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SlammHockey
01-20-2009, 08:38 PM
SlammHockey's (http://www.slammhockey.com) Division 1 NCRHA rankings are now posted at our Collegiate page (http://www.slammhockey-ncrha.blogspot.com).

We apologize for the inability to update the other pages as regular as we would like. It is our resolution to start paing more attention to the AIHL, PIHA and MLRH in the upcoming weeks. Should you have anything that you would like posted in addition to posting it on Inline Hockey Central, please feel free to email us at [email protected]

JLambertUMSL
01-20-2009, 09:22 PM
Is this the power rankings or the poll?

SlammHockey
01-20-2009, 09:45 PM
Our IP Poll comes out tomorrow at 12:00pm CST.

Dangl*
01-21-2009, 01:18 AM
Still no love for the West... Ha Ha... O'well guess it's just like College football...

William Bourque
01-21-2009, 01:26 AM
Still no love for the West... Ha Ha... O'well guess it's just like College football...

Agreed...How can nobody from the West be in the top 10?

JLambertUMSL
01-21-2009, 02:30 AM
Because they've beaten up on each other and computers that rank teams don't like that. IMO there's at least three top-ten teams in the WCRHL.

William Bourque
01-21-2009, 07:45 AM
Because they've beaten up on each other and computers that rank teams don't like that. IMO there's at least three top-ten teams in the WCRHL.

Yea, I thought that the rankings were based on a panel though? Didn't I read somewhere that 50 people from across the country were going to have some type of meeting or something? I could just be mixing that up with lacrosse though...

osu_buckeyes
01-21-2009, 09:27 AM
There are two separate rankings I think. The one that was posted yesterday was a computer ranking. Today the poll is supposed to be posted.

Clever Name
01-21-2009, 02:39 PM
so where is this poll? It's past that time

edit - nvm there up now

William Bourque
01-21-2009, 03:30 PM
It seems like all 50 of your people had the same top 3 teams.

Please take the following as constructive comments...

How can you allow someone to vote in your poll who is going to vote for winless teams in the top 25? To me it would seem these people are try to undermine what you are going trying to do.

Also, why do some teams have higher values than others but are ranked lower?


I see value in these rankings because they cause people to talk and also add excitement to games. So please don't take these comments as negative.

AJ Barnett
01-21-2009, 05:14 PM
The power rankings are a bit unfair to tell you the truth. Colorado State University took #9, but really you have to consider who they play. They are the only DI team here in Colorado. When your competition consists of DII and DIII schools, really it's not hard to win games. CSU is a good team, but wont be tested until the National Tournament.

WCRHL
01-21-2009, 07:01 PM
Colorado State did perform well in November against 4 WCRHL teams. They went 2-1-1 in that event, beating Long Beach State 7-6 and tying UNLV, but did lose to UC Irvine 12-2. I would say that those games could be what keeps them up in the rankings.

They will be playing the other 4 WCRHL DI teams on January 31st in Irvine, CA. They'll play UCSB, Cal Poly SLO, San Diego State and Arizona State.

Also participating will be Colorado State's B team and Northern Colorado.

JLambertUMSL
01-22-2009, 01:18 PM
Hey guys, let's argue!

Here's my top 15. Fire away.

1. Lindenwood
2. UMSL
3. Michigan State
4. Eastern Michigan
5. Arizona State
6. Rutgers
7. UC Irvine
8. Long Beach State
9. Buffalo
10. Ohio State
11. Rhode Island
12. UC Santa Barbara
13. Mizzou
14. UNLV
15. Central Florida

UmmaDoMe23
01-22-2009, 01:24 PM
Hey guys, let's argue!

Here's my top 15. Fire away.

1. Lindenwood
2. UMSL
3. Michigan State
4. Eastern Michigan
5. Arizona State
6. Rutgers
7. UC Irvine
8. Long Beach State
9. Buffalo
10. Ohio State
11. Rhode Island
12. UC Santa Barbara
13. Mizzou
14. UNLV
15. Central Florida

Looks solid to me, although I'm sure we will have a much clearer picture of who the top teams are after the Mt. Pleasant tourney next weekend.

