View Full Version : Top Player in D1 ecrha
benchwarmer37
11-19-2008, 05:55 PM
Robbie Fulton-Rutgers
Andrew Brodsky-Rutgers
Tyler Walser-Buffalo
Alex Durinka-Buffalo
Dustin Roux-Penn State
Dane Houser-Towson
Whos the best player though?
whoover
11-19-2008, 06:05 PM
Brenden Nelson from RI
InlineMBA
11-19-2008, 06:13 PM
Agreed - Brendan Nelson @ URI is my #1 draft pick, with Alex Durinka @ SUNY Buffalo not far behind. Props to Andrew Brodsky @ RU who is playing really well.
Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8
hsiow21
11-19-2008, 06:20 PM
Dustin Roux from Penn State would be my number one pick, he has made PSU a contender just look at the Rutgers/PSU game this past weekend.
Brenden Nelson is a great player too, who also can take over a game.
Topshelf39
11-19-2008, 06:24 PM
def brendon nelson, and dustin roux r the top 2 players in the east. I would also throw out there nelson team mate in David Bord being one of the top goalies in the league
keepPracticeing
11-19-2008, 07:42 PM
Brandon Gasiewicz from buffalo is without a doubt best player in the east
William Bourque
11-19-2008, 08:06 PM
Tyler Walser & Ryan Cowdell are both up there.
Brendan Nelson is also another guy you can't overlook.
rinkrat19
11-19-2008, 08:21 PM
With all that being said, who is the top player on each of the D1 teams?
DUHockey9
11-19-2008, 10:26 PM
Dustin Roux is disgustingly good.
cusanorojo
11-19-2008, 10:49 PM
I think tyler walser has looked the best this season so far and buffalo is still the team to beat
pdemon7261
11-20-2008, 01:13 AM
walser from buffalo
cowdell from towson
brodsky from rutgers
nelson from uri
brodsky from rutgers
stortini from west point
goalies
creek from uconn
latona from buffalo
eassyyyyyy
DABXNY
11-20-2008, 08:28 AM
Fulton at Rutgers. Plays both ends of the rink at the highest level.
teambergenfield
11-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Robbie Fulton. Hands down.
JLambertUMSL
11-20-2008, 02:46 PM
1. Fulton
2. Roux
3. Nelson
(Keeping in mind I haven't seen any of them play in a while, take my opinion with a grain of salt.)
cusanorojo
11-20-2008, 05:14 PM
robbie fulton is not the best in the ecrha....hes a smart, solid player but is not a dominating threat to opposing teams. Tyler Walser and Dustin roux are the best in ecrha most definitley and do dominate and take over games...both are very tough to stop
DABXNY
11-20-2008, 06:26 PM
robbie fulton is not the best in the ecrha....hes a smart, solid player but is not a dominating threat to opposing teams. Tyler Walser and Dustin roux are the best in ecrha most definitley and do dominate and take over games...both are very tough to stop
I guess that's your opinion, I happen to disagree. It's more than dangling and scoring goals. It's about setting the tone and the table, playing defense and making your teamates better.
simon10
11-20-2008, 07:27 PM
Tyler Wassler is the best player in the ecrha. The kid is flat out amazing. No one takes the puck from him, and he has unbelivable vision and a shot. Brenden Nelson is also awesome a game changer. BTW I think mike inge may be better then Ryan Cowdell.
wednthavddr
11-21-2008, 12:41 AM
Overall I think Inge is better. Cowdell is a great offensemen...sry for spelling...brain fart
DCbullets14
11-21-2008, 01:32 AM
I have played agaisnt tyler wassler, dustin roux, and robbie fulton and i think that tyler is the best out of the three. Tyler has a sick shot he can pretty much snipe it from anywhere not to mention his reach makes him great on the powerplay. I would say dustin is equally skilled but he doesnt always make the easy play or at least hasnt the last few times i have seen him (Not that im trying to bash him he is a much better player than I am and a great guy). One thing that dustin does have over tyler is that he brings a very physical style and protects the puck like no other. I have only played against fulton a few times but i never remember needing to focus on him the way that we have on the other two.
pghbandit11
11-21-2008, 03:08 AM
Dustin Roux is the best player in the ecrha, i know im probably a little biased, but i watched him single handley dominate a good rutgers, as well as dangle robbie fulton multiple times.
