B division

[danglsauce]

So whats the deal with the schools that have 2 B teams...can they combine or is it the team thats at regionals? Either way there will be plenty of danglsauce

[NCRHA]

Schools with more than one B team can only send one team to Nationals. They can roster any player on either B team that satisfies the eligibility/games played requirements.

So yes, they can combine teams.

[danglsauce]

I think Lindenwood did that in pittsbrgh...but lets see if they can repeat...out of region they're 1-2

[Calig]

Lindenwood has a very good team without combining teams. I think that their team along with Buffalo and Grand Valley State are teams to watch out for. Who does everyone think is the Contender and who are the sleeper teams in the B division?

[danglsauce]

Penn State played pretty much perfect in regionals so they can do some damage...I can see the final four being Buffalo Lindenwood UC Santa Barba and Penn State

[TUcoach]

Don't over look Penn State, they were on fire at regionals...without a doubt the best team that weekend. West chester is another team to look out for...well coached and very discipline, definite sleeper team. It should be interesting this year, I see a lot of great games in the B Div...maybe even a few upsets ;).

[UmmaDoMe23]

Don't over look Penn State, they were on fire a regionals...without a doubt the best team that weekend. West chester is another team to look out for...well coached and very discipline, definite sleeper team. It should be interesting this year, I see a lot of great games in the B Div...maybe even a few upsets ;).

I was just about to say I think that PSU is a huge sleeper going into nationals. Expect Grand Valley and MSU to both make noise at nationals too. Grand Valley is stacked with no one great, but just solid players, and MSU should be very motivated after playing sluggish all weekend at regionals.

[danglsauce]

Murphy,
i dont think Jeff Elias would be happy with the jokes... i heard hes going to Towson for grad school...well he always wears a Towson sweatshirt around the UB campus

[TUcoach]

I'll give a shout out to Buffalo boys as well... when 100% healthy, they were the most dominate and consistent team in the East. If they show up to national with Elias and Werner injury free, look out!

Hows that Danglsauce?...Good Luck to all the teams!

[danglsauce]

I wasnt looking for a shoutout just bustin Jeff's chops but thanks we'll make the ECRHA proud

[William Bourque]

Don't over look Penn State, they were on fire at regionals...without a doubt the best team that weekend. West chester is another team to look out for...well coached and very discipline, definite sleeper team. It should be interesting this year, I see a lot of great games in the B Div...maybe even a few upsets ;).


I'll give a shout out to Buffalo boys as well... when 100% healthy, they were the most dominate and consistent team in the East. If they show up to national with Elias and Werner injury free, look out!

Hows that Danglsauce?...Good Luck to all the teams!


Oh, my God! I just gagged and vomited at the same time. I gavomited.

HAHA...just playing...

[shawnwright9]

Going back to the top of the page, I think its a bit ridiculous that teams are capable of combining. There is no reason you should allow two teams to combine in any sense, its not fair to any other team and its not even fair to the people involved. The individuals that weren't on the team that got selected should not get to go, because they did not win. The only reason why those kids get to go is because they go to the same school and play in the same league...give me a break. The team that gets selected should be the team that goes, end of story.

[teamcarramrod]

Going back to the top of the page, I think its a bit ridiculous that teams are capable of combining. There is no reason you should allow two teams to combine in any sense, its not fair to any other team and its not even fair to the people involved. The individuals that weren't on the team that got selected should not get to go, because they did not win. The only reason why those kids get to go is because they go to the same school and play in the same league...give me a break. The team that gets selected should be the team that goes, end of story.

its not like they are stacking their team anymore. the better b team won, meaning the better b team players are already on that team. if anything they are adding a few border line players to go, and maybe a goalie. its not like the two teams have extremely stacked rosters and they are making a super team. that would be the d1 team.

[danglsauce]

These schools could just as easily done this from the beginning...but i would rather more teams and if one team can win then why not allow them to send the best team the school can. This is really no different then B players play on the A team if only the A team makes nationals

[McLovin]

Going back to the top of the page, I think its a bit ridiculous that teams are capable of combining. There is no reason you should allow two teams to combine in any sense, its not fair to any other team and its not even fair to the people involved. The individuals that weren't on the team that got selected should not get to go, because they did not win. The only reason why those kids get to go is because they go to the same school and play in the same league...give me a break. The team that gets selected should be the team that goes, end of story.