JLambertUMSL
01-22-2009, 02:38 PM
Looks solid to me, although I'm sure we will have a much clearer picture of who the top teams are after the Mt. Pleasant tourney next weekend.

Yep....starting this weekend, the rankings will start to really take shape. And next weekend will be just awesome. There's never been a regular-season event like it.

(I'm hoping to make it next weekend...not sure how I'll get there but I'm going to try.)

William Bourque
01-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Were really excited about next weekend. It should be one of the most exciting, if not the most exciting events in the country this season minus the nationals tournament. It already feels like it will have that kind of feel too it.

JLambertUMSL
01-22-2009, 05:57 PM
Were really excited about next weekend. It should be one of the most exciting, if not the most exciting events in the country this season minus the nationals tournament. It already feels like it will have that kind of feel too it.

I'm amazed and impressed that you guys were able to get this event together. It really is a sort of milestone for CRH. Somehow I'm going to try to get there, even if it means renting a car and driving.

Rebel48
01-27-2009, 05:56 PM
CSU was able to compete b/c WCRHL teams were told that the game vs. CSU would not count towards their record (which it didn't). so needless to say, some teams slacked off a little bit.
as for the WCRHL, we all seem to beat each other. the competition is so tight that the bottom teams are beating top teams regularly. while the top teams beat each other as well. basically, there is no standout team which is why the rankings (based on statistics) will never show a West Coast team in the top 10. cant' wait for this weekend when everyone is action on both coasts to show who really ranks where!

Clever Name
01-27-2009, 06:14 PM
CSU was able to compete b/c WCRHL teams were told that the game vs. CSU would not count towards their record (which it didn't). so needless to say, some teams slacked off a little bit.
as for the WCRHL, we all seem to beat each other. the competition is so tight that the bottom teams are beating top teams regularly. while the top teams beat each other as well. basically, there is no standout team which is why the rankings (based on statistics) will never show a West Coast team in the top 10. cant' wait for this weekend when everyone is action on both coasts to show who really ranks where!

i agree. It seems like anyone can beat anyone on any given day (except Northridge).

That is evident by the last tournament. Saddleback has beaten just about everyone in D1. Irvine, LongBeach etc. They got blown out by UNLV, who lost to both SDSU and Cal Poly. The West is definitely deep in talent. Whoevers goalie is on will win the game.

GoRangrHky
01-28-2009, 04:56 PM
Rankings online aren't opening for me. Can anyone else get them?

Clever Name
01-28-2009, 05:29 PM
Rankings online aren't opening for me. Can anyone else get them?

same. I click them and it goes to page not found

terrorcoach
01-28-2009, 06:20 PM
The link on the page is misformatted. Remove the extra http// and change the ccc to pub and you can get to the rankings. I would just post the link but the site won't let me because I am too new.

SlammHockey
01-28-2009, 06:24 PM
Site is updated, sorry for the confusion.

Clever Name
01-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Now when I click it it asks me to log in to my google docs account

GoRangrHky
01-29-2009, 10:17 AM
Same here. Still can't get to it.

osu_buckeyes
01-29-2009, 11:35 AM
Yea, looks like he didn't release the permissions on it yet.

Clever Name
01-29-2009, 11:35 AM
come on slamm

SlammHockey
01-29-2009, 02:03 PM
All of the permissions should be released, I apologize, I wasn't aware that I was the only one that could view them. If anyone has trouble please email me at [email protected] and I will send the file as an attachment.

SlammHockey

JLambertUMSL
01-29-2009, 03:19 PM
Hey guys, let's argue!

Here's my top 15. Fire away.

1. Lindenwood
2. UMSL
3. Michigan State
4. Eastern Michigan
5. Arizona State
6. Rutgers
7. UC Irvine
8. Long Beach State
9. Buffalo
10. Ohio State
11. Rhode Island
12. UC Santa Barbara
13. Mizzou
14. UNLV
15. Central Florida


And here's my rankings this week. Fire away!!! Please?

