SECRHL -Feb 16-17

[NYR1199]

Any matchups or predictions you guys looking forward to?

*JMU choked last weekend, which means with a win from UF they win the division and get the auto-bid to nationals.

[BLINGBLING]

Secrhl will have good matchups in D1 with everybody playing each with Broward included.
After how NC St, JMU played this last weekend it could open the door wide for UCF, USF, FIU,FSU for nationals with UF as a lock. I personally believe 4 of these teams will be appearing at nationals this year a lot riding on the next 2 weekends.

[Army Defense]

while this is probably going to start some sort or long chain about which league is stronger, i have a few points why i would be surprised to see four teams come out of the south east

1) JMU is most likely finishing 2nd or 3rd in the league and lost to both Army and Towson, teams that will be finishing between 5th and 7th in the ECRHA

2)even if the south is a stronger conference as many claim, JMU beat FSU 7-2 in one game and lost 7-4 in another, which lead to the logical conclusion that they would have faired the same against the ecrha teams.

3) they also beat south florida 11-4, who is tied with FIU and CF at .500

4) VTech lost several close games all season to the southern teams but lost to Towson 8-1 and allowed Army their first shut-out in school history.

again, i'm not trying to spark a contest over which is the better league, but to say 4 teams will come from the southeast seems like a stretch to me

[bakerg81]

Army Defense,

Agreed. There's a big difference between "choking" and getting beat 10-1 vs the 5th place team from another region.

[RustyPipes27]

Not to offend anywhere here, but I'm going to have to agree with these guys. We rolled over the three teams we played this past weekend down south, winning by a combined score of 27-2. I understand that the southern teams of the SECRHL are likely better than the northern teams, but I don't know how anyone could justify taking four teams from that region.

[CUDangled]

Few facts to point out...

V-Tech finished in last place in the SE, so a victory over this team cannot be related to a victory over a SE team in general.

JMU is not going to regionals, so you can take them out of the equation.

[NYR1199]

5 of the 7 D1 teams invited to regionals are from the Southern Conference.

[someaction]

The SECRHL is awful. 4 teams in D1 at nationals, are you kidding me?!

My boys Towson just went down there and destroyed every team they played. I'd give 2 bids to the SECRHL: Florida and one other.

Breakdown should be as follows:
ECRHA - 4
SECRHL - 2
GPCRHL - 3
MCRHL - 4/5
WCRHL - 3
RMCRHL - 2
SCHL - 1 (if they even still exist?)

[NYR1199]

The SECRHL is awful. 4 teams in D1 at nationals, are you kidding me?!

My boys Towson just went down there and destroyed every team they played. I'd give 2 bids to the SECRHL: Florida and one other.

Breakdown should be as follows:
ECRHA - 4
SECRHL - 2
GPCRHL - 3
MCRHL - 4/5
WCRHL - 3
RMCRHL - 2
SCHL - 1 (if they even still exist?)

Again, your boys from Towson did NOT play anyone from the Southern conference! All 5 teams from the southern conference: UF, FSU, FIU, USF, and UCF all deserve and will be eligible for a bid. Excluding UF, all the teams are .500, why? Because they all beat up on eachother.

Army and FIU played twice in exhibition, and they both won games by 1 goal. Now if Army played UF, I would have to say it would be a little more lopsided towards UF. When Army played the nothern conference this weekend it was lopsided for them.

[William Bourque]

Again, your boys from Towson did NOT play anyone from the Southern conference! All 5 teams from the southern conference: UF, FSU, FIU, USF, and UCF all deserve and will be eligible for a bid. Excluding UF, all the teams are .500, why? Because they all beat up on eachother.

Army and FIU played twice in exhibition, and they both won games by 1 goal. Now if Army played UF, I would have to say it would be a little more lopsided towards UF. When Army played the nothern conference this weekend it was lopsided for them.


So using your logic...

Army > FIU

UF > FIU > Army > Northern Conference.

Since you say that FIU, UCF, FSU and USF are all equal cause they beat each other up...

So that would mean that

FIU, UCF, FSU and USF are = Army


Well, standings wise...

Rhode Island, Buffalo, Stony Brook, Towson, Penn State and Rutgers are all better than Army and there is zero chance that the ECRHA gets 6 bids in DI.

Make sense?

