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12-12-2007, 08:04 PM
Welcome To The 1st Ever PIHA BS Rankings. Let me start by saying two things: 1. No personal opinion is used in the making of these rankings. 2. Since this ranking system is base on a mathematical formula if you have not played a game yet you are not on the rankings.
Here is the basic formula. For ever win, overtime loss and goal scored you are assigned positive points, and for losses and goals against you receive negative points.
The difficult thing about ranking PIHA (and college, www.ncrha.org (http://www.ncrha.org/)) is teams play an uneven schedule. Basically, not ever team plays ever week. There are teams who have played 6 games in the first two weekends and teams who have only played two. How do you compare these two teams based on stats alone? I have built a comparison factor into the formula that levels the playing field. It calculates rankings based on the most game played in the league. The BS Rankings reflect everyone having played the same number of games.
I will be calculating new BS Rankings ever week and posting them on www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com/) ever Wednesday. I do use all stats posted on www.thepiha.com (http://www.thepiha.com/) as of Monday night.
Once again the BS Rankings are purely mathematical and have no personal opinion is injected into them. If you have not played yet you will not be in the BS Rankings. Good luck to all teams this year and I will see you on the floor. Questions and comments are welcome.
12-12-2007, 08:10 PM
Sounds like a legitimate way of concocting a top rankings list. We will just have to wait a few months into the season before that formula can really kick in and give a good idea on who the best are. Although strength of schedule may cause a problem in getting an accurate rating.
12-13-2007, 10:22 AM
After looking at the rankings, i believe strength of schedule really wont make too much of difference, based on the fact that HockeyRefGuy is using other factors that really do matter; such as wins, losses, goals for and goals against.
I think this will be a great tool to use in place of the normal IHC Piha top 25 lists that come out week in and week out.
thats my opinion
12-13-2007, 10:44 AM
Strength of schedule is not a factor I use in any of my pro league rankings.
12-13-2007, 10:57 AM
I know, i was trying to back you up;)
12-14-2007, 09:45 AM
I did a ranking last year and it took into effect the fact that teams played an uneven schedule. Meaning that one team might have played 6 games and another 2 games. I plan to do it again, but not until everyone plays atleast one set of games. My formula was pretty complex, but i had to admit that it was pretty much right on.
I believe it took into account wins vs losses, and then margin of victory vs average margin of victory around the league. Then the same for margin of losses, ect...
12-19-2007, 04:16 PM
Week 2 of the PIHA BS Rankings are now posted on www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com) Happy Holidays to everyone!
12-20-2007, 11:39 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to do win and loss average, and goals against and goals for average?
12-27-2007, 03:22 PM
Week 3 of the PIHA BS Rankings are now posted at www.YouSuckRef.com (http://www.YouSuckRef.com)
YouSuckRef.com's staff would like to thank you for all your support this year and we hope everyone has a happy and healthy New Year!
12-27-2007, 10:01 PM
I see you got the minors up there too. ;)
01-02-2008, 05:08 PM
Good evening everyone,
I hope you all had a great holiday break. Week 4 of the PIHA BS rankings available on www.YouSuckRef.com
01-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Week 5 of the PIHA BS rankings are now available on www.YouSuckRef.com (http://www.yousuckref.com/)
01-09-2008, 05:49 PM
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01-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Week 6 of the PIHA BS Rankings are now available on www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com)
01-17-2008, 09:53 AM
Hello Brian. Great site by the way. Quick question, our, CT Blaze, loss is in the wrong column. It is recorded as a loss, but actually it's an overtime loss, does that matter in your standings? Just checking. It's fun to see how you rank everyone.
01-18-2008, 05:27 PM
I update my rankings based on the standings that are on the PIHA website. If you have a game in the lose column that should be in the overtime lose column it will effect your rankings. You lose points for a loss and you gain point for an over time tie. If you correct record is 5-0-1 that would move you to second on the rankings with a score of 4.4583. As long as I can remember the correction or you can have it changed on the PIHA website this change will show in the next rankings on 1/23/08. If you have any questions just let me know. Thank you for visiting the site.
