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???
06-26-2008, 10:37 AM
I'm not a player, and I'm not affiliated with any team. But please, can someone explain the MCRHL All-Star team?? I realize that people will say "oh it's just an all-star game, it's for fun" and "stop worrying/complaining about the selections", but can I just say that if you look at the team for 2 seconds, you'll see my point.

Listed - 4 Players from MSU, 5 Players from OCC, 1 Player from EMU

NOT Listed:
Lubanski and Schultz (two of the top scorers in the division)
The two top goalies in the division
Anyone from OSU
Anyone from Michigan
Anyone from GVSU (who had some good players in DII)

Not to call out names, but some of the players picked were 2nd or 3rd line players on their own team. My main point of this post is this:

If you are going to bill this division as "All-Stars" and make it something that's deemed to be an HONOR, then pick teams that reflect your intention, not just fill up a roster with players from two teams.

Leaferguy
06-26-2008, 11:03 AM
Just saying that there's a chance they couldn't/didn't want to go... Just food for thought.

MBurke
06-26-2008, 11:16 AM
Just saying that there's a chance they couldn't/didn't want to go... Just food for thought.

Which is 90% of the reason the rosters (collectively across all of the regions, I can't speak for any particular region or player) took so long to announce. Players either didn't respond or opted out.

CUDangled
06-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Is any region even SLIGHTLY pleased with their "all-star*" roster?

Perhaps this entire event should be re-thought. Do we really want to be presenting "our best" when it isn't? Do we want high school kids at Narch to see these teams and think "I could skate circles around that pylon cone and HE plays college hockey"?

NHouser
06-26-2008, 11:35 AM
Regions worked with more intent on selecting players who could commit to representing their region in San Jose, rather than just 'naming' all the top players - they were first asked if they could commit. The teams may not boil down to the absolute best of the best, none the less, we are proud to have them representing their region and helping to further promote college roller hockey at such a great event.

William Bourque
06-26-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm please with the ECRHA team. It's a really good team with talented players that will not leave anyone with the opinion that they are "pylons". The West and Great Plains also have really deep and talented teams.



Do we want high school kids at Narch to see these teams and think "I could skate circles around that pylon cone and HE plays college hockey"?

Besides ridiculing the guys who are going, and referring to them as "pylon cones" you should support then and hope they have a good time representing the region, because from the sounds of it, not many people were interested enough.

???
06-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Please don't say I'm ridiculing players when I have not named or defamed anyone selected.

I am merely stating a fact that the entire team is made up of constituents from two schools. And I don't believe that the excuse is lack of interest considering the diversity of the team last year, as well as the fact that many skilled players from the omitted schools are at NARCh every year.

William Bourque
06-26-2008, 12:33 PM
Please don't say I'm ridiculing players when I have not named or defamed anyone selected.

I am merely stating a fact that the entire team is made up of constituents from two schools. And I don't believe that the excuse is lack of interest considering the diversity of the team last year, as well as the fact that many skilled players from the omitted schools are at NARCh every year.

I'm sorry, i should have quoted the poster i was directing my comment at.

CUDangled
06-26-2008, 02:16 PM
Regions worked with more intent on selecting players who could commit to representing their region in San Jose, rather than just 'naming' all the top players - they were first asked if they could commit. The teams may not boil down to the absolute best of the best, none the less, we are proud to have them representing their region and helping to further promote college roller hockey at such a great event.

And that logic is what makes this system flawed.

NAME the best players...then work down to who will commit. Then no one can complain. Just like when bids for nationals are given out. We don't sit around and think about who will/will not accept. We give out the bids...then knowing some teams won't accept, we name alternates. Just like the NHL all-star team. They name the team and sometimes, or one reason or another, the player won't play in the game and the spot is given to an alternate.

This way, when we look at the rosters we don't say WTF is this. We then call our buddies who are on another level than the "all-star*" players and say "Why didn't you want to go"? Rather than saying "Sorry you got screwed again".

This whole process needs to start earlier too. Maybe January? We already know who the outstanding players are. Why not start the ball rolling then? Have all the teams submit their nominations at their 4th or 5th event (as someone else suggested). Why wait? If I was going to CA, I would want more than a month or two to plan for it.

wednthavddr
06-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Thats stupid... Why do you want the names of the best people in the region. You know who they are and so do they. People were contacted for who can commit..Can you imagine how much longer it would take to find 12 top players then another 6-8 alternates. If NARCh was closer I would understand you point. Its across the country so it was more important to have your region represented then not have a team at all.
I am fortunate to be on the team and I know that if the elite players were on it I would not be going. We may not be able to represent talent wise but im sure everybody will show a lot of class, rep the region, and have a good time. What else do you want from us when you have such low expectations?