[Army Defense]

Army played FIU with a different roster due to ineligibilites at school and other players who were in Germany last semester.

Also, it was a concrete, outdoor rink, so the puck moved slower and rolled randomly, making it a much different game. Anyone from all 4 schools would agree.

I would agree with the breakdown of NYR1199 except I feel the 5th out of the ECRHA is more likely than MCRHL.

And also using your logic, Army is above .500, and you know why? because 4 losses come from StonyBrook and Rutgers. So Army deserves to get a bid.

Just because you are in a "tough conference" doesn't make you deserving of a nationals bid. If you win in the regular season, you go to nationals to prove which conference is the best and take the title back home. Yes, while I feel that Army could finish top 4 if somehow we were the only team from the ECRHA to go to nationals (even though we are the 7 seed), the fact of the matter is that we have already shown that StonyBrook and Rutgers are stronger teams than us and are more likely to end up in the championship game. In the SECRHL, by JMU losing to us and Towson in the regular season as the top team in the northern conference, they showed they are less likely to advance at nationals than SBU and Rutgers. While UF may be better than Army, FSU is essentially equal to JMU based on their head-to-head. So, It is unlikely to see more than 2 teams from the league at nationals, let alone 4.

[IllSnipeYouAll]

well from what i understand at winternats the fiu team that was there was practically the B team with a few A players and army stll needed OT to win. and thats from a reliable source. so in my opinion army is clearly below all the SE teams mentioned

[Army Defense]

well from what i understand at winternats the fiu team that was there was practically the B team with a few A players and army stll needed OT to win. and thats from a reliable source. so in my opinion army is clearly below all the SE teams mentioned

If Army > JMU = FSU > trio, I'm not sure I follow your logic

Army and FIU both had different rosters in their exhibition games

[William Bourque]

If Army > JMU = FSU > trio, I'm not sure I follow your logic

Army and FIU both had different rosters in their exhibition games


Florida State has yet to beat Florida, Florida International or Central Florida.

They have yet to play South Florida.

[CUDangled]

Florida State has yet to beat Florida, Florida International or Central Florida.

They have yet to play South Florida.

Florida only beat FSU by one goal (5-4 ?) Hardly a "sound defeat" and I don't think anyone would argue that UF is the best team in the SE. So...that speaks volumes for the parity in the league. You also have several 1-1 head-to-head records over the course of this season between the DI teams. Should make for a great couple of weeks of hockey, including regionals.

USF vs FSU should be a good matchup this weekend (since they haven't played each other yet). Hopefully both teams will have their "full roster" so it will be a true indication on where the two teams rank.

I still don't know why BCC is playing the DI schools this close to the end of the season, when they (BCC) already has a bid (they are the only DIII school) and the DI rankings could really be sorted out if they had all four games against each other in Beachton. BCC is a great team...not suggesting they aren't "up to the DI level", just saying that the rankings could be more sorted out by more DI-DI match ups.

I BIG unknown in the SE division is the officiating. Wow...talk about inconsistant. Game-to-game, period-to-period, north conference to south conference. All I can say is wow.

Not saying the officiating TALENT is better/worse in the north, but the game management is far superior.

[CUDangled]

One more thing...

Anyone know what happened to JMU this spring? They aren't going to regionals, but they would have gotten a big? There record seemed to trail off too. They only had three wins in the spring (USF, NC State and North Carolina). Certainly not in line with their fall record. And North Carolina only gets about 6 guys to show up to their games. They are a great group of guys, so I wish them the best next season...must be tough to play a short bench like that every week.

Unfortunately, this also takes away a lot of the credibility of the losses to Army and Towson...sure they lost, but they weren't exactly winning their other games either. So how much of a region-to-region strength indicator are these losses?

[Army Defense]

One more thing...

Anyone know what happened to JMU this spring? They aren't going to regionals, but they would have gotten a big? There record seemed to trail off too. They only had three wins in the spring (USF, NC State and North Carolina). Certainly not in line with their fall record. And North Carolina only gets about 6 guys to show up to their games. They are a great group of guys, so I wish them the best next season...must be tough to play a short bench like that every week.

Unfortunately, this also takes away a lot of the credibility of the losses to Army and Towson...sure they lost, but they weren't exactly winning their other games either. So how much of a region-to-region strength indicator are these losses?