Ok, so you would rather have a team like Lindenwood stack their best players on one B team for the season rather than split them amongst both teams to make things more even? I mean, if a school wants to try to even out it's B teams for the sake of parity in their regional play, then why not let them? I mean, they are taking a chance on neither team getting an invite to nationals anyway, aren't they? Well if you won't let them combine their rosters at the end of the season, then they will just stack one and have a great team and a not so great team. Whats the point in that?

Finally, its the B division, so who really gives a sh&t? Who wants to be the JV national champion anyway?

McLovin

[danglsauce]

Hey i won the JV county championship in high school and it was frickin sweet

[Calig]

well Mclovin, first of all, a lot of these B ('JV' teams) that are going to nationals could beat a lot of schools A teams. Maybe not the best teams at nationals, but they would at least hold their own in conference. It makes sense when you think about it like this: If a team has a strong A team, then some of the the players that don't make the team out of tryouts are more then good enough to be in the league, just there is only so many guys you can take on a roller hockey roster. Hence there is a secondary league. I would love to see teams like Lindenwood and Buffalo's B teams play some of the teams that are going to nationals in A. It would be a pretty rude awakening for some teams. It makes sense that when you compare the D1/D2 rankings to the B rankings there are a lot of similar names.

[Snipes09]

Ok, so you would rather have a team like Lindenwood stack their best players on one B team for the season rather than split them amongst both teams to make things more even? I mean, if a school wants to try to even out it's B teams for the sake of parity in their regional play, then why not let them? I mean, they are taking a chance on neither team getting an invite to nationals anyway, aren't they? Well if you won't let them combine their rosters at the end of the season, then they will just stack one and have a great team and a not so great team. Whats the point in that?

Finally, its the B division, so who really gives a sh&t? Who wants to be the JV national champion anyway?

McLovin

I do and I'm sure the 12 teams traveling to Feasterville in April want to win as well. Besides that McLovin if the B division is "sh&t" why are you posting on these forums. Shouldn't you be filling up some D1 teams water bottles right now anyways. Joke

[kleinberg13]

To me its a bit more satisfying to make nationals when only 12 out of 50+ are taken, than when 24 out of 40+ are taken for D1. If we did the way our D1 team did at regionals, 0-4-0, we would have had zero chance at a bid, but in D1 they still made it.
As for predictions for B, look out for buffalo, lindenwood, psu, umsl, santa barbara, hell anybody can make a run. Can't say the same for D1

[McLovin]

well Mclovin, first of all, a lot of these B ('JV' teams) that are going to nationals could beat a lot of schools A teams. Maybe not the best teams at nationals, but they would at least hold their own in conference. It makes sense when you think about it like this: If a team has a strong A team, then some of the the players that don't make the team out of tryouts are more then good enough to be in the league, just there is only so many guys you can take on a roller hockey roster. Hence there is a secondary league. I would love to see teams like Lindenwood and Buffalo's B teams play some of the teams that are going to nationals in A. It would be a pretty rude awakening for some teams. It makes sense that when you compare the D1/D2 rankings to the B rankings there are a lot of similar names.

Fine, but my point still is if they aren't even good enough to make their A team, should they really be competing for a 'national' title? And what does it mean? I mean think about it. What if Lindenwood could enter a team in DI, a team in DII and a team in the B division and win all three? What does that say? or what if all of the teams played in one division and Lindenwood DI could play Lindenwood B for the DI national title?

I'm sure if they could that USC could have a 'B' squad in NCAA Football and they could probably beat Idaho State's A team, but who cares? Who cares if USC had a B football team and they beat Florida's B team for the NCAA Football B division National Championship. It's a little ridiculous.

There comes a point where what really matters is the best team from each school playing head to head. If you want to matter, make your school's primary team. Otherwise, just have fun playing and work hard so maybe you can make the team the next year.