DABXNY
11-21-2008, 08:05 AM
Dustin Roux is the best player in the ecrha, i know im probably a little biased, but i watched him single handley dominate a good rutgers, as well as dangle robbie fulton multiple times.
We must have been watching different game. Roux is an extremely talented player, but he did not dominate anyone in that game.
fulton22
11-21-2008, 01:02 PM
ill give it to andrew brodsky, kid has been lights out dominant this year.
roux dominated rutgers? the kid didnt score a goal. he danced me once. i guess if you think that the kid making one sick move makes him dominant we have different opinions on the game.
with that said, walser and nelson are very good players. but as long as we keep winning ill gladly be called the worst player in the league.
teambergenfield
11-21-2008, 01:06 PM
I still gotta go with Fulton.
He was money last night at Inman.
keepPracticeing
11-21-2008, 03:08 PM
that kid nick narchus was lights out this week during practice and then house league kid could not be stopped ..... HIS HAND ARE ON FIRE
Dead34
11-21-2008, 03:29 PM
Wow, I've never heard so much rubbish in my life, the best player in the ecrha to ever play was Joe Malesic hands down! You PSU guys know who I'm talking about. :)
pghbandit11
11-21-2008, 03:44 PM
ill give it to andrew brodsky, kid has been lights out dominant this year.
roux dominated rutgers? the kid didnt score a goal. he danced me once. i guess if you think that the kid making one sick move makes him dominant we have different opinions on the game.
with that said, walser and nelson are very good players. but as long as we keep winning ill gladly be called the worst player in the league.
He controlled the pace of the game everytime he was on the rink, he set up most of the PSU scoring opportunities, the rutgers goalie played very good, you dont have to score a goal to have an impact on the game.
fulton22
11-21-2008, 05:45 PM
your wrong, let's just leave it at that.
he's a good player, but by no stretch of anyones imagination did he dominate the game.
DABXNY
11-21-2008, 06:10 PM
He controlled the pace of the game everytime he was on the rink, he set up most of the PSU scoring opportunities, the rutgers goalie played very good, you dont have to score a goal to have an impact on the game.
I watched that game and I disagree. Again he is a very good player, but he did not dominate that game. If I recall, his first assist came while Rutgers was shorthanded. His second came at the very end of a power play. The RU player was stepping out of the box and the 2 on 1 was well past that player when Penn State scored. He did dangle a couple of times, but he also had the puck swatted away a couple of times. Again he is extremely talented, but to say he controlled the game every time he was on the rink, is just not true.
On the other hand with RU down at that point, it was pretty clear Fulton wanted the puck, got it, skated left and sniped. As a fan watching that game it looked to me like he was determined to score and he did.
fulton22
11-21-2008, 06:24 PM
not that it really matters, but we were never down in that game, the score online is 5-4, but the final was 5-3. we were up 3-0, they came back to tie it, then we scored 2 goals.
DABXNY
11-22-2008, 08:19 AM
not that it really matters, but we were never down in that game, the score online is 5-4, but the final was 5-3. we were up 3-0, they came back to tie it, then we scored 2 goals.
I thought it was a 5-3 game. Couldn't figure out how it showed up 5-4 in the stats.
William Bourque
11-22-2008, 04:03 PM
not that it really matters, but we were never down in that game, the score online is 5-4, but the final was 5-3. we were up 3-0, they came back to tie it, then we scored 2 goals.
That's my bad. I changed a scoring mistake from the game and saved the "default" goal by mistake.
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DGlass
11-22-2008, 06:08 PM
It says more about the overall skill level of the league, but I don't think there is a clear cut most dominant player anymore.
