PIHA Minor League All Star Game

[Phantom305]

Hey all

Now that we know the Minor League All Star game will be played and that the Mason Dixon team has been selected; I ask you guys and girls this:

Who do you think should've been on the Mason Dixon team?

Who do you think should be on the Southeast team?

What would your Mason Dixon, and Southeast teams look like?

And once the Southeast team is posted, who do you think will win?

Please no bashing of the players that did or didn't make it, this is only for fun.

Thanks

P.S. Bourque....will this game be on Pick'em for that week?

[Phantom305]

just trying to keep the post up.

[General28]

What, no talk on this subject?

[nyrhatric]

I don't know too much about the Southern Division's teams other then Richmond. But I do think that the Apex Assault should have a decent advantage of playing as a team for a season now.

Where's some of the Savannah Minor guys? They've been competitive with 4 OTL's. Did they choose not to join in on this event?

Richmond's got a lot of talent on that team, and though I can't put a face to all the guys who made the team, I know that they are going to be good. I don't know much about York.

The Mason Division teams should be really good. I think there is a ton of talent in the Mason Division on the Minor squads. The season has been very competitive with a lot of games being 1 or 2 goal games.

I think one of the 2 Mason Division teams will probably win the event. Probably the West Team, as they have more individuals from the same teams. But It should be a very exciting weekend.

Congrats to all the players who made the 4 teams! Best of luck to everyone!


Bobby Henry
Potomac Mavericks #2

[William Bourque]

P.S. Bourque....will this game be on Pick'em for that week?


No.

I am rather disappointed with the Minor's having All-Star games, but the Pro's not having one.

My protest will be ignoring the entire event.

Sorry.

[Dave Garland]

Will,


You can follow the Gateway one then, haha.

On March 29th we have our All Star Extravaganza:

Minor All Star Game
Pro All Star Game

...and skills competitions for both divisions!

Press release coming out soon and all All Stars will be chosen by Saturday (announced live on the air during the radio show)

[growl89]

this is both exciting and disappointing for the league.


No league wide all-star game, which i can understand, kind of...

But only one division is having a Pro All Star game? What's that about? It's too bad... There are some great players that deserve recognition in all of the divisions.

[joisyan]

are divisional all-star games something that the owners can or have voted on? because if they are being decided by division coordinators then i'm wondering why we're not having a pro game or skills competitions...just baffled much like bill

[Dave Garland]

We did it on our own.


Our players deserve it so we decided to put a very special day together for both levels and add in a fun skills competition with prizes, etc.

[William Bourque]

Will,


You can follow the Gateway one then, haha.

On March 29th we have our All Star Extravaganza:

Minor All Star Game
Pro All Star Game

...and skills competitions for both divisions!

Press release coming out soon and all All Stars will be chosen by Saturday (announced live on the air during the radio show)


Thats good to hear.

Hope Everything works out for you.

Good Luck.

Oh and call me Bill...the whole Will thing, not so much...

[Dave Garland]

...will do. Haha.

[stksave27]

"are divisional all-star games something that the owners can or have voted on?"

Currently owners don't "vote" for anything in PIHA. All decisions are handled by the holy trinity.

[CoachClipboard]

joiysan, The league office decided it would be minor league all stars only this year, not pro for whatever the reason. In all years past it is the league itself that schedules the pro all star game. Division coordinators are only asked to help the league organize the divisional minor league all star game. As your division coordinator, I have done so to the best of my ablity and the use of my own personal time. Your welcome.

That the gateway is having their own for pro..........shrugs....
same ol same ol.........

[joisyan]

haha, appreciate it todd

[Tekkaman]

Just wondering who's all going to the Mason Dixon/Southeast All-Star Game besides the players selected????????

[General28]

Does anyone have the results and scoresheet information from the Mason Dixon Southeast All Star games? I am just curious. Thanks.

[Robins #2]

I was somewhat dissappointed with the minor all star game. Im am glad we had one, and sorry the pros didnt, but dissappointed about what happend there.

Richmond/york- southeast North, won both games 6-2 and 8-1 i beleive

pittsburgh/scottsdale/winchester- Mason Dixon West, won both of their games.

After each team beat the other all star team within their division, the winners were then suppose to play eachother, but the representative said different when the two teams had the same color all-star jerseys on. A bit of a dissappointment to go home with 2 winning teams when it could have been settled.

Also, with much respect to All-star MVP Mike Zyuzin, he is a good player, however that weekend other players had more points, a Richmond player had more points, as well as Inferno's Tyler Davis who played amazing both games, including a highlight reel goal. I feel they got shafted on that one.

We started late because of jerseys and pants arriving late, the shootout was drawn out, it all could have been planned much better for an All-Star Event. I would hope if they have a pro all star game next season it would be planned a lot better than that one as they draw a larger crowd.