[danglsauce]

Your last sentence was what made sense. The only thing is its easier to work hard when you are working towards a torphy. Not that you shouldnt work to make the A team because that is the point of a B team. Also many D1 and 3 ice hockey schools have club teams that act as feeders to their varsity team should they not play for something. Also whats wrong with more players getting a chance to play for a national title. You can talk to your ACC rep to get rid of the B division national championship

[Snipes09]

Finally, its the B division, so who really gives a sh&t? Who wants to be the JV national champion anyway?

McLovin

If your arguing that the B division doesn't deserve a national champion then your also saying that their should be no division II or Junior College championships either. Because lets face it the division I national champion is obviously far superior to DII and JC.

[Calig]

haha Mclovin you're theory is ridiculous. Do you play for Lindenwood? cause if you don't basically what your saying is you don't deserve to go to nationals? haha

[McLovin]

If your arguing that the B division doesn't deserve a national champion then your also saying that their should be no division II or Junior College championships either. Because lets face it the division I national champion is obviously far superior to DII and JC.

No, you guys are missing the point here. DII teams are still the primary team from their school, just not as organized (or talented?) as DI teams. JC teams by nature can't choose to play DI or DII, since their academic requirements are less rigid.

Also, don't get me wrong, I certainly see value in having B teams as feeder teams for their primary teams. And I respect the guys that toil on their B teams in hopes of making the A team in the future, or just want to have fun. That's great! But I just think that their season ought to end at the regional level, that there is not much point in having a national champion of JV teams.

That said, I also respect those of you who feel differently, and I appreciate the arguments you make. Makes for a good conversation.

McLovin

[RichardGraham]

McLovin!

Nice fake I.D., dude. ;)

[Narchy]

Mclovin, if you don't mind me asking, what D1 team do you play for?

[Dead34]

Dear McLovin,

To even argue that B teams don't deserve to play towards the goal of a national title is just retarded; why even have a B division if they're not supposed to play for anything other than making the A team? I played A for two years and made the choice to play B this year for several reasons - not being good enough was not one of them. By your logic, I should have just quit playing because I had already achieved the ultimate goal - "playing for the A team." Instead, I - along with anyone else who watches games in the ncrha recognized the competitive nature of the B division and kept playing. I know in the ecrha specifically, there are a number of players that have also made the choice to play B over A. In addition, you make the argument that D2 and JC divisions have the right to play for a title.. Well, I think that if our B team were allowed to play in D2 we would run middle of the pack in the ecrha, which is arguably the most competitive division in the ncrha - and I know there are other B teams like Buffalo and Lindenwood that could easily compete in D2 as well. So if you're suggesting that D2 and JC are worthy, but B isn't because they're not as competitive or skilled than you've ultimately just contradicted yourself. That said, I know how hard we have worked in order to play in the tourny that you have deemed completely unnecessary, but to answer your question..."so who really gives a sh&t? Who wants to be the JV national champion anyway?"

The twelve teams going, while you most likely sit at home.

Sincerly,
Dead34

[Drexel63]

Too many people looking for bulletin board material...

Anyway, a small point to counter McLovin... the AHL has playoffs nationally, as does every minor NHL affiliate league down the pipeline. They don't end their regular season without crowning a champion, and people pay to see those playoff games, and follow those "B" teams with passion and loyalty...

And what does winning a championship in the B division mean? It means that 9 months of hard work paid off in the best way possible, and your school was the best on that day and that year...

Drexel's B team won the ECRHA championship in 2003. I wish they had the opportunity to take their show on the road, and prove more about how good Drexel was that year, in that division. They deserved that chance, but that was the season before the NCRHA formed, and the season before a B division was held at Nationals...

[UmmaDoMe23]

McLovin is just saying stupid, uneducated things to get a response, and it worked, its pretty clear this kid knows nothing about collegiate roller hockey. Another thing, enough with the talk about how competitive each conference is, We will find out how they stack up at Nationals. Right now there is no point in even talking about it because everyone doesn't play each other. In my opinion this is what is holding the NCRHA back from taking that next big step, although the Pittsburgh weekend was a small step in the right direction, out of conference play neeeeeeds to happen way more. This way everyone can actually see how the conferences stack up and stop crying about the slammhockey ratings.