Years past have seen Nuszkowski (RIT), Brunk (PSU), Boyd (UDel) and, even before my time, Mike Abbott (Pitt). These were guys who absolutely dominated the game and nobody was within skating distance of them. They would skate behind their net to set up a play and nobody would chase them down, because they would beat you every time.
Again, the problem here is that the overall talent level of the league in '01-'02 was probably a third of what it is today. I've seen B Division games in the last two years that were more competitive than DI/DII games my first year(s).
Wow...have I really been doing this since 2001?
Dean Portman
11-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Have any of you watched roller hockey at Narch, Torhs, or State Wars? The college league is an awful way to judge a player because it makes decent players look like great players. There shouldn't even be an argument. Brendan Nelson is the best player in the ecrha.
cusanorojo
11-23-2008, 12:22 PM
how can you say brandon nelson is the best player...he didn't even get a point vs. the worst team uconn...if he's so good he shouldve man handled that team.
cusanorojo
11-23-2008, 12:41 PM
I have watched narch torhs state wars and played in all three. I understand the college league isn't nearly as competitive or nearly the talent level of narch or torhs, but you can still tell the players who play that high level, such as nelson, roux, walser, maybe a few others. Nelson still isn't the best in the league though.
Dean Portman
11-23-2008, 01:20 PM
What are the reasons that you think the other players (Roux, don't even know who Walser is, Fulton) are better?
cusanorojo
11-23-2008, 02:39 PM
well ive wathced walser many times at college and at narch and torhs. He's very good player in narch and torhs and he leads the nation for college points by a decant amount. Nelson may have half the points he does if im correct. why is nelson so good if i may ask????? doesnt seem to do taht much in a not so good league according to you
InlineMBA
11-23-2008, 04:30 PM
There is no doubt that Tyler Walser is a very good player and should be in the mix when discussing "Top Player in D1 ECRHA". I too have seen him play NARCh and NCRHA, just as I have seen Nelson and Fulton play in NARCh, NCRHA and PIHA. However, I don't think this discussion of opinions should be based solely on PTS. Otherwise, this discussion would be over. There's A LOT MORE to evaluating who is the "Top Player" than just points. Tyler Walser may very well deserve "Top Player" accolades, but just don't base it on total points/goals.
At least that's my opinion.
Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8
keepPracticeing
11-23-2008, 08:01 PM
There is no doubt that Tyler Walser is a very good player and should be in the mix when discussing "Top Player in D1 ECRHA". I too have seen him play NARCh and NCRHA, just as I have seen Nelson and Fulton play in NARCh, NCRHA and PIHA. However, I don't think this discussion of opinions should be based solely on PTS. Otherwise, this discussion would be over. There's A LOT MORE to evaluating who is the "Top Player" than just points. Tyler Walser may very well deserve "Top Player" accolades, but just don't base it on total points/goals.
At least that's my opinion.
Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8
Thats why you are watching from the stands and we are on the rink . id like to see u lace them up one day
InlineMBA
11-23-2008, 08:32 PM
Thats why you are watching from the stands and we are on the rink . id like to see u lace them up one day
And your point is?
Steve Inge - ROXBURY 8
bauernike98
11-23-2008, 09:17 PM
Most dominant player = Walser
Most well rounded player = Nelson
Most valuable to team = Fulton
Most Overrated player = Roux
Just the input of a fellow ECRHA D1 player...
pghbandit11
11-23-2008, 09:41 PM
Most Overrated player = Roux
Just the input of a fellow ECRHA D1 player...
He is the only reason why PSU has been in close games with Rutgers,Towson, and Buffalo. I think there is a lot of people that would disagree with you. Please tell us why he is overrated?
bauernike98
11-23-2008, 09:58 PM
Last year they handed Buffalo 2 out of their 3 loses last year and tied them once, they also beat Towson once, and played them to a one goal game. Im not saying he isnt a good player, but Penn State is a good team with or without him, I cant say the same for Fulton at Rutgers or Walser at UB.
pghbandit11
11-23-2008, 11:11 PM
Last year they handed Buffalo 2 out of their 3 loses last year and tied them once, they also beat Towson once, and played them to a one goal game. Im not saying he isnt a good player, but Penn State is a good team with or without him, I cant say the same for Fulton at Rutgers or Walser at UB.