1. Lindenwood
2. Michigan State
3. UMSL
4. Rutgers
5. Arizona State
6. Ohio State
7. UC Irvine
8. Buffalo
9. Long Beach State
10. Central Florida
11. UC Santa Barbara
12. Mizzou
13. Rhode Island
14. Colorado State
15. Towson

Clever Name
01-29-2009, 03:26 PM
still can't get them to work. Anyone having luck? Just post them here

AJ Barnett
01-29-2009, 03:53 PM
I'll post my top 15.

#1 - Lindenwood
#2 - Rutgers
#3 - UMSL
#4 - Michigan St.
#5 - Central Florida
#6 - Buffalo
#7 - Ohio St.
#8 - UC Santa Barbara
#9 - UC Irvine
#10 - Rhode Island
#11 - Colorado St.
#12 - Mizzou
#13 - Towson
#14 - Michigan
#15 - Florida Int.

JLambertUMSL
01-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Here's the Slamm rankings...

1. Lindenwood
2. UMSL
3. Michigan State
4. Rutgers
5. Central Florida
6. Ohio State
7. Buffalo
8. UC Santa Barbara
9. UC Irvine
10. Florida
11. Mizzou
12. Rhode Island
13. UNLV
14. Colorado State
15. Arizona State
16. Long Beach State
17. Michigan
18. Towson
19. Florida International
20. Eastern Michigan
21. Penn State
22. Stony Brook
23. Cal Poly SLO
24. Missouri S&T
25. NC State
26. East Carolina
27. West Point
28. Purdue
29. San Diego State
30. UConn
31. Western Michigan
32. Middle Tennessee State
33. Pittsburgh
34. Hofstra
35. Cal State Northridge

JLambertUMSL
02-01-2009, 06:51 PM
My rankings, updated with this weekend's results and with SCHL teams now included. If you care.

As always...fire away. I can take it.

1. Lindenwood
2. UMSL
3. Michigan State
4. Rutgers
Buffalo
6. UC Irvine
7. Long Beach State
8. Rhode Island
9. Mizzou
10. Towson
11. UC Santa Barbara
12. Ohio State
13. San Diego State
14. UNLV
15. Colorado State
16. Penn State
17. Louisiana-Lafayette
18. Michigan
19. Arizona State
20. Central Florida
21. Connecticut
22. Stony Brook
23. Cal Poly SLO
24. Eastern Michigan
25. Purdue
26. Florida International
27. Florida
28. North Texas
29. Missouri S&T
30. Hofstra
31. West Point
32. East Carolina
33. Western Michigan
34. LSU
35. North Carolina State
36. Middle Tennessee State
37. Texas Tech
38. Pittsburgh
39. Sam Houston State
40. Texas
41. Cal State Northridge
42. Texas A&M
43. Texas-Arlington
44. New Orleans

Clever Name
02-01-2009, 07:28 PM
rankings look pretty good to me. What exactly is the deal with the SCHL?

JLambertUMSL
02-01-2009, 09:30 PM
rankings look pretty good to me. What exactly is the deal with the SCHL?

They use a different stat system (see schl.org), so they get overlooked.

UL-Lafayette played at a SECRHL event this weekend and did pretty well, and a couple other SCHL teams have played at different regions' events this year, so I decided to incorporate them into my rankings. Hopefully Slamm can do the same.

RaginCajunAlum
02-02-2009, 12:46 PM
They use a different stat system (see schl.org), so they get overlooked.

UL-Lafayette played at a SECRHL event this weekend and did pretty well, and a couple other SCHL teams have played at different regions' events this year, so I decided to incorporate them into my rankings. Hopefully Slamm can do the same.

Yea the SCHL has always been different and thus makes it a pain in the *ss when trying to objectively compare teams and stats. Its been that way since they decided to have their own separate, different format website. Not saying its a bad site, far from it, but it just doesnt integrate with the rest of the NCRHA.

Thanks for the props JL. The Cajuns played well this weekend. First game was with backup goalie to save the starter for the UF games, so that explains some of the high score. All in all it was a good weekend, but we need to get better at closing teams out once we are well ahead.

UL-Lafayette
02-02-2009, 01:29 PM
ULL hockey has been trying everything possible to better our program and become more apart of the NCRHA community. This past weekend was an excellent step in the right direction as we made a very long trip to Snellville,GA to take on some different teams and face new challenges. We finished with a 4-0 record and really dominated all four games to now put us at 15-1 on the season. We know we are far and away from being one of the top D1 teams in the country, but believe we should be incorporated to people's rankings (SLAMM) and get at-least a little respect for what we are doing down south.

Thanks so much JL for all the support and for actually following what's going on in the SCHL. Appreciate it!

InlineMBA
02-02-2009, 01:33 PM
Watch Out ! ! ! - Team LaTex is back.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

UL-Lafayette
02-02-2009, 01:38 PM
Watch Out ! ! ! - Team LaTex is back.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

haha you are correct! .. ULL's Hockey team has Stephen and Andrew Hebert from Team LaTex .. that are still playing fowards together!

InlineMBA
02-02-2009, 01:45 PM
NCRHA Teams, consider yourselves warned. These guys are trying like heck to "fly under the radar", but don't be fooled - these are some very dangerous players. They're faster then hell too.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

pdemon7261
02-02-2009, 02:10 PM
Steve-

The Hebert boys are very good players- if the rest of the team can support them they will be a force to reckon with at nationals- but their lack of competition may turn out to hurt them come nationals time.

Great tournament this weekend- my two cents is that I think the ECRHA and GPCIHL have the strongest teams (even though ECRHA has more teams). Obviously- Lindenwood and UMSL are two powerhouses, Mizzou looks to hold their own in a tough region.

I think the East proved that they can hang with anyone this weekend, Buffalo, Rutgers, and Towson hopefully will get the recognition they deserve as top quality programs in the NCRHA. Would have been nice to see URI in Mt. Pleasant too, just to see how they stack up- but trust me, they are no slouches either and will be right there with all the top flight teams. You can't overlook Stony Brook, Penn State, and even UConn. Stony Brook and Penn State have had some impressive victories this season. UConn started off miserably and looked like a doormat for the ECRHA, but recently has gone 5-2-1 since the return of key players.

All in all, the end of the season is shaping up to be pretty good...

Clever Name
02-02-2009, 05:02 PM
the only thing bad i can say about your rankings Jlambert is this. I have never seen Texas A&M, Texas-Arlington or New Orleans play before but being on the West all i can say is that Cal State Northridge should not be ahead of anyone.

AJ Barnett
02-03-2009, 07:15 PM
My New Top 15

#1 - Lindenwood
#2 - Rutgers
#3 - Michigan St.
#4 - UMSL
#5 - Buffalo
#6 - Central Florida
#7 - UC Irvine
#8 - Rhode Island
#9 - Long Beach State
#10 - Ohio St.
#11 - UC Santa Barbara
#12 - Colorado St.
#13 - Mizzou
#14 - Michigan
#15 - Towson

William Bourque
02-03-2009, 08:09 PM
My New Top 15

#1 - Lindenwood
#2 - Rutgers
#3 - Michigan St.
#4 - UMSL
#5 - Buffalo
#6 - Central Florida
#7 - UC Irvine
#8 - Rhode Island
#9 - Long Beach State
#10 - Ohio St.
#11 - UC Santa Barbara
#12 - Colorado St.
#13 - Mizzou
#14 - Michigan
#15 - Towson

Buffalo beat Central Florida 8-2
Michigan beat Central Florida 3-1
and Penn State beat Central Florida 5-3

AJ Barnett
02-03-2009, 10:31 PM
Buffalo beat Central Florida 8-2
Michigan beat Central Florida 3-1
and Penn State beat Central Florida 5-3

I am open to controversy. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have posted my rankings. I am standing by what I posted however. Consider my rankings the BCS of the NCRHA, no one agrees with ranking decisions. LSU didn't deserve to get into the National Championship (football) last year, but finished the regular season ranked #2 when in a lot of peoples mind's, they should have been #4.