01-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Week 7 of the PIHA BS Rankings are now available on www.yousuckref.com.
01-24-2008, 06:41 PM
Week 7 of the PIHA BS Rankings are now available on www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com).
They still let you post on here? I thought there was a requirement that you have a measurable IQ in order to post. Guess you prove that logic incorrect...:eek:
01-24-2008, 08:11 PM
That certainly never stopped Dave Alvarez...
(Sorry, Dave. Couldn't resist. LOL. Hey, since I'm talking to you here, do you want that IHC jersey or not?!)
01-30-2008, 02:00 PM
With the Midwest Tornados losing their first game of the season do we have a new number #1? Week 8 PIHA BS Rankings are now available on www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com)
02-07-2008, 10:26 AM
The Midwest Tornados had a great weekend. The Tornadoes went 4-0 and had 26 goals for and only 8 against. Was it enough to regain the top spot? Week 9 PIHA BS Rankings now available on www.YouSuckRef.com (http://www.YouSuckRef.com)
02-14-2008, 12:43 PM
Welcome to Edition 1 Issue 2 of BS Ranking Notes: 2/11/08
With the addition of Teemu Salenne the Anaheim Ducks have made their way into the top ten of the NHL BS Rankings. With a record of 5-0 in their last five games how high were the Ducks able to climb? Another big mover this week was the Pittsburg Penguins moving up 8 spots to #4 on the NHL BS Rankings. With quality wins over the Islanders and Flyers this week the Pens look to play a major role in determining who makes the playoffs from the crowded Atlantic division.
As Detroit’s 8 game winning streak rolls on how high will the Pistons climb this week? Here is a hint; it is as close to the top spot without being #1. The trade of Shaq from Miami to Phoenix was landed Miami in the basement of this week’s NBA BS Rankings. The question that needs to be answered is will Shaq bring a championship to Phoenix as he says.
The Harrisburg Lunatics hit a bump in the road this weekend losing to the Potomac Mavericks. Did this lose cost them the number one spot in the PIHA Pro BS Rankings? Is so who will be the new number one? Will it be the Great Plains division leader Midwest Tornados or the powerful Colorado Springs Thunder? The big mover this week was a team who was able to end their losing streak. The Chicago Untouchables after losing 9 straight to start the season swept the Cobras this weekend in four games, outscoring the Cobras 22-3 the strong roster of the Untouchables is starting to show its true potential. The Untouchables face a stiff challenge, the Midwest Tornados.
The Lowry Landslide, led by Stephen Craig, Jake Rosa and Alex Payne, continues to plow over its opponents with its 12 game win streak. The Landslide regains the top spot in this week’s PIHA Minor BS Rankings. Close behind them are the new SW division El Paso Black Diamonds. With a 10 game winning streak of their own Zach Blake and company look to push toward a national championship. The big mover this week followed the lead of their pro team and won 3 of 4 this weekend. Moving up 7 spots the Chicago Untouchables are slowly making their way up the PIHA Minor BS Rankings
University of Missouri – St. Louis made a strong move up the DI BS Rankings winning their last 7 in a row. Making their assault on the top 5, PJ Tallo and the goaltending duo of James Cash and Thomas Ames, need to continue their winning ways to stay in the top five. Three teams with strong weekends moving up eight spots. Where did Army, UC Davis and University of Texas – Arlington land on this week rankings?
With a firm grasp of the top spot Neumann looks poised to finish the season with a second national championship. The top five has a new resident. Moving up 2 spots this week the undefeated Missouri State is playing extremely well. The big mover this week was SIU – Carbondale moving up 6 spots to be in the DII BS Ranking’s top 15.
The University of Buffalo B team has played well all year long. Led by junior (and team funny man) Jeff Elias the undefeated U of B’s B team knows they have what it takes to compete for a national championship but was is all that enough for this week’s top spot in the B BS Rankings?