[CoachClipboard]

yeah, I got lost on the way there and had the pants in my trunk. I did a lousy job, blah blah blah, stop being a whining bitch and start helping out instead of crying from the other side of the glass. sign your name to what you write as well. The job is yours, Im out. Someone owes me for the extra money I spent out of pocket too by the way and three pucks lost that I supplied. You sir, suck. See you in Harrisburg this week...come talk to me, introduce yourself.

Todd Wiley
Harrisburg Lunatics

[Falcons77]

Hey Todd, why arent we hearing, "Thanks for the hard work you put into this?"

Todd Wiley IS NOT PAID to drive 3 hours to Maryland with all the gear, trophies, etc. He is a volunteer with little to no help. Did ANYONE say thanks to him for what he did do?

Yes, things could have been better, but at least the minors got an all-star game; Pros dont get one!

Before you start saying how got what awards, etc; find out the story behind who picked the MVP and what other players "turned down".

[seanth123]

Robins#2,

Are you kidding me !?!?

That is why you are playing Minor perhaps and not Pro. Or, perhaps you are too young too play Pro, and that explains your selfish attitude towards Mr Wiley and a few others that put out the effort (at the last minute I understand) to get something for the Minors to have fun with. The fact that you were selected should be enough. The intent was to allow Minor players to have fun, meet other teams players, and showcase your skills. NOT win a trophy, determine who's the best (cmon in an allstar game?), or spotlight any one player.

I don't play PIHA because of an ice hockey commitment, but I am a big fan and try to make games in Maryland, and PA when I can. I was at the Allstar game in Maryland with my nephew, and we thought it was enjoying to watch.

I have not met Mr Wiley, but thank you for an enjoyable day of hockey sir!

As for Robins #2, I assume you are from Richmond, and play for the Robins minors. I am originally from their as well. Suck it up, and stop making the local Richmond hockey look like whinning kids. Or, consider playing youth hockey somemore if your age dictates.

Sorry for the frustration, but I took a cheap hit last night, and all the young punk could do was whine to the penalty box, and out of the rink. I am looking for blood from whoever opens their mouth.

[minutemen]

You go Todd, it seems to me you bent over backwards so the All Star game would happen. That player should just be happy that you and whom ever else volunteered did. Man some people that complain on this board have to realize what the owners and volunteers do for this league. Without those people this league would not happen. I am not involved with the league this year, but I will say thanks. You busted your butt to have an all star game and it can only set an example for the rest of the league next year. For the others that helped Todd out thanks to you as well. I will be returning next season can't wait. We plan on having a tournament this summer hope you and the team can make it. Would be good to see you, it has been a while.

[swhite]

Wow, someone gives their opinion on what happened at the all-star game, and everyone jumps down his throat. Someone calls him a 'whining bitch', tells him to suck it up, etc.. Isn't that the type of thing Robins #2 should be saying, since everyone thinks he is an immature kid?

Yeah, maybe he could said some of it a little differently, but allow him to point out what he thinks are some issues with the event and then you can correct him where he is wrong. If he didn't have all the info about how the MVP was picked, then tell him in an adult fashion.

I wasn't at the event, but the league didn't give out much information about the all star game. I didn't know how the MVP was decided until someone's response, and there wasn't anything (except for the wrap-up piece Todd did) on the PIHA site about it. Just not lot's of information there.

So, correct me if I am wrong but don't do it like a 14-year old, you only make yourself look bad.


Stephen White
Richmond Robins #66

[SPORTSPLEXJEFF]

Wow, someone gives their opinion on what happened at the all-star game, and everyone jumps down his throat. Someone calls him a 'whining bitch', tells him to suck it up, etc.. Isn't that the type of thing Robins #2 should be saying, since everyone thinks he is an immature kid?

Yeah, maybe he could said some of it a little differently, but allow him to point out what he thinks are some issues with the event and then you can correct him where he is wrong. If he didn't have all the info about how the MVP was picked, then tell him in an adult fashion.

I wasn't at the event, but the league didn't give out much information about the all star game. I didn't know how the MVP was decided until someone's response, and there wasn't anything (except for the wrap-up piece Todd did) on the PIHA site about it. Just not lot's of information there.

So, correct me if I am wrong but don't do it like a 14-year old, you only make yourself look bad.


Stephen White
Richmond Robins #66


First of all your response shows little class if any. You put a second black eye on the Robins organization. Great move pal.

Maybe if you volunteered yourself or your buddy volunteered at all it might have been done differently. I love how players come on this board and trash things that the league does. Lets get this straight it is not the league who operates these events. It is the owners of these teams. Most of us volunteer and pull money out of our pockets so little arrogant bastards like you can play in this league.