Once again you didnt say how he was overrated.
cjk07
11-23-2008, 11:13 PM
to say tom cartwright from stony brook is not one of the best players in the ecrha is total disrespect to hockey. stony brook has one the divison 2 championship and still has had no recogonition, not to live in the past, but he is a great hockey player and needs to be considered
cjk07
11-23-2008, 11:15 PM
i mean won
cjk07
11-23-2008, 11:31 PM
to say dane from towson is one of the best players in the ecrha is also another dishonesty to the college roller hockey league, dont get me wrong he is a solid player but by far not even in the catogory as the best, before you considered him you must consider a rookie paulie balls valvo, you guys base way to much on points and not as much on who can play hockey, points do not mean you are a great hockey player..........
bauernike98
11-23-2008, 11:46 PM
The reason why i personally think he is overrated because having played against the 4 players seeming to get the most attention in this thread (Walser, Fulton, Nelson, and Roux) i was the least impressed with Roux. Walser, Fulton , and Nelson were standout players and make plays every time they touch the puck. Roux just tries to dangle everyone and make a nice pass. Also I am pretty sure you are from Pitt and probably friends and or teammates with Dustin so i dont blame you for sticking up for him i would do the same, I am just sharing my personal opinion, as you have as well.
RustyPipes27
11-23-2008, 11:56 PM
Thats why you are watching from the stands and we are on the rink . id like to see u lace them up one day
Good one. Really thoughtful.
cjk07
11-23-2008, 11:56 PM
again not to consider cartwright as one of the best players in the ecrha is not doing the ecrha any justice, you all name big name players, but how about the players who make a name for themselves?
RustyPipes27
11-24-2008, 12:28 AM
again not to consider cartwright as one of the best players in the ecrha is not doing the ecrha any justice, you all name big name players, but how about the players who make a name for themselves?
I'm confused here. You say that everyone is naming big name players, which you're against. However, you're for bringing up the players who make names for themselves. What? I'm not even trying to be a prick here. I'm just confused.
cjk07
11-24-2008, 12:37 AM
what i am saying is not to consider a player like cartwright as one of the best players in the ecrha is not right. cartwright is a great player and has been one for a number of years.....you critcs are doing excatly what is expected, name the ones with the most points and not the ones who are indeed the most well rounded most important player to their team.
RustyPipes27
11-24-2008, 12:41 AM
what i am saying is not to consider a player like cartwright as one of the best players in the ecrha is not right. cartwright is a great player and has been one for a number of years.....you critcs are doing excatly what is expected, name the ones with the most points and not the ones who are indeed the most well rounded most important player to their team.
You critics? I haven't said anything about anyone in this thread. I have my own opinions on who the best players in the ECRHA, but I don't feel like adding to the awkward hero worship that floods these message boards on a daily basis.
cjk07
11-24-2008, 12:48 AM
i agree with you, just posting for the ones who i feel are under represented, no disrespect to you, from what i have seen cartwright has been one of the best players in the ecrha for a long time now, just think if he doesnt want to speak up for himself some else dose, not say he is the best, just that he needs to be considered as one of the top
RustyPipes27
11-24-2008, 12:49 AM
I don't anything about him, so what makes him so good? What separates him from the other players named?
SBU39
11-24-2008, 12:54 AM
im pretty sure he's referring to the people who are criticizing the players, and isn't making a personal attack on you...of course that is just my opinion, and we all know what to say about opinions.
And while we're on the topic of opinions: I think that the "best" player in the ecrha isn't necessarily someone who puts up the most points, etc, etc....You do have to take into account the intangibles, like leadership, morale, attitude as well as the obvious numbers...to add to that, I dont think anyone can accurately pick a player unbiased or just based on college numbers
Given I play with cart, I can honestly say hes one of the best players I have ever stepped on the rink with. Aside from the fact he's an animal, has the confidence in his game that adds to the confidence of the team and puts up numbers; he kills penalties, runs the powerplays and plays defense, very well i might add
I have played with Nelson, and he probably the most talented forward I have played with. Hes a leader, puts up the numbers everyone talks about, etc. etc....i guess my point is, lets not jump down each others throats, and show the goalies some love
cjk07
11-24-2008, 12:58 AM
i am not saying that, all i am saying is that maybe next time, you should watch him play, his playing speaks all for himself, you know matt he might of had a sniped on you, you just gotta live with it, he is a player that needs to be considered, just watch and see, he will not dissapoint.......
RustyPipes27
11-24-2008, 01:05 AM
i am not saying that, all i am saying is that maybe next time, you should watch him play, his playing speaks all for himself, you know matt he might of had a sniped on you, you just gotta live with it, he is a player that needs to be considered, just watch and see, he will not dissapoint.......
Everyone is so defensive on here. I was seriously asking for your honest opinion of him since I'm unfamiliar with him. I haven't seen Stonybrook at all this year, and we were rarely at the same events last year.
And I played in the league for five years. Plenty of guys sniped me.
RustyPipes27
11-24-2008, 01:08 AM
Given I play with cart, I can honestly say hes one of the best players I have ever stepped on the rink with. Aside from the fact he's an animal, has the confidence in his game that adds to the confidence of the team and puts up numbers; he kills penalties, runs the powerplays and plays defense, very well i might add
This is the kind of answer I was looking for.
cusanorojo
11-24-2008, 08:47 AM
cusanorojo,
State your opinion, keep it clean!
cusanorojo
11-24-2008, 08:52 AM
casanorojo,
No need to get nasty, please keep it clean!...Thanks
tambo6
11-24-2008, 03:04 PM
Cartwright is the best defenseman in the league and has not received the recognition he deserves. He is a hockey player and that's what seperates him from the rest.
bauernike98
11-24-2008, 04:02 PM
care to elaborate on "hey is a hockey player"
Dean Portman
11-24-2008, 04:20 PM
Most dominant player = Walser
Most well rounded player = Nelson
Most valuable to team = Fulton
Most Overrated player = Roux
Just the input of a fellow ECRHA D1 player...
Best assessment I have read today. Couldn't put it any better!
Coleman90
11-24-2008, 04:44 PM
college roller hockey sucks anyway, watched a game lately? So your claim to being the best player in the ecrha doesn't mean ****. league sucks as a whole other than Lindenwood who goes out and recruits while all you other saps just sit around live on your egos and hope that a good player enrolls in your school. to be honest with bauer95 is the best player in the league, but like the rest he has no balls to say who he is. Anyone with any talent is playing ice hockey, sorry roller dudes it's the truth.
Joe Coleman
RU
PGHhockey
11-24-2008, 04:54 PM
Anyone with any talent is playing ice hockey, sorry roller dudes it's the truth.
I'm not quite sure I know what you mean, Joe...
I know plenty of talented ice players that were tired of the money, politics, and garbage that gets thrown around an ice hockey club/league. If you're not A) a once-in-a-lifetime talent, B) financially well-off, or C) friends with someone who is...you're probably going nowhere playing ice.
I wish this whole inline/ice thing would just get put to bed already. The world revolves around money, and there's no money in hockey. Ask anyone on this board.
Come to think of it, there's no money in college sports either, unless you're in football or basketball. I personally stopped playing baseball in college after my sophmore year because it was just useless. Sure, I love the game, but 5am practices, classes all day, 4pm practices, and mandatory study sessions did nothing for my education, my salary, or my life. So you wanna play hockey beyond high school? Beyond Juniors? Play for fun, because that's all you're doing. It just so happens that having fun playing inline is a lot cheaper than having fun playing ice.
Just play what you like to play, and respect the opposite surface for what they do.
cusanorojo
11-24-2008, 05:34 PM
I agree. Plenty of good ice players play roller hockey. In fact some sick ice players suck and can't skate on roller blades. Roller hockey doesnt get enough credit.
Anyone with any talent is playing ice hockey, sorry roller dudes it's the truth.
Joe Coleman
RU
There's money to be made playing ice hockey, there is none in roller. If you are talented at both, of course you will pursue a career in ice. Your statement says nothing, other than people will go where they can make a living playing hockey. No sh*t.
tourdragon87
11-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Am I wrong in pointing out that this is the INLINE hockey central website, not ICE. Im pretty sure that any of us who play derby know about derby. Why not ask a couple of of NHL'ers where they got their hands...i bet they will say in derby. FYI Lindenwood doesnt need to recruit, everyone just wants to go there to play hockey and win.
And by the way...threads with the "who is the top player" as the topic are just throwing gas on the fire. It is pointless, everyone will see who the true top playerS are at nattys.
PGHhockey
11-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Or they'll tell you they got their hands playing with a ball on the CA beaches in the 80's & 90's *cough*
GSJaguars11
11-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Am I wrong in pointing out that this is the INLINE hockey central website, not ICE. Im pretty sure that any of us who play derby know about derby. Why not ask a couple of of NHL'ers where they got their hands...i bet they will say in derby. FYI Lindenwood doesnt need to recruit, everyone just wants to go there to play hockey and win.
And by the way...threads with the "who is the top player" as the topic are just throwing gas on the fire. It is pointless, everyone will see who the true top playerS are at nattys.
what is that?
tourdragon87
11-24-2008, 09:44 PM
derby=roller
we all already know that there isnt alot of money in the game. What is the point of beating a dead dog. We play the game because we love it not always for the money.
JLambertUMSL
11-25-2008, 03:47 PM
Have any of you watched roller hockey at Narch, Torhs, or State Wars? The college league is an awful way to judge a player because it makes decent players look like great players. There shouldn't even be an argument. Brendan Nelson is the best player in the ecrha.
It's two different games. College is 36 minute stop clock and a very long season -- college teams are together for seven or eight months. It's just different. It takes a different kind of player (not a BETTER player, just a different kind of player) to be a great college player. Grit, consistency, leadership, focus, durability, etc. That's why I have Fulton at #1, and also why if I were building a college team I'd take someone like Adam Clarke or Jeff Hill over just about anyone else. There are lots of players more talented than those two, but those guys have what it takes to lead a college team to victory.
Just my opinion. (Which, incidentally, might help explain why Cody Baugh, who's arguably UMSL's most talented offensive player, is on our B team...for now.)
JLambertUMSL
11-25-2008, 03:52 PM
And by the way...threads with the "who is the top player" as the topic are just throwing gas on the fire. It is pointless, everyone will see who the true top playerS are at nattys.
That's what a message board is for though. :)
JLambertUMSL
11-25-2008, 03:53 PM
Cartwright is the best defenseman in the league and has not received the recognition he deserves. He is a hockey player and that's what seperates him from the rest.
Forgot about him...he's up there too. He is a badass.
pdemon7261
11-26-2008, 10:51 AM
how can you say brandon nelson is the best player...he didn't even get a point vs. the worst team uconn...if he's so good he shouldve man handled that team.
this is probably one of the dumbest quotes ive ever seen...yeah brendan nelson is not the best player in the league because he didnt manhandle uconn...your absolutely right.
i agree with what most people are saying about cartwright...hes definitely underrated, but hes more of a well rounded player like fulton- who leads his team and does everything really well. everything on stony brook starts and ends with him...the powerplay, penalty kill, etc. most teams need a player/leader in the cartwright/fulton mode.
anyway, i think if your going to talk about people who are very important to their team, there are a couple more names to be brought up...
toffler from west point- hes a complete player, and seems to be the heart and soul of that team.
sines from pittsburgh- take him away and what do you have on that team
creek from uconn- great goalie on a terrible team... 2-0-1 when he starts this year... 0-7-1 when he doesnt- nuff' said.
Mtour71
11-26-2008, 11:14 AM
A lot of you guys weren't at Nationals in 07? Nelson beat some of the top teams in the country by himself and brought his team to the National Championship game against Lindenwood. RI had no business being there.
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