For all the answers tune to www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com/)
02-14-2008, 02:31 PM
Thanks Brian. I was hoping the new poll would be out today. It's been fun watching the position changes. Keep up the great work!
02-14-2008, 05:33 PM
The Lowry Landslide, led by Stephen Craig, Jake Rosa and Alex Payne, continues to plow over its opponents with its 12 game win streak. The Landslide regains the top spot in this week’s PIHA Minor BS Rankings.
You bet, GO LANDSLIDE!!!
02-15-2008, 09:01 AM
I really like the rankings each week. I am just wondering how the Fireants split with the swamp rats and went down a spot while the rats went up 3 spots?! how does a team ranked 21 split with one ranked 36 and move up while the other team moves down?
not sure how that worked, there are more factors involved I guess.
in any case, keep it coming, I check these every week!
02-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Its a great question and I agree it doesn't make any sense. Wait what did he say? I can tell you though in my formula it doesn't count for who you beat but just that you beat them. Goal scored and and goals against also play a major part of the equation. It also has alot to do with what the other teams around you do in the rankings. Also the stats need to be reported correctly on thepiha.com. I'm not saying that in this case they weren't. I update my rankings based on thos standings. Its a tough situation to create a forumla for all these scenarios and still have a life and a real job. LOL. Thank you for the the visits to the site and the comment. Have a great day.
02-20-2008, 08:05 PM
Welcome to Volume 1 Issue 3: 2/19/08
The Islanders and their 4 game winning streak, including wins over Philadelphia, Atlanta and San Jose are this week’s NHL BS Rankings biggest mover. Moving up 6 rungs on the ladder where did the Islanders end up?
PIHA – Pro:
Moving up 7 spots this week in the PIHA – Pro BS Rankings are the Hartford Fire Ants. Winning 2 of their last 3 games by one goal the Fire Ants will need to continue to win close games to build momentum for next season. Another club making a strong move this weekend was the Richmond Robins. Winning 6 of their last 8 games including a 4 game winning streak the Robins need to carry this positive energy into the extremely busy end of their season.
PIHA – Minor:
The Rocky Mountain division in PIHA – Minor is a division full of talent. The Loveland Catz took advantage of their weekend by winning 4-3 and 4-1 over the Front Rage Thunder. How far did these victories help the Catz move up the rankings?
The Miners of Missouri – Rolla are gaining momentum at the right time of the season. Winning all three of their games this weekend the Miners have moved up 8 spots. The Missouri – Columbia Tigers have broken back into the top 20 this weekend winning all 3 games outscoring their opponents 20-2. The Tigers look strong moving into the post season. After starting the season 12-0 the ECRHA power house Stony Brook Seawolves have struggled in their last weekends going 2-2-1. Dropping two spots this week will the Seawolves be able to right their ship for the post season push?
In the bottom of the rankings, 3 teams with a combined record of 8-3 this weekend the Miami Hurricanes, Michigan Tech Huskies and Sonoma State Seawolves were all able to move up 5 spots in this week’s rankings. Breaking into the top 5 this week is the Southwest region power house Sam Houston State Bearkats, with a record of 17-3-0 and out scoring the their opponents this weekend 37-3, the Bearkats are certainly ready for the post season.
Finishing the last 10 games of the season strong the Suffolk County Lighthouses (8-2-0) were able to move up the DIII BS Rankings this week. Has the Lighthouses’ return to their national powerhouse form?
The Buckeyes from Ohio State had a strong weekend winning all 4 games. Moving into the top 20 in the BS B Rankings and to 4th place in the MCRHL. Will they be able to be a factor this post season?
Tune into www.yousuckref.com for the latest BS Rankings
02-22-2008, 08:20 AM
New Feature from YouSuckref.com
YouSuckRef.com will be focusing on news and editorials on college and pro roller hockey. Over the next couplf of month I will be interviewing major figures in the roller hockey industry and giving recaps on games and events. Please join me at the new news page on www.yousuckref.com for my first OPED piece on PIHA.