William Bourque
02-03-2009, 11:04 PM
I am open to controversy. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have posted my rankings. I am standing by what I posted however.

Fair Enough.

JLambertUMSL
02-04-2009, 10:44 AM
My New Top 15

#1 - Lindenwood
#2 - Rutgers
#3 - Michigan St.
#4 - UMSL
#5 - Buffalo
#6 - Central Florida
#7 - UC Irvine
#8 - Rhode Island
#9 - Long Beach State
#10 - Ohio St.
#11 - UC Santa Barbara
#12 - Colorado St.
#13 - Mizzou
#14 - Michigan
#15 - Towson


I'm not trying to trash anyone...just want to discuss a little...

Towson tied Michigan, who beat UCF (all in the same weekend at the same rink), but UCF is ranked sixth and Michigan and Towson are 14 and 15? I disagree.

UCF went 1-3 last weekend. Their only win was over 2-18-0 Pittsburgh. Their best wins this season are a pair of wins over Florida, which lost twice to UL-Lafayette and tied Kennesaw (DII) last weekend.

Rhode Island is 15-3-1 in a tough league and playing well lately. UC Irvine is 12-3-1 in a tough league, and is also playing well, with solid wins over your 11th-ranked team, UCSB (twice), and UNLV last weekend. Their resume is much more impressive than UCF.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm bashing UCF. All I'm saying is that sixth is much too high.

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 01:24 PM
My Second Semester WCRHL Rankings

1. UC Irvine
2. Long Beach State
3. UC Santa Barbara
4. San Diego State *
5. UNLV *
6. Cal Poly SLO
7. Arizona State
8. Cal State Northridge

SDSU and UNLV are debateable and can be flip flopped. However SDSU has had a better second half and has the Head to Head Advantage. (2nd Semester)

Dangl*
02-04-2009, 02:41 PM
My Second Semester WCRHL Rankings

1. UC Irvine
2. Long Beach State
3. UC Santa Barbara
4. San Diego State *
5. UNLV *
6. Cal Poly SLO
7. Arizona State
8. Cal State Northridge

SDSU and UNLV are debateable and can be flip flopped. However SDSU has had a better second half and has the Head to Head Advantage. (2nd Semester)

I think you are pretty dead on with theses rankings of the WCRHL. I would say that Irvine still sits at the top followed by a very talented Long Beach team. After that, things are not so clear. SDSU looks like the team on the rise after adding there ice players to there roster and NARCH Pro player Tommy Neer. In all honesty, any of the top 7 teams can beat each other on any given day in this league.

rollerhockey8
02-04-2009, 02:57 PM
I think that UCI and LB are closer than most people may think. They play eachother one more time next weekend. This will most likely determine the overall season winner in the west. do i smell game of the week slamm?

both teams are clearly peaking at the right time with 5 and 6 game winning streaks against quality teams like unlv and ucsb.

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 03:15 PM
All i know is that next week will have some great hockey on the West Coast. With teams like ASU and SDSU fighting for their playoff lives and playing each other twice, should be some great games. Slo players will probably be refreshing their screens since they are inactive and fate lies in the hands of other teams. I think with Colorado State being an exhibition game, that really hurt SDSU who beat them and could use those 2 points.

I agree with the above statement about UCI and LB being pretty close. I like Long Beaches Speed but their downfall is their goaltending is not the best. I like UCI's snipers vs them.

rollerhockey8
02-04-2009, 03:23 PM
it should be very interesting what happens between SDSU ASU and SLO. if ASU gets some of its players back they should be able to pull it out. I like the sdsu sneeking in,

the lb goalie is actually a defensemen who has stepped in when there was no goalie to be found at tryouts. kinda like UCI last year. he has shown great improvement and should make things interesting....UCI won 9-7 and 7-6 earlier this year

WCRHL
02-04-2009, 04:49 PM
I think with Colorado State being an exhibition game, that really hurt SDSU who beat them and could use those 2 points.

Just so we're on the same page here, each WCRHL Division I team played Colorado State either in November in Arizona or last weekend in Irvine. Games counted as exhibition for all of them, so there is no advantage gained nor lost by SDSU's results against Colorado State.

For the record, the games played by all 3 Colorado teams were very competitive (except maybe UNC vs UCSD). These games are exactly what the Colorado teams needed going into the homescretch towards Nationals, exposure to different styles of play and officiating from a different region.

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 05:10 PM
Games counted as exhibition for all of them, so there is no advantage gained nor lost by SDSU's results against Colorado State.


Not true. Might not do much for the top half of the playoffs but it would for the bottom. If the Colorado state games counted for points (for all schools), Colorado State beat SLO and ASU but lost to SDSU. That would give SDSU and ASU both 13 points in the standings. Instead they (SDSU) has 11 and remain 2 points behind ASU for the last spot in the playoffs. As it stands now for the final 2 spots, SLO has 16 points, ASU 13 and SDSU 11.

Drexel63
02-04-2009, 05:19 PM
I believe his point was it is fair either way, because those games were intended to be exhibition and not count, from the beginning...

Also, your argument can be applied to any divisional opponent two teams played and one lost to and one beat... Has nothing to do with inter-regional play, only end of the season regrets over points slipping away earlier in the year...

With the interregional play, there were no ponits that slipped away, because there were none to be had by anyone in the first place...

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 05:34 PM
I believe his point was it is fair either way, because those games were intended to be exhibition and not count, from the beginning...

Also, your argument can be applied to any divisional opponent two teams played and one lost to and one beat... Has nothing to do with inter-regional play, only end of the season regrets over points slipping away earlier in the year...

With the interregional play, there were no ponits that slipped away, because there were none to be had by anyone in the first place...

I see what your saying. First off, let me just say that i have no affiliation to San Diego State what-so-ever and I'm not trying to defend their win. Just stating it's impact. I still believe, i even started a thread, that every game should count no matter who you play. For all schools. I think it is needed for the NCRHA to continue to grow. It did for the east coast (which is good) but not out West.

Also, a pretty dumb question i know, but is it possible for team to get a National bid without receiving a Regional bid? For instance, one of these teams out West will not make it. With Colorado State being the only D1 school in the Rocky Mountain League i am sure their slots go elsewhere. Now i have never seen any other division play, but i am sure their are teams on the West (may be a homer) that are better than teams in other regions, but records are bad due to anyone can beat anyone and the West having great parody.

WCRHL
02-04-2009, 06:05 PM
Also, a pretty dumb question i know, but is it possible for team to get a National bid without receiving a Regional bid? For instance, one of these teams out West will not make it. With Colorado State being the only D1 school in the Rocky Mountain League i am sure their slots go elsewhere. Now i have never seen any other division play, but i am sure their are teams on the West (may be a homer) that are better than teams in other regions, but records are bad due to anyone can beat anyone and the West having great parody.

Not a dumb question at all. Each NCRHA Member Organization receives an Automatic Bid to Nationals in Division I, II and B. JC is different, all teams are determined by voting.

In the case of a region that has only 1 team in a Division, they will receive the automatic bid. RMCRHA may not have a Regional Championship Tournament for DI, or they may combine all of their teams in an RMCRHA Regional Championship Tournament (regardless of divisions). I am not sure what they are doing this season. When the year started out, I believe RMCRHA thought they would have more than 1 DI team...

Maybe this is something that needs to be looked at by the NCRHA BOD, where in order to receive an automatic bid, you must have at least 3 (or insert other number here) teams to get that auto bid.

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 08:45 PM
not sure if i understood your answer correctly but what i meant was, since the WCRHL is so deep with talent and any team can beat any team (save CSUN), and pretend after next week the standings remain the same. Cal Poly gets the #5 seed and ASU locks up #6. SDSU and CSUN are eliminated. Is it possible that a SDSU because strength of conference and schedule can get a national bid to Feasterville even though they did not get a regional bid? Or is it by record. I doubt they take that many teams from the West but i would rather see a competitive tourney then a team with a better record then SDSU but maybe not as talented get in.

*or any region for that matter, im just using the West since thats what i know
im sure this can apply to other regions

SDSU
02-04-2009, 08:51 PM
not sure if i understood your answer correctly but what i meant was, since the WCRHL is so deep with talent and any team can beat any team (save CSUN), and pretend after next week the standings remain the same. Cal Poly gets the #5 seed and ASU locks up #6. SDSU and CSUN are eliminated. Is it possible that a SDSU because strength of conference and schedule can get a national bid to Feasterville even though they did not get a regional bid? Or is it by record. I doubt they take that many teams from the West but i would rather see a competitive tourney then a team with a better record then SDSU but maybe not as talented get in.

*or any region for that matter, im just using the West since thats what i know
im sure this can apply to other regions


Just curious Clever Name, what team are you affiliated with?

William Bourque
02-04-2009, 08:57 PM
There are going to be some teams at nationals this year in Division I with losing records. I think it is possible to think that SDSU could make nationals without making regionals. It all depends on how things turn out with the selection committee.

JLambertUMSL
02-04-2009, 09:12 PM
The new IP rankings are out.

Voters probably should have noticed that Long Beach State (#13) beat UC Santa Barbara (#10) last weekend...twice...by four and five goals. San Diego State (#24) tied UNLV (#14) and beat Colorado State (#15).

Clever Name
02-04-2009, 09:32 PM
SDSU check your PMs

bauernike98
02-04-2009, 09:51 PM
IP poll looks good other than Ohio State im not sure i would have them in top 10 but good other than that. Power rankings however = complete joke

PMoyer3
02-06-2009, 06:45 PM
There are going to be some teams at nationals this year in Division I with losing records. I think it is possible to think that SDSU could make nationals without making regionals. It all depends on how things turn out with the selection committee.

I would disagree. No team has ever received a bid to nationals without at least qualifying for regionals.

Furthermore, all 6 teams who play in the regional tournament would have to get bids before a 7th ranked team from a region was selected for nationals. I find that highly unlikely and I would even go as far as saying it is impossible for SDSU to get a national bid without qualifying for regionals.

It still pains me to think about SLO not getting a bid my last year at college after we placed 3rd at regionals and being seeded first from round robin and 2nd overall in the regular season then lost in overtime to a "Michigan" play.

So in conclusion, there isn't a chance in hell.

William Bourque
02-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Fair enough...However, it was clear last year how strong the west was...

This year there is only one team in DI in the RMCRHA.

Eastern Michigan is 3-10-0.

Central Florida is dominating teams down in the southeast.
Florida is second.

ULL just beat Florida twice.

It's going to be hard to find 24 national worthy teams in DI this season.

SDSU had proven they belong and can play with the top teams and i would take them over teams like Eastern Michigan.

How Bids Should Go In DI:
ECRHA = 5
GP = 4
Midwest = 3
Colorado State
South East = 2
South WEst = 3
West = 6

I know that scenario leaves out the 7th best team in the west...but it could mean that they have a shot, depending how the selection are made.

ISFN
02-06-2009, 11:49 PM
Your breakdown looks right except..


I don't see the Southwest getting 3, North Tex and ULL and thats it.
Midwest will get 4 or West will get 7.
Also Depending on how Missouri S&T goes this weekend against West Point and N.Tex I don't really see them getting in either.

William Bourque
02-07-2009, 02:43 AM
Your breakdown looks right except..