Last time I checked I know personally that Todd like me puts up money for his team. He volunteers to run his division for nothing but to help the league function. Then he gets grief from garbage like you instead of the thank you when he does something good. I guess Todd shouldn't have written that wrap up piece either since it didn't meet your satisfaction. I hope you can go back to Richard Kent and tell him not only did you embarass yourself but him as well.

Go crawl back under the rock you came from since your opinion isn't worth the keyboard it was typed from.

Jeff Haze
Owner Feasterville Fury (VOLUNTEER!!!!!!!!!!)

TODD WILEY FOR PRESIDENT -- Since he works so hard for nothing!!!!

[CoachClipboard]

I appreciate the support from my colleagues and the kind words as well. I should have used better discreation altogether and not have hit the submit button and I regret doing so. My response was hasty, immature and irresponsible in the name calling. I should not have resorted to that.

This is precisely why on these forums we should think before we hit submit. I had not because I took personal heart to it. It was an insult to me...without naming me directly. I apologize for any name calling to the unnamed individual
however I do not apologize for the frustration I have expressed. I too had a son playing in this all-star event and wish I could have had the time to actually get to watch him play. Unfortunately I could not. Thank God I was busy doing something or Im sure Id have been chastised for that too.

Todd Wiley

[Wingman]

I think you guys might have been a little hard on some of the richmond players... can we not insult the robins organization please? For those of you who don't know, they are a very well run organization and are very easy to deal with.

Thanks Todd for putting together an all-star game for PIHA minors, we greatly appreciated it. I can completely understand how you can get lost on your way to the rink, we had a few problems finding it last year too. It is a little strange to not have the two winning teams play each other because of jerseys, but it's not a big deal, the whole thing is supposed to be just for fun and that's how it turned out to be... great job, we'll be looking forward to it next season.

Also:

People who voice their opinions about PIHA on this message board are often outcasted as PIHA-bashers who contribute nothing to the sport of inline roller hockey when usually they're just pointing out something about PIHA that could be improved next season, please acknowledge that before you post. On that note, please take after Todd's example and help fix the problem, and not just see the problem.

Hopefully by next year some of this hard work will pay off.

-- Wesley Brown,
#24 Stephens City Generals.
(not present at all-star game)

[alex]

"I think you guys might have been a little hard on some of the richmond players..."

Understatement of the year.

[tommy]

I realize that people are putting in alot of hours with no pay to make this league work and make it so that there are opportunities (much like the Minor League All Star games). But if someone decides to voice their opinion, in a cordial manner, about what they think could have gone better, then it is not up to everyone to get on their case just for saying what they think. The people who think that this league can do no wrong are real quick to jump on anyone who mentions even a minor flaw. Just saying everyone should try to look from both sides...

[General28]

Hey Todd, all I wanted to say was thanks for putting on the event. (even though you left us halfway through the first game and almost jinxed us, lol)

Like many people have said before, WE ALL need to work together to make this league better or its going to go away. If you have something that will help grow our league, voice it, but also be prepared to present a way to make that happen. An idea is only as good if it is followed through on to completion.

[RichardGraham]

Hi Rob,

I think your message pertains to all aspects of this sport. If we're going to see it grow, we have to work together and not slam every little thing that goes wrong. On the other hand, a light does need to occasionally be shined on the powers that be, so that they don't sell us down the river. ;)

However, I think that many complaints could be resolved by simply contacting the person in question PRIVATELY before throwing stuff up on a public message board and seeing what sticks. I think that's only fair.

[Robins #2]

I was unsure of who ran the all-star event. To do that single handedly as you did Todd, you did a good job.


However, my comments i made about the all-star game were mentioned because of a few things, the year before the winning all-star teams played eachother so we were hoping for the same to happen this year, especially after hearing people bash the southeast division. I understand why people bash southeast with a couple of new teams, one of which dropped out of the league, but we wanted to show up to the all-star game and show the mason dixon that southeast can play hockey, and we did exactly that while still having a good, clean time.

You can bash me all you want, i dont care, im going to voice my opinion. But bash me, not my organization or my team owner.

Voicing my opinion about the league so we can continuously improve so that one day this league is similar to the success of the nhl...isnt that what this forum is about, or would you rather me talk about something less confrontational, something that will not help us grow in the end?

Shawn Rogowski
Richmond Robins #2

[RichardGraham]

Hi Shawn,

I looked at your original post, and I don't think it was too out of line. I think you touched a nerve, though, and Todd has already apologized for his reaction. This sport has a lot of passionate people, and sometimes misunderstandings result.

Let's move forward!

