play in the ECRHA- JMU did for years. Not saying you should look to move, but your travel time would be less than half of that of most of the ECRHA teams to their events.

I'm thinking GMU should move to the ecrha next year.

[GMULensing7]

Brockport may have beat us on the rink, but we dominated them in the raffle!!!! we just wanted it more...

[CSteamer]

Is GMU trying to set the all time record for most posts by one school? Do yall text each other when a new post is made in a thread and make sure you all get to the nearest computer ASAP and respond?

[GMULensing7]

Is GMU trying to set the all time record for most posts by one school? Do yall text each other when a new post is made in a thread and make sure you all get to the nearest computer ASAP and respond?

sir have you ever tried to sit through a college lecture...

[CSteamer]

sir have you ever tried to sit through a college lecture...

Currently in first year of grad school...sat through A LOT of college lectures. I was just messing with you kids. There are like 4 or 5 of you plus your coach who is all over these boards.

[GMU18]

Is GMU trying to set the all time record for most posts by one school? Do yall text each other when a new post is made in a thread and make sure you all get to the nearest computer ASAP and respond?

We are in the same classes so like to mantain one person checking these.. a game of hangman.. someone taking notes (rare).

[FAUplayer]

I must agree with these Mason guys. I am browsing numerous pages at all times in classes. What's more interesting, learning about drainage patterns and grading for parking lots and roads, or reading people bitch why there hockey team is better? :D Easy choice

[BEEZERAL]

I must agree with these Mason guys. I am browsing numerous pages at all times in classes. What's more interesting, learning about drainage patterns and grading for parking lots and roads, or reading people bitch why there hockey team is better? :D Easy choice

agreed but substitute in business classes

[PureHockey111]

At times i even wonder why i attend class still cause i never pay attention im just on these forums or sleeping.

[FAUplayer]

agreed but substitute in business classes

Even better, next three semesters I get Architecture Professional Practice classes. Pretty much the business aspects behind architecture firms. FML.

[PureHockey111]

Even better, next three semesters I get Architecture Professional Practice classes. Pretty much the business aspects behind architecture firms. FML.

Being a freshman has its perks when your taking bull**** gen ed classes:D

[MasonHockey]

agreed but substitute in business classes

Gentlemen let me tell you it doesn't get much better. You guys think college classes are bad... try boring work stuff :)

Think about it, you guys are paying money to learn the BS they are making you read... The stuff I'm doing is so boring they have to pay me...

Reading these boards is heck more fun than working, and given the fact that this is our second year it helps to gain information about how teams are and how things work in the NCRHA and SECRHL. Obviously, Csteamer (I believe it's Caudy right?) you must hate these boards a lot with your 131 posts? Besides just reading these boards tonight we heard a rumor the USF isn't coming to SECRHL regionals... good info...

[FAUplayer]

A lot of good info can be had, and for a small fee, I can tell you a foolproof plan to score on the UM goalie.... ;) :p :D

haha sorry alex

[PureHockey111]

A lot of good info can be had, and for a small fee, I can tell you a foolproof plan to score on the UM goalie.... ;) :p :D

haha sorry alex

shh beezeral may be listening!:eek: nah but if you must know the worser of the twins has got to be drew. that man's ankles are at a crumbling status 24/7. the man corners like an elephant.

[GMU18]

A lot of good info can be had, and for a small fee, I can tell you a foolproof plan to score on the UM goalie.... ;) :p :D

haha sorry alex


Yea so predictions for Rowan vs Neumann for NCRHA regionals?
A bet was placed on the results, me saying Rowan over Neumann.
Cam lensing saying Neumann over Rowan.

I said Rowan since they work together and their goals against were based on strong passing plays.

Cam said Neumann cause he thought they were more individually skilled. ( Cam also always think teams with sick jersey are sick) Neumanns jersey are awesome, while i think rowan could make some improvements to their jerseys. ;)

[BEEZERAL]

Yea so predictions for Rowan vs Neumann for NCRHA regionals?
A bet was placed on the results, me saying Rowan over Neumann.
Cam lensing saying Neumann over Rowan.

I said Rowan since they work together and their goals against were based on strong passing plays.

Cam said Neumann cause he thought they were more individually skilled. ( Cam also always think teams with sick jersey are sick) Neumanns jersey are awesome, while i think rowan could make some improvements to their jerseys. ;)

add some references to jersey shore plus some fist pumping and this sounds just like a convo between the Shuman brothers

[BEEZERAL]

A lot of good info can be had, and for a small fee, I can tell you a foolproof plan to score on the UM goalie.... ;) :p :D

haha sorry alex

I'll give it to you for free. Pay for him to eat as much as he wants at waffle house.

[MasonHockey]

Yea so predictions for Rowan vs Neumann for NCRHA regionals?
A bet was placed on the results, me saying Rowan over Neumann.
Cam lensing saying Neumann over Rowan.

I said Rowan since they work together and their goals against were based on strong passing plays.

Cam said Neumann cause he thought they were more individually skilled. ( Cam also always think teams with sick jersey are sick) Neumanns jersey are awesome, while i think rowan could make some improvements to their jerseys. ;)

That kind of insight is why nobody asks college freshmen their opinions often... :) Especialy from Mason. Seriously sick Jerseys and Rowan because their goals against were based on strong passing plays? yet we only scored 2 on Neumann and 5 on Rowan...

DUH! everyone knows teams with matching gloves and helmets wins:) Especially if they have Icy White pants and Marrioti:) I got Neumann.

[PureHockey111]

A lot of good info can be had, and for a small fee, I can tell you a foolproof plan to score on the UM goalie.... ;) :p :D

haha sorry alex

resort from giving anyone on mason bojangles or flautas. the consumption will not stop.

[GSJaguars11]

so lots of new things to talk about here with some of the regionals wrapping up. figured id bump this to the top

[GMU18]

so lots of new things to talk about here with some of the regionals wrapping up. figured id bump this to the top

Lets start it off with how GMU18 should have had 3-5 goals against KSU and didn't score.. Im going to practice scoring on open nets.

[PureHockey111]

Lets start it off with how GMU18 should have had 3-5 goals against KSU and didn't score.. Im going to practice scoring on open nets.

we will set up that shooter tutor for you and you can snipe glove high and then we might bump you up to a u10 game. that might be pushing it though...

[show2606]

you should grab Demitra from slovakia because he cant hit an empty net either

[GMULensing7]

you should grab Demitra from slovakia because he cant hit an empty net either

i think a bright orange cone would be a step up for GMU18. make that two cones though cause i didnt do **** at regionals either. and we are already in negotiations with Demitra's agent...

[William Bourque]

and we are already in negotiations with Demitra's agent...

If Demitra decides to enroll at GMU, I heard all he asks for is a Full Meal Plan, no 8am classes and credit for hockey experience.


Sadly, I would have to protest his eligibility and he would be ineligible to play. :eek: