d2 bids

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Central Michigan
Florida Atlantic
Grand Valley State
Kennessaw State
Metro State
Missouri State
Neumann
Northern Colorado
Rowan
SIU Edwardsville
Tampa
Texas Dallas
Truman State
UC San Diego
USC
West Chester

Alternates

#1 Cincinnati
#2 Brockport
#3 University of San Diego
#4 Elon


i gotta say, i'm pretty surprised great plains got 3 teams.

[MOSTATE91]

we had a pretty tough division i might add

[stopthetrain]

i gotta say, i'm pretty surprised great plains got 3 teams.[/QUOTE]

No wonder the train is derailed at work. Watching the internet at 2 a.m. just to complain about Edwardsville. Train get over it, it was not called a penalty when you had the caboose removed. No more pain pills.

[train]

No wonder the train is derailed at work. Watching the internet at 2 a.m. just to complain about Edwardsville. Train get over it, it was not called a penalty when you had the caboose removed. No more pain pills.
shouldn't you be working? and that was jacobs at 2 am, not the sarge.

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sargeant train you are correct it says 12:14 a.m. your desk sits empty at this moment. no i have no idea what time you get to work. as to dr. greenthumb his post was at 2 a.m. Ned Sanders was over at the doctors last night.

[rowanhockey]

would have though the east would have got 4 bids, surprised also

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I know nothing about USC hockey, but based off of their .500 season and versus the records of Brockport, Shippensburg and West Carolina, i have to wonder if Pete Carroll had 10 votes.

[GSJaguars11]

I'm happy to see siu edwardsville got in. I have been wanting to play them and try to keep that one kid off the score sheet.
Also, i'm surprised the ecrha didnt get 4 or even 5 teams in

[GongMaster]

It isn't hard to keep one guys off a score sheet. The ECRHA got the short end of the stick this year with DII bids. There are only two teams in the Great Plains that should have recieved bids. Truman and Missouri State.

[teamcarramrod]

It isn't hard to keep one guys off a score sheet. The ECRHA got the short end of the stick this year with DII bids. There are only two teams in the Great Plains that should have recieved bids. Truman and Missouri State.

im not sure if lindenwood was trying when they played siue, but walker had 5 goals and an assist. try keeping him off the scoreboard.

[William Bourque]

im not sure if lindenwood was trying when they played siue, but walker had 5 goals and an assist. try keeping him off the scoreboard.

He may have scored 5 goals against Lindenwood, but there were plenty of other teams that contained him this season. If he gets a hat trick and his teams loses 4-3 then the goals don't mean much. Also, considering that they didn't win a game against either Missouri State or Truman State or Grand Valley this year, he might not have such an easy time scoring and winning at nationals.

[train]

He may have scored 5 goals against Lindenwood, but there were plenty of other teams that contained him this season. If he gets a hat trick and his teams loses 4-3 then the goals don't mean much. Also, considering that they didn't win a game against either Missouri State or Truman State or Grand Valley this year, he might not have such an easy time scoring and winning at nationals.
for being a first year team, siu-e has done a great job getting a bid to nationals. that being said, they didn't beat a team with a record over .500, so philly should be an interesting experience for them.

[GongMaster]

He is a good player I am not going to argue that. He has good hands and can pick corners really well however he is really a one sided player when his team doesnt have the puck he doesnt play any real sort of defense. I believe that Edwardsville was given a bid simply because they have Walker, who is the top points leader in DII, and Possibly that a single player can make people excited to watch some DII games. I believe that a team like Brockport should have gotten the bid however. When it comes to nationals teams with a talent in only a few players, and teams that rely on just a few individuals never fair well. Also nationals is about defense, so I dont think he will be putting up big points come nationals.

[STLHockey]

He may have scored 5 goals against Lindenwood, but there were plenty of other teams that contained him this season. If he gets a hat trick and his teams loses 4-3 then the goals don't mean much. Also, considering that they didn't win a game against either Missouri State or Truman State or Grand Valley this year, he might not have such an easy time scoring and winning at nationals.

Contained him? The guy had 108 points in 18 games, okay UMSL, St. Charles, and Grand Valley contained him. Not sure if I wouldn call that "plenty of teams".

Quit pouting because your team didn't get in. They have been terrible in years past at Nationals, so this should come as no surprise.

I would doubt that the alternates would beat Missouri State, Grand Valley, or Truman. SIUE tied Missouri State, who beat Grand Valley. Also, it is tough to beat teams that have over a .500 record when 8 of 11 teams in the Great Plains have records below .500. The selection comittee did it right this time, SIUE will be exciting to watch.

[nickstur]

how the hell did Shipp not get a bid?

They're a dangerous team when they are playing their best. I saw a game Shipp vs Rowan it wasn't even a game.

[GSJaguars11]

ugh that was a fluke game, when we played them in regionals it wasnt a game our way. brockport would deserve it over shippensburg, another team no one is mentioning is drexel, i think they are a lot better than shipp and brockport

[RowanPhil]

did you see the regional game ship vs rowan????? 2 teams at their best playing.....

[William Bourque]

Quit pouting because your team didn't get in. They have been terrible in years past at Nationals, so this should come as no surprise.

Pouting? I never even mentioned my team once.

[rowanhockey]

how the hell did Shipp not get a bid?

They're a dangerous team when they are playing their best. I saw a game Shipp vs Rowan it wasn't even a game.


How can you go by one game, shipp is a good team but we beat them when it counted and that was in regionals, also even if they were to get a bid brockport would deserve it first over them, brockport beat ship both times they played this year.

[GSJaguars11]

How can you go by one game, shipp is a good team but we beat them when it counted and that was in regionals, also even if they were to get a bid brockport would deserve it first over them, brockport beat ship both times they played this year.

who is this?

[CRadigan]

I was able to catch the second day of Great Plains' regionals, and in my opinion SIUE does not deserve a bid. I don't want to take away from a decent season, especially considering it is their first in the league.

I've been out of the league for two years, but I refuse to believe that the level of competition will be lower at nationals this year than the nationals I participated in in 2007, especially considering there are only 16 teams that will attend. If that is the case, SIUE won't, IMO, do well at all. Their game against MO State was a good game, but the score did not reflect the action of the game. SIUE's goalie stood on his head and the MSU team that played was not the team that soundly beat Truman that evening. I'm not sure if they looked past SIU or were holding back, but Truman and MSU are head and shoulders above SIUE. They have a couple talented players in addition to Walker, but none that I would take above the top 8-9 from either TSU and MSU.

They tied a MO State team that was without Shah, and have no other even remotely impressive games on their resume let alone an impressive win. I am a big GP supporter, but have the feeling they will be less than competitive at nationals.

Good luck to everyone who got a bid and will be attending. I'm eager to see the results.

[GongMaster]

I agree with mentioned above. I believe that if the league is to take only 16 out of 60 teams in DII with 7 of those being autobids it is always going to be tough to determine region strength without more cross region play. Hats off to all the teams that made the effort to get in out of region play. I think that the league should do a better job at trying to organize games or weekends that will match top region teams against each other at the start of the second semester. I believe that the ECRHA weekend with teams from the midwest, great plains, and southeast was great for DI and should be done in DII as well that way problems like this can be avoided. Also teams that feel they might be on the bubble as to whether or not they will recieve a bid should notice this and make a stronger effort to play out of region games.

[Leaferguy]

I talked to a guy from Drexel. It wasn't their year this year.

On the plus side, they all got shoes unders from the school as a consolation gift. They're the invisible kind, so the team just throws their shoes under their bed. If the rumors are true and they get team Snuggies next year, watch out.


Congrats to the teams that made it, especially an impressive Rowan team making it in their first year.

[DUHockey90]

haha brenno, it's never our year

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I have nothing to say bad against the guy, he is a heck of a hockey player and first class. With that said SIU-E was 0-7-1 against teams over .500. The guy played against a lot of D-II teams that were easy mercies. He never comes off the floor. If Shah off MSU played the amount of time he did he would outscore him.


He may have scored 5 goals against Lindenwood, but there were plenty of other teams that contained him this season. If he gets a hat trick and his teams loses 4-3 then the goals don't mean much. Also, considering that they didn't win a game against either Missouri State or Truman State or Grand Valley this year, he might not have such an easy time scoring and winning at nationals.

[JLambertUMSL]

He also almost singlehandedly carried his team back from a three-goal deficit in the third period against Mizzou before they screwed up and let David Rey get a shorthanded breakaway with the game tied.

http://www.greatplainshockey.com/game.php?game_id=78766

Walker is something else. He would be sniping like crazy for any team in the country. He can score from anywhere. Take any of the best finishers in the GPCIHL....Sean Sullivan, Kyle Gouge, Brandon Barnette, David Rey....he's right up there with them.

But if people go to Nationals expecting to see a one-man team, they're sadly mistaken. #17 Bill Shacklady (who is huge) has some nasty moves too...and he's only fifth on the team in scoring. They're good in net, and they play smarter than you'd expect from a first-year team with no coach.

[stopthetrain]

The truth about Walker.
1) He wears pantyhose to hold up his pads.
2) He had plastic surgery to give his arms rubber like reflexes.
3) He bought his helmet at goodwill.
4) He drinks a shot of Johnny Walker Black before the game and then
spits the backeash into his glove.
5) His favorite hobby is tying a stuffed tritan to a goal and pounding
it with pucks. After he gets nothing by the toy he pulls out a gun
and finishes the job.
6) His yard is covered with Linden trees which he trims down to stumps.
7) He walks tall when he wears a rangers outfit.
8) His teamates await his arrival at the rink and lay down the red
carpet.
9) Jennifer Aniston leftJohn Mayar for him.
10. He was drafted by the Quebec Nordiques

[JLambertUMSL]

He was shut out once this season...that was when he went with a black helmet instead of the trademark Jofa white (off-white?). Hmmm.

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DIVISION II

Pool A
Neumann College
University of Tampa
Grand Valley State University
University of Southern California

Pool B
University of California, San Diego
Truman State University
University of Texas - Dallas
Kennessaw State University

Pool C
West Chester University
Central Michigan University
Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
University of Northern Colorado

Pool D
Missouri State University
Florida Atlantic University
Rowan University
Metropolitan State College of Denver

[GongMaster]

Nationals are going to be really competitive this year in DII. There isnt a single pool that is weak.

[JLambertUMSL]

Random DII notes...killing time....

Grand Valley, Missouri State, and usually Neumann have so many players on their teams (with nice matching uniforms) that they look like an ice hockey team when they're taking the floor for warmups.

Watch out for the guy in the blue pants on Missouri State. This season he turned in the best Regionals performance in Great Plains DII history by far (hat trick in the semi, 3-4-7 in the final). Don't count on Missouri State going down easily.

Truman State has been so close so many times in the last four years, but has yet to win any hardware. Now it's the last year for guys like Pecher and Dougherty (I love watching those two play). Hopefully they've got a little something extra this year. (UMSL is scrimmaging Truman on Tuesday 3/31 as a kind of dress rehearsal for Nationals -- hopefully Bales doesn't put any of our players through the glass).

SIUE is a lot closer to the top than some may expect. http://www.ncrha.org/game.php?game_id=80302 -- this was a very interesting game. IIRC, that tiebreaking game-winner with less than 2:00 left was scored on a screen shot from a mile away. It was the two best players in GP DII going head-to-head (Shah vs. Walker), but as it turned out, it was a grizzled old vet (MSU captain Tom Frederick) who scored the game-winner. It's funny how things seem to work out that way sometimes.

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Random DII notes...killing time....

Grand Valley, Missouri State, and usually Neumann have so many players on their teams (with nice matching uniforms) that they look like an ice hockey team when they're taking the floor for warmups.

Watch out for the guy in the blue pants on Missouri State. This season he turned in the best Regionals performance in Great Plains DII history by far (hat trick in the semi, 3-4-7 in the final). Don't count on Missouri State going down easily.

Truman State has been so close so many times in the last four years, but has yet to win any hardware. Now it's the last year for guys like Pecher and Dougherty (I love watching those two play). Hopefully they've got a little something extra this year. (UMSL is scrimmaging Truman on Tuesday 3/31 as a kind of dress rehearsal for Nationals -- hopefully Bales doesn't put any of our players through the glass).

SIUE is a lot closer to the top than some may expect. http://www.ncrha.org/game.php?game_id=80302 -- this was a very interesting game. IIRC, that tiebreaking game-winner with less than 2:00 left was scored on a screen shot from a mile away. It was the two best players in GP DII going head-to-head (Shah vs. Walker), but as it turned out, it was a grizzled old vet (MSU captain Tom Frederick) who scored the game-winner. It's funny how things seem to work out that way sometimes.
we are a completely different team with shah. for example, our power play is actually good. but getting goals from unexpected people is what helps win games. you can't always rely on someone to score.

hopefully we can make up for last years embarrassing play at nationals. i still remember the overtime loss to west chester perfectly.

[FAUplayer]

Schedule is up! A lot of good looking games; it is a shame the schedule is block, we are going to miss watching a lot of the games since we will be playing our own.

[catch]

Thats not a grizzled out vet! Thats Mr. T. to you. You post Mr. T's name you show some respect. Incidentally, w/ all due respect to Salvatore Shah he did not go 3-4-7 in the final. It was 4-1-5 w/ a couple of miscounts. Sanchez Vasquez was actually 3-1-4. Dr. Greenthumb had more assists and no goals, but was given one by the scorer, however, after crashing through the boards into your camera he deserved a goal.


Random DII notes...killing time....

Grand Valley, Missouri State, and usually Neumann have so many players on their teams (with nice matching uniforms) that they look like an ice hockey team when they're taking the floor for warmups.

Watch out for the guy in the blue pants on Missouri State. This season he turned in the best Regionals performance in Great Plains DII history by far (hat trick in the semi, 3-4-7 in the final). Don't count on Missouri State going down easily.

Truman State has been so close so many times in the last four years, but has yet to win any hardware. Now it's the last year for guys like Pecher and Dougherty (I love watching those two play). Hopefully they've got a little something extra this year. (UMSL is scrimmaging Truman on Tuesday 3/31 as a kind of dress rehearsal for Nationals -- hopefully Bales doesn't put any of our players through the glass).

SIUE is a lot closer to the top than some may expect. http://www.ncrha.org/game.php?game_id=80302 -- this was a very interesting game. IIRC, that tiebreaking game-winner with less than 2:00 left was scored on a screen shot from a mile away. It was the two best players in GP DII going head-to-head (Shah vs. Walker), but as it turned out, it was a grizzled old vet (MSU captain Tom Frederick) who scored the game-winner. It's funny how things seem to work out that way sometimes.

[JLambertUMSL]

Jason Walker highlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qynOtZsyfu4
UMSL B ties the game vs. Lindenwood Gold (embarrassing scream, with cursing muted...):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m10AZKIiAC0

(Regarding the Shah stats...I didn't realize the stats were still getting screwed up like that! They've been pretty accurate this year.)

[catch]

nevertheless Shah's performance was the best in the great plains for the year. With that said I would love to see Walker without him having to play 90% of the game. He was worn down by the third period of our last game. However, if I was picking an all d-2 great plains team I'd start with Pecher from Truman. he is the mvp. there is a debate internally amongst the coaches at MSU as to who is the best player on our team. Not that it matters in the end, but we have several guys who are a lot better than people realize.