News worth noticing...

[ianmackie]

From the NARCh website...

"Possible Change in Insurance Direction and Sanctioning
VERY IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ!

NARCh continues to try to offer our players and coaches the best of everything in the sport. If you purchase USA Hockey Insurance for the sole purpose of playing in NARCh Events, please DO NOT PURCHASE IT YET! There are many exciting things going on in our industry right now and USA Hockey may not be our provider going forward. More information will be available as soon as we have it. If you have already purchased it, please email [email protected]"

Discuss...

[DCbullets14]

If Narch went with AAU that would be huge for AAU and would make the tournemnt scene very intresting.

[rhhof]

Calls and emails to Daryn from my office havent been returned as he is waiting to make things official - from an email I did receive from him

He wrote me that some BIG things are in the works and to stand by

I see TORHS has released its Regional Schedule - Well most of it....I cant wait to see it out here in Vegas come December - Need help runnin things?

I was waiting at the end Ian - I mean you could say like...tawk amungst yaselves

[calihockey]

It's almost like Blu Ray v HD DVD...once one of the big guns chooses to switch sides...maybe one true governing body is not far behind?

[alex]

I think it would be funny (if this did turn out to be NARCh going with AAU) that our governing body would gain legitimacy from becoming the insurer of a tournament series that AAU sanctioned rinks have tried to run out of southern California. It's "hurting the sport" and "not helping the rinks" but hey now we've become the insurer, GO NARCH!

Just speculating.

[Mtour71]

AAU + NARCh= DEFINITELY NOT HAPPENING
NARCh + State Wars + Torhs = ALLIES (Could be interesting?)

[jawz&chum]

not going to be AAU

[zipyaj]

It has been brought to my attention that the November 3rd, CIF Winter Sports Summit (high school) in San Diego included an attendee representing the sports' most recognized business leader in promoting roller hockey tournaments across the country. Further, that this attendee and speaker may have significantly influenced a vote by attendees swaying a previous affiliation with the AAU to USAHIL.

Big news?

Caveat lector!

[Doug Jones]

To respond appropriately,

:)

[silverman56]

Is it me or does mtour71 sound like Ian Mackie?

Torhs + Narch + State Wars = three sharks that will eventually turn on each other.

What does Narch, State Wars and Torhs get out of being allies?

[Berry_Bramble]

NARCh is not going with AAU..just be patient..should be worth the wait.

[silverman56]

Only choices left would be USARS or they are doing their own membership.

[Mtour71]

Should be interesting!
;)

[silverman56]

Just can't wait.... could it be another ALLIANCE? Let's hope not!

Alliances, allies, partnerships call them what you want they have done nothing to help the sport.

[calihockey]

Silverman,

Wait for the release to comment. Who knows what is going to come about.

[STEMM]

Why does NARCh, State Wars, or whoever require USA Hockey Inline Membership anyway ??? It is NOT insurance, like many people might think. It is a waiver. If you read your membership agreement it clearly states..."It is the purpose of this agreement to excempt, waive and release from liability for personal injury, property damage, and wrongful death, including if caused by negligence, if any of releasees. Releasees include USA Hockey, Inc and USA Hockey Inline and their respective affiliate associations"ext...

If it's a waiver you want your players to sign, then create one and have your each player or parent sign one.

[MBurke]

http://www.usahockey.com//Template_UsahockeyInline.aspx?NAV=ME_02&ID=1750

..or just read this and get it straight from the horse's mouth.

IANAL, but my understanding is that the waiver covers the sanction of USAHIL on events and tournaments so you can't bring suit against USAHIL due to injury at a sanctioned event.

I do know that many players in the ECRHA have filed claims over the years for excess accident coverage and I haven't yet heard of a problem related to those claims.

[Doug Jones]

Just can't wait.... could it be another ALLIANCE? Let's hope not!

Alliances, allies, partnerships call them what you want they have done nothing to help the sport.



and what have you done to help the sport? by the way, introduce yourself please so we can all know who is speaking with a wealth of experience and knowledge.

Also Rich, you may want to check the IP of this user. I smell a rat and someone with two id's

[PGHhockey]

NARCh + State Wars + Torhs = ALLIES (Could be interesting?)

I always thought someone should buy up all 3. The banking industry consolidated this year, why not the inline hockey industry? :)

[silverman56]

Go for it. I'm a rat for asking questions and make a few assumptions, I must be close to home on my comments for Doug to get his feathers so ruffled. Trust must me Doug I have done plenty for this sport.