JMU ScheduleDateTimeLocationTypeOpponentResultStatusOc t 132:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat Virginia Tech (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52301)Won 6-3Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=70906)Oct 135:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)RegGeorgia Tech (DII) (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52302)Won 14-1Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=70996)Oct 138:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat South Carolina (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52298)Won 9-6Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=70910)Oct 149:00AMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat Western Carolina (DII) (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52306)Won 4-3Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=70915)Oct 273:00PMMorrisville, NC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=62)Regat North Carolina State (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52304)Lost 6-9Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=71451)Oct 276:00PMMorrisville, NC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=62)RegElon (DII) (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52294)Won 8-7Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=71454)Oct 288:00AMMorrisville, NC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=62)Regat Virginia Tech (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52301)Won 5-3Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=71456)Oct 281:00PMMorrisville, NC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=62)Regat Virginia Tech B(AFF) (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52347)Won 10-3Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=71463)Dec 13:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat Florida State (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52207)Won 7-2Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=72585)Dec 18:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)RegVirginia Tech (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52301)Won 9-6Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=72590)Dec 27:00AMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat North Carolina State (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52304)Tied 7-7Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=72594)Dec 212:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)RegSouth Carolina (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52298)Tied 4-4Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=72599)Jan 263:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)RegSouth Florida (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52211)Won 11-4Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73501)Jan 267:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat South Carolina (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52298)Lost 5-8Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73505)Jan 279:00AMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)RegNorth Carolina State (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52304)Won 8-5Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73512)Jan 271:00PMColumbia, SC (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=116)Regat Florida State (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52207)Lost 4-7Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73516)Feb 911:00AMWinchester, VA (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=151)Regat Towson (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52180)Lost 1-10Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73960)Feb 98:00PMWinchester, VA (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=151)RegArmy (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52189)Lost 4-6Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73970)Feb 1010:00AMWinchester, VA (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=151)Regat Virginia Tech (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52301)Lost 6-7Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73977)Feb 101:00PMWinchester, VA (http://ecrha.net/facility.php?facility_id=151)Regat North Carolina (DII) (http://ecrha.net/team.php?team_id=52307)Won 11-5Box Score (http://ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=73980)

as you can see 3-5 in the spring with two losses comming from Towson and Army.
They are 1-1 FSU, VTech, and 1-1-1 with NC State to accout for the other spring losses. Both NC games were decided by 3, but the two VTech games were close. They also played 4 non-DI schools in the first half to account for the inflated record. So did they really trail off or did the puck just stop bouncing their way?

[hockeydude92]

how is JMU not in regionals when they are first in the conference? does this mean they will not go to nationals even though there in first?
how many teams get automatic bids to nats?

[NYR1199]

how is JMU not in regionals when they are first in the conference? does this mean they will not go to nationals even though there in first?
how many teams get automatic bids to nats?

The winner of the division gets an autobid to nationals, which will be UF. The winner of regionals will also get an autobid. The rest are at-large bids.

JMU is in 1st in the "northern" conference, they will not be in 1st in the secrhl.

[hockeydude92]

but is jmu knocked out of regionals and nationals?

[William Bourque]

The winner of the division gets an autobid to nationals, which will be UF. The winner of regionals will also get an autobid. The rest are at-large bids.

JMU is in 1st in the "northern" conference, they will not be in 1st in the secrhl.



There is only one auto-bid per region for nationals. Please get your facts straight.

[NYR1199]

OK, let me re-phrase. The winner of the division gets an auto-bid. The winner of regionals will 99% get an at-large bid-according to Bourque.

[William Bourque]

OK, let me re-phrase. The winner of the division gets an auto-bid. The winner of regionals will 99% get an at-large bid-according to Bourque.

Okay, what if the winner of the division is the winner at regionals? All i was saying is that each region is only guaranteed one team. How the region give out that bid is up to them. The SCHL has been a one bid region before and so has the SECRHL. To assume your going to national with any kind of credentials is not a given unless you get the auto-bid. Just saying.

[hockeydude92]

are there any PHOTOGRAPHERS for the SECRHL??? if so let me know the website!!!

[NYR1199]

are there any PHOTOGRAPHERS for the SECRHL??? if so let me know the website!!!

Sorry bud, the secrhl doesnt have any photographers. You are better off trying to contact individual players and see if they have any pictures.

[SnakeHandler]

just wanted to say, sometimes even the schl gets more bids than it deserves :(