-Steven Regan
USF ROLLER HOCKEY

NHouser
06-26-2008, 03:39 PM
You could name the best players yourself by just going by the stats on the site(s). Each region has their choice right now as to how they would like to handle their NARCh team selections.
I agree with your suggestion for the regions to choose their teams earlier. Or maybe we can just take the All-Stars from each region that are already selected.

CUDangled
06-26-2008, 04:21 PM
Thats stupid... Why do you want the names of the best people in the region. You know who they are and so do they. People were contacted for who can commit..Can you imagine how much longer it would take to find 12 top players then another 6-8 alternates. If NARCh was closer I would understand you point. Its across the country so it was more important to have your region represented then not have a team at all.
I am fortunate to be on the team and I know that if the elite players were on it I would not be going. We may not be able to represent talent wise but im sure everybody will show a lot of class, rep the region, and have a good time. What else do you want from us when you have such low expectations?

-Steven Regan
USF ROLLER HOCKEY

The response to the SE was no different last year and the Narch event was right in our own backyard...so the "distance" explanation goes out the window.

The logical way to handle this is say here is the list of invited players. You must respond by this deadline. As of that deadline we go to the second tier and so on.

As a player/coach/teammate/sponsor/fan/parent/etc I would at least like to have the first picks publically honored for their selection.

jsp047
06-26-2008, 04:38 PM
The logical way to handle this is say here is the list of invited players. You must respond by this deadline. As of that deadline we go to the second tier and so on.
Can't say for the SE, but this is exactly how it was handled in the west.


I would at least like to have the first picks publically honored for their selection.
Just to boost their egos? They know personally that they were picked, they couldn't make it...so they moved on.

wednthavddr
06-26-2008, 05:47 PM
How can you say the response is no different. Last year there was 12 players on the team. There is 6 this year.

I know a few people that cannot go because the money to fly to San Jose stop them from going.

ThatJusHappened
06-27-2008, 12:47 AM
The MCRHL team is good, but not even close to what they should be. I heard that one of the kids on the team just picked the team. No one was asked outside of those teams. It'll be interesting to see how well they will do.

GripperWheels
06-27-2008, 02:02 AM
Good Luck to the players should be alot of fun.

Looks like the MCRHL just discriminated against the whole region but two teams.

Looks Like Michigan State and OCC runs the regional Director.

Last year each team was only allowed to have three players repersent there team.

ISFN
06-27-2008, 05:37 AM
Great Plains has "B" team players on the team..you think anyone on that team is taking it serious, much less anyone in the tournament.

JLambertUMSL
06-27-2008, 01:33 PM
Alex Nebrig deserves it, and I'm happy for him. Same with Eric Thompson.

But for the second straight year, Andy Meade and Blake Propp were left off the team. I think those guys deserved an invitation.

Not trying to be a critical whiny ass. Just wanted to mention the names of two guys who deserve it more than most.

ISFN
06-27-2008, 01:45 PM
It's not about who deserves it..its all about whos friends with who and thats not just in NCRHA its in roller hockey everywhere.

JLambertUMSL
06-27-2008, 02:33 PM
It's not about who deserves it..its all about whos friends with who and thats not just in NCRHA its in roller hockey everywhere.

Yep. Sometimes loyalty turns into cronyism.

str8iq
06-30-2008, 06:53 PM
first of all the kids on the mcrhl team play together on tournments teams and they will be very difficult to beat....don't go by stats it doesn't matter what it says on paper besides (yoko and ascenzo both leading in points) just wait and see how these kids play together you will be shocked

WCRHL
07-01-2008, 12:27 PM
The WCRHL is very pleased with the group of players that will be representing the West at the Narch event!

I would also venture to guess that the GPCIHL is pretty pleased with their group of players. It's going to be a tough one against the GPCIHL team, just like last year.

ThatJusHappened
07-18-2008, 03:06 AM
HAHAH....Str8iq. you guys are representing the mcrhl real well. 0-2. maybe now you see that the mcrhl team isnt anywhere near what it could have been.

CUDangled
07-29-2008, 12:12 PM
first of all the kids on the mcrhl team play together on tournments teams and they will be very difficult to beat....don't go by stats it doesn't matter what it says on paper besides (yoko and ascenzo both leading in points) just wait and see how these kids play together you will be shocked

The COLLEGE all-star teams should be about COLLEGE performance, not what you may have down outside of the NCRHA on a tourney team with other players in the college league.

ShowNoMercy
07-29-2008, 03:39 PM
Does Ascenzo ever pass? He sure can dangle, but he hits the goalie in the chest like every time.

str8iq
09-13-2008, 04:23 PM
i'm pretty sure if you look at ascenzo's stats is shows that he does pass the puck and puts it in the back of the net...