Mr. Rat
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[branches87]

silverman you must be a class act

[RichardGraham]

Hi Folks,

Let's keep the comments on topic and not get too personal, shall we? Thanks. Don't want to have to bring down the heavy stick. ;)

[Doug Jones]

Go for it. I'm a rat for asking questions and make a few assumptions, I must be close to home on my comments for Doug to get his feathers so ruffled. Trust must me Doug I have done plenty for this sport.


Mr. Rat
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Head Coach
Equipment Manager
Popcorn Vendor


A lot for the sport as an anonymous poster who throws daggers at people who post here truth and fact? I ask a question and you pop off at me, then of course, something your not involved with is announced and you make assumptions not only about Mac, but then tell us how Alliances don't work from the safety of your family's personal computer.

One word description for you, C-O-W-A-R-D ;)

Don't reply until you have the courage to introduce yourself, Mr. "I have done a lot for the sport".

[Doug Jones]

Hi Folks,

Let's keep the comments on topic and not get too personal, shall we? Thanks. Don't want to have to bring down the heavy stick. ;)

Rich,

This is the second time this so called poster has come and spewn his slime on posts. I think he should be able to stand up and be recognized for who he is, not as anonymous poster who attacks and discredits things with an anonymous opinion.

After all, he's done a lot for the sport.

[CUDangled]

Why does NARCh, State Wars, or whoever require USA Hockey Inline Membership anyway ??? It is NOT insurance, like many people might think. It is a waiver. If you read your membership agreement it clearly states..."It is the purpose of this agreement to excempt, waive and release from liability for personal injury, property damage, and wrongful death, including if caused by negligence, if any of releasees. Releasees include USA Hockey, Inc and USA Hockey Inline and their respective affiliate associations"ext...

If it's a waiver you want your players to sign, then create one and have your each player or parent sign one.


A buddy of mine broke his arm at a "sanctioned tournament". He had just quit one job and had not started the next yet. So, his unlucky butt had no health insurance. USA Hockey covered a big chunk of his medical bills.

How is that not "insurance"?

Yes it also protectst the rink owners and the tournaments/leagues...but that is also a good thing. If they were financially exposed, they would have to buy (more) insurance and just pass that along to you...the customer.

[RichardGraham]

Hi Doug,

I looked at silverman56's original post in this thread, and it seemed pretty tame to me:

>Just can't wait.... could it be another ALLIANCE? Let's hope not! Alliances, allies, partnerships call them what you want they have done nothing to help the sport.<

He didn't name any names, he just had an opinion on alliances in general. In this instance, I think you put the match to the torch with your reply. As such, I find it difficult to see why his posts should be deleted. If I delete his, I'll have to delete yours.

What would you like me to do?

[GROWL]

Getting back to the original question. As a business you must carry your own liability insurance and by carrying a supplemental insurance like AAU or USA Hockey it can significantly lowers your premium.

[STEMM]

CUDangled, I stand corrected, I was wrong. I read the link posted by MBurke (which had another link that said it WAS insurance...but my question then is why does my USA Hockey Inline Card say "It is the purpose of this agreement to excempt, waive and release from liability for personal injury, property damage, and wrongful death, including if caused by negligence, if any of releasees. Releasees include USA Hockey, Inc and USA Hockey Inline and their respective affiliate associations" ??? I guess they would have to print that to keep them from getting sued, but that's just a guess ?

[Doug Jones]

No Rich, I simply asked who he was and since he continuously (at least with me) has demonstrated a pattern of negative responses with anonymity, I asked him to introduce himself, which he won't.

It's ok, his affiliation and colors are apparent.

[CUDangled]

CUDangled, I stand corrected, I was wrong. I read the link posted by MBurke (which had another link that said it WAS insurance...but my question then is why does my USA Hockey Inline Card say "It is the purpose of this agreement to excempt, waive and release from liability for personal injury, property damage, and wrongful death, including if caused by negligence, if any of releasees. Releasees include USA Hockey, Inc and USA Hockey Inline and their respective affiliate associations" ??? I guess they would have to print that to keep them from getting sued, but that's just a guess ?

I am not an attorney...so don't quote me on all of this.

They want to cover you through insurance, but at the same time want to make it clear that they don't want you to sue them.

For example, when you break your arm and go to the doctor, your health insurance covers the cost. You don't SUE them for it. That is why that disclaimer is on the card. Your health insurance probably has the same disclaimer.

[STEMM]

It's been 10 days since NARCh announced this possible change on their website. Does anyone know tha latest on this ?