[Calig]

I completley agree with UmmaDoMe23. We played at Pittsburgh, in B, and it was great. The overall caliber of hockey was far beyond anything I had seen at any event outside of nationals, and not just college nationals. Every hour or so there was a great matchup that was great to watch. We played Lindenwood and the stands were full, and yes that was a B division matchup.

We could go ahead and get back to who people think is going to excel at nationals in B again and disregard the nonsense...

[MissionPlaya17]

Calig and UmmaDoMe make very great points and I also like what Drexel63 said about them winning the B championship in 2003. This argument is a complete waste of time because cleary McLovin knows nothing about college roller hockey, as stated before. Each division has it's own level of competition. Everyone needs to leave this kid alone because he is obviously just saying stuff to tick everyone off. As a B player myself in the ECRHA, I know how competitive it is and how hard we all work to get that oh so difficult bid to nationals. So I think everyone should focus on nationals, for those teams going, or working towards next year.

[Snipes09]

Danglesauce said it before and I'll say it again I think the last 4 teams will be Lindenwood, Santa Barbara, Buffalo and Penn State. Its going to be interesting to see what polls are put together though because you know each game will be a tough game. Can't wait to see what everyone brings in April.

[William Bourque]

In my opinion this is what is holding the NCRHA back from taking that next big step, although the Pittsburgh weekend was a small step in the right direction, out of conference play neeeeeeds to happen way more. This way everyone can actually see how the conferences stack up and stop crying about the slammhockey ratings.

The problem will continue to be there unless the NCRHA mandates out of region play to qualify for the national tournament or the teams take it upon themselves and make the commitment to travel out of region and play games. Every team that is going to national this year in DI has played at least one game against a non-regional opponents. With so many teams running on a such a tight budget, I don't see either happening in the near future.

[danglsauce]

Well being a Buffalo guy...we are only about 6 hours away from some michigan tournaments so depending on my position next year we may have to go there for an exhibition instead of the luxurious 7 hour trip to feasterville...not that i dont going to feasterville 7 times a year

[thereal54]

It's a good thing that no one from D2 is reading this as they would probably also get ticked at the insinuation made earlier that D2 is some how "less talented" then D1. Have you seen Nueman amoung a lot of other really tallented teams in D2? Stony Brook moved up to D1 last season from D2 and started romping on them too so... yeah, clearly someone playing hockey just to tell their friends they play "D1" hockey when in the end it's all about havin fun regaurdless of where your fall happens to play.

[kleinberg13]

Well being a Buffalo guy...we are only about 6 hours away from some michigan tournaments so depending on my position next year we may have to go there for an exhibition instead of the luxurious 7 hour trip to feasterville...not that i dont going to feasterville 7 times a year

Damn danglsauce, it makes me appreciate so much more that we only have to drive 3 hours and I get to sleep at my own house. I will say though it would be cool to travel to other regions to play during the season

[danglsauce]

yeah well our shortest trip was a 5 drive to pittsburgh in a blizzard when i had a close encounter with a gaurd rail so be thankful for the short rides...cause the only thing worse then a 3 hour drive to feasterville is a 7 hour ride

[McLovin]

McLovin!

Nice fake I.D., dude. ;)

No, I'm 21! Really, I am!

McL

[GripperWheels]

posted "Every team that is going to national this year in DI has played at least one game against a non-regional opponents. With so many teams running on a such a tight budget, I don't see either happening in the near future. "

I don't think so....Eastern Michigan went down to Winter Nationals and out of Region and they did not get a bid. Strong region with UofM beatings UCF the Souths region Champion.
So just stay home in your own region because they will not look at the overall record just the reguler season record.
Just like Slamm hockey did not look at the overall record

[kennywoo]

hey danglsause.... i think you need to stop dangling and start shooting... by the way i think the speed out of that buffalo kid is ridiculous

[JLambertUMSL]

posted "Every team that is going to national this year in DI has played at least one game against a non-regional opponents. With so many teams running on a such a tight budget, I don't see either happening in the near future. "

I don't think so....Eastern Michigan went down to Winter Nationals and out of Region and they did not get a bid. Strong region with UofM beatings UCF the Souths region Champion.
So just stay home in your own region because they will not look at the overall record just the reguler season record.
Just like Slamm hockey did not look at the overall record

12-16 is a good overall record?