I don't see the Southwest getting 3, North Tex and ULL and thats it.
Midwest will get 4 or West will get 7.
Also Depending on how Missouri S&T goes this weekend against West Point and N.Tex I don't really see them getting in either.


I wasn't trying to be really specific, i was just saying that there is a shot, no matter how small.

Rebel48
02-07-2009, 04:38 PM
Hopefully this will clear some things up. This is what was emailed to me about how the D1 teams will be selected for Nationals. And if I am interpreting this correct, then yea a team that did not qualify could make Nationals if they have a higher number of points than anyone else. I'd say unlikely, but not impossible.

For Divisions I, II and B:
1st Bid per division - AUTOMATIC BID - Winner of Regionals
Next bid - (not automatic, this will be voted on by the Selection Committee) - Best Regular Season Record
All other bids - based on points system, 2 points for Regular Season win, 1 point for Regular Season tie, 3 points for Post Season win, 1.5 points for Post Season tie - Only games played in your division count (games against JC opponents or teams from other regions do not count)



Tiebreakers for Regionals and Nationals:

1. Total Wins (2 teams may be tied in points but one has more wins than the other)
2. Head to Head Record
3. Goal Differential
4. Goals Against (least)
5. Goals For (most)
6. Penalty Minutes (least)
7. Coin Toss

Did anyone see this same thing?

osu_buckeyes
02-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Something about that seems a little off. I've never heard of using a point system, or at least a strict point system for selecting teams. In the past regular season records and regionals records were used as a guideline, but in the end all the bids (except for the auto-bid of course) were voted on I think.

Also, I think in the Mt. Pleasant thread from last week someone mentioned that the interregional games would not count for division standings but WOULD count for nationals consideration.

InlineMBA
02-07-2009, 06:02 PM
I think in the Mt. Pleasant thread from last week someone mentioned that the interregional games would not count for division standings but WOULD count for nationals consideration.

That was my understanding also.

Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8

MBurke
02-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Hopefully this will clear some things up. This is what was emailed to me about how the D1 teams will be selected for Nationals. And if I am interpreting this correct, then yea a team that did not qualify could make Nationals if they have a higher number of points than anyone else. I'd say unlikely, but not impossible.

For Divisions I, II and B:
1st Bid per division - AUTOMATIC BID - Winner of Regionals
Next bid - (not automatic, this will be voted on by the Selection Committee) - Best Regular Season Record
All other bids - based on points system, 2 points for Regular Season win, 1 point for Regular Season tie, 3 points for Post Season win, 1.5 points for Post Season tie - Only games played in your division count (games against JC opponents or teams from other regions do not count)

Tiebreakers for Regionals and Nationals:

1. Total Wins (2 teams may be tied in points but one has more wins than the other)
2. Head to Head Record
3. Goal Differential
4. Goals Against (least)
5. Goals For (most)
6. Penalty Minutes (least)
7. Coin Toss

Did anyone see this same thing?

That is how your teams are placed 'on the board' for nationals selections by your region. Every region is allowed to do this differently, but every region comes with a list of teams in order to the selection meeting.

The process works like this for nationals bids:

Auto-bids are handed out the top team from each region (determined by the region).
Each region then places its top remaining team up on the board for the selection committee to evaluate.
The selection committee picks ONE team from the seven teams that are up there.
The process repeats itself until all bids are handed out.

WCRHL
02-08-2009, 05:11 PM
Like Burke mentioned, that is the WCRHL method for selecting teams for Nationals. Or more specifically, the order that WCRHL teams are nominated.

PMoyer3
02-09-2009, 04:05 PM
oh wow, i didn't realize that the amount of teams participating in D1 had actually fallen. That would be a nice change to see so many west coasters go to nationals.

Clever Name
02-10-2009, 03:24 PM
New rankings out. CSU back to number 9? Way to high imo. There about .500 in their west coast visits. I'm not counting CSUN.

hockey56
02-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Rutgers didnt lose to Hofstra they beat them 6-1