[SPORTSPLEXJEFF]

I was unsure of who ran the all-star event. To do that single handedly as you did Todd, you did a good job.


However, my comments i made about the all-star game were mentioned because of a few things, the year before the winning all-star teams played eachother so we were hoping for the same to happen this year, especially after hearing people bash the southeast division. I understand why people bash southeast with a couple of new teams, one of which dropped out of the league, but we wanted to show up to the all-star game and show the mason dixon that southeast can play hockey, and we did exactly that while still having a good, clean time.

You can bash me all you want, i dont care, im going to voice my opinion. But bash me, not my organization or my team owner.

Voicing my opinion about the league so we can continuously improve so that one day this league is similar to the success of the nhl...isnt that what this forum is about, or would you rather me talk about something less confrontational, something that will not help us grow in the end?

Shawn Rogowski
Richmond Robins #2

Shawn,

First of all sorry for jumping at you and your boy. When I felt you were attacking Todd I jumped to defend him because I know he puts his heart and soul into this league.

Regarding last years crossover minor league all star games in our divisions. The winners happened to play each other by pure scheduling luck.

The games were set for us to each crossover once and then play ourselves. It just happened to be our division won both all star games.

Sorry for jumping on you.

[CoachClipboard]

ok.....group hug :eek:

[Doug Jones]

No offense to all parties, but this is why I have always been against all star games...no matter how hard one person works, somehow, someway, someone ends up with an opinion, dissatisfied and or upset. Todd puts together an event for everyone and steps up to handle the deal.

I'd get upset too, just for clarification.

We weren't able to participate because of another committment set up months in advance, but I gave kudos to Todd for setting the game up and allowing an outlet for the teams to play.

If it were up to me, there wouldn't be an allstar game. There needs to be a 40 and over skills competition. There also needs to be an allstar game for the guys who wear cages with their parrots inside who keep chirping at PIHA games :)

and by the way, I am still upset with the Richmond Robins for calling us a bunch of "old guys"...:D,
gotta go take my geritol

[zgoalscorer]

Hey does anyone know if any 495ers made it?

[GoRangrHky]

Four of the 495ers made it to the game that was held a few weeks ago. Chris Rosso, John McLaughlin, Matt Montag, and A.J. Frey all made it. Montag was unable to play because of an injury he suffered the night before. Rosso ended up winning the MVP award for the game.

[-venom-]

Do they still give out a Trophy 'globe' full of cash to the MVP?

;)

[Vengeance]

This is just a sad, sad thread. I've been watching this forum for a long time but after reading this I'm finally going to speak up.

I can appreciate the concept of a "Professional" (I'm not going to use a ton of quotes like ACCCCCCCT2 or however many C's are in his name) inline league. The nationalization of this league took hard work and is impressive in it's own right. However, guys this thread is the epitome of what I'm going to try to say here: We are mixing 16 year old talent with adult wisdom in this league. While the younger kids are looking to impress and fill their heads with the notion that they are the least bit "professional," the older, wiser hockey enthusiasts are stuck with the personal donations out of their own wallets and believe that their work speaks for itself. It does not. In Wiley's case, he counter attacked immaturity with unappreciated charity - something that he obviously bottled until he saw Rogowski's post. I sympathize with Mr. Wiley, he's done a tremendous amount of work. I also sympathize with Rogowski, whom I do know. College kid. Minimal priorities. He has all the time in the world to point out problems. When I was in his shoes years back, I'd be bitching about who gets named MVP because of point totals too. There would, quite honestly, be nothing more important to me at that moment.

The older guys want a lot of things out of this league. They want to show that their talents warrant play outside of youth travel hockey - you can't stay under 18 years old forever. They want to lead by example and find the time to make the finances of such a league work - something that will ALWAYS go unnoticed. Do you think time and money are really on the minds of the younger kids in the Minors? They are here for the competition and the trophies and the prizes and the bragging rights. They are here to play, not manage. Read Rogowski's messages carefully - a dream about PIHA being similar to the NHL, discussions about how he has to stick up for a weak Southeast division, having something to prove, and also an opinion about what the forum should be used for. He's full of aspirations and hope, not to mention talented.

Let's face it. Everyones loans and time into this league are comparable to lending a friend a couple of hundred bucks for whatever reason. When you never see the day that this friend pays you back, you'll get pissed off when you see him living like he's debt-free. This is probably a bad analogy, heck this message is probably just loose overall. But, I ask you men of the organization: What do these kids owe you exactly?

There are many people to thank who can give a little extra money or time into building this space shuttle, but this forum is building the idea that EVERY ONE is an engineer.

I can't imagine the responses I will get because there really is no reason you shouldn't try to come up with witty comebacks for the guy that just HAD to make his first posting a controversial one.