[thereal54]

yeah well our shortest trip was a 5 drive to pittsburgh in a blizzard when i had a close encounter with a gaurd rail so be thankful for the short rides...cause the only thing worse then a 3 hour drive to feasterville is a 7 hour ride

We did a 540 off the road last year on the way to Regionals :p they delayed the game 30 minutes til we were able to (safely) get there.

[Snipes09]

Hey danglesauce, are you the kid that 'yelps" during the game if you get stuffed on a shot or stripped of the puck?

[danglsauce]

nah i think that is kennywoo...its a death cty of some sort...i dont fully understand it...and it cant be me because i dont take slapshots

[kleinberg13]

B DIVISION
Pool A
Lindenwood University B
Pennsylvania State University B
Michigan State University B
Saddleback College B

Pool B
University of Central Florida B
West Chester University B
University of Missouri, St. Louis B
University of Texas Arlington B

Pool C
State University of New York at Buffalo B
Grand Valley State University B
University of California, Santa Barbara B
Colorado State University B


These are the B pools. Anybody have any thoughts on them?

[Calig]

haha my thoughts are that they NCRHA loves seeing LIndenwood-Michigan State as much as possible at this point. IN the last 3 years, they have squared off 4 times already, with at least one more guaranteed at this years nationals. I don't know how Penn State or Saddleback look this year so that should be interesting. Other brackets should be interesting too, though. I'm curious to see the Grand Valley- Buffalo game, and of course, I'm going to check out an UMSL game too. Good Luck To Everyone...

[danglsauce]

The ol b is the weakest no offense to those teams...Penn State is gonna have to play like did at regionals they shut down every team...also there will plenty of danglsauce in that Grand Valley State-Buffalo game

[GongMaster]

The Grand Valley Buffalo game will be played in Midwest fashion. Probably not a whole lot of danglesauce, but you can expect a lot of clappers, probably to the sound of machine gun fire.

[Calig]

haha machine gun clappers! Whats the story on this Penn State team, they come out with a new team second semester? They are undefeated and it looks like a completely different story than first semester....

[danglsauce]

i dunno if you have seen buffalo play but less than half us can take clappers

[kleinberg13]

haha machine gun clappers! Whats the story on this Penn State team, they come out with a new team second semester? They are undefeated and it looks like a completely different story than first semester....

It was plain and simple for us. We had people hurt first semester. When we went to pitt first semester we went without 3 good skaters. Over winter break we got healthy and we are now playing to our potential.

[Snipes09]

It was plain and simple for us. We had people hurt first semester. When we went to pitt first semester we went without 3 good skaters. Over winter break we got healthy and we are now playing to our potential.

To add onto this our goalie is playing amazing. He held Buffalo score less for 34 minutes (the sauce was empty that game)

[danglsauce]

dont worry the sauce got refilled for nattys

[JLambertUMSL]

To add onto this our goalie is playing amazing. He held Buffalo score less for 34 minutes (the sauce was empty that game)

I will be pulling for you guys. After playing you twice at Nationals last year, I've got nothing but good things to say about you.

[thereal54]

I will be pulling for you guys. After playing you twice at Nationals last year, I've got nothing but good things to say about you.

I highly doubt you'll be pulling for us if we play against you again ;) Great games last year though; guys are a class act and that's not true of everyone there.

[billbuckner]

danglesauce u should yell when u get stripped of the puck cuz that happens pretty often...do u really think those saucer passes into the net are guna hold up at nationals?

[danglsauce]

i dunno if that the saucer pass shots will go in...but as long as we read up on the rulebook and drop our sticks when they break we should be fine

[billbuckner]

yea we know the rules, but we can't always follow them... like that narchy kid for instance...hes always taking penalties and arguing wit the refs even tho he knows what he did