02-26-2008, 02:48 PM
Welcome to Volume 1 Issue 4: 2/26/08
Look out below! Here come the Flyers! Losing 7 spots this week the disappointing Flyers now have to give away gifted young players to have a chance at just the playoffs this year. Can someone teach the Flyers how to stop hitting their head on stuff? As a Flyers fan is was nice to see our 52 million dollar investment finally come through in a shoot out! Maybe he’ll do it again next season too.
PIHA – Pro:
Taking advantage of their 2-0 weekend and winning 4 out of their last 5 the Tucson Desperados are working out of the PIHA basement. Lead by Defenseman Eric Bogenrief can they stay out of the box long enough to make a playoff push?
PIHA – Minor:
A once top 25 team the Sacramento Saxons had a big move this past weekend. Unfortunately it was in the wrong direction. After only winning 3 of their last 15 where did the Saxons end up on this week’s BS PIHA Minor Rankings?
With most of the teams having completed their regular season there was little movement in this week’s rankings. In DI Stony Brook was able to gain one position back to finish the regular season at #4. With 4 teams in the BS DI top ten the ECRHA region finals should have some great games. Stay tuned to YouSuckRef.com News page for league and team coverage of the ECRHA Regional Championships. In DII, the Maine Black Bears were able to climb their way to a ranking of #8 after a 3-0-1 weekend and 9-0-2 to end their season with the Black Bears be the wrecking ball in the ECRHA DII regions? Can they beat West Chester or Neumann to win the regional championship? Never count out a hard working team from the North East.
Good luck to all region teams this weekend!
Look for the interview of Richard Graham, owner of inlinehockeycentral.com, under our new News tab.
03-06-2008, 11:42 AM
Welcome to Volume 1 Issue 5 3/6/08
NHL BS Rankings:
After a 5 game losing streak the San Jose Sharks have reeled off 7 straight wins. Hunting down the Dallas Stars for first place in the Pacific division the Sharks have moved into 4th place overall in the Western Conference. Climbing 5 spots this week where did the Sharks land inside the Top 5 of the NHL BS Rankings? Once #1 rank Ottawa Senators continue to struggle in the final month of the season. Losing five of their last six games the Senators goaltending needs to man up to regain the top spot in the East.
NBA BS Rankings:
Speaking of manning up the Philadelphia Sixers have become a dangerous team over the last several weeks. With a record of 15-5 in the month of February the Sixers have made their way into the playoff picture. Climbing two spots the Sixers finished just outside of the NBA BS Rankings Top 15. No team has had a better February than the Houston Rockets. With their 16th win in a row the Rockets have secured a playoff spot in the West. The next ten games for the Rockets will be a test with 6 of those games against opponents with plus.500 records. Where did the Rckets end on this week’s NBA BS Rankings.
PIHA – Pro:
Don’t look now but here come last year’s defending champions. Climbing 7 spots the Boston Swamp Rats have who 5 of their last 6 games. Their next six games (against the Gladiators, Growl and Blaze) will be a huge test for the Rats. Can the leadership of Mike Hunt and Tony King lead the Swamp Rats back to a national championship? With a lengthy layoff of a month and a half the Marple Gladiators have entered the second half of the PIHA season cold, losing 3 of their first 4. If defense wins championships the Gladiators will quickly need to improve theirs just to make the playoffs.
PIHA – Minor:
The west Park Prowlers are quickly moving up the BS PIHA – Minor Rankings thanks in part to a 6 game winning streak. Lead on offense by Brad Conover and JT Bovee the Prowlers will need to work hard to make the playoffs in an extremely tough Rocky Mountain division.
03-20-2008, 11:44 AM
Welcome to Volume 1 Issue 6: 3/18/08
As the playoff push continues in the East Conference and the 8th spot is up for grabs. With the Flyers currently holding the final spot, the Washington Capitals are two points behind. With both teams struggle to gain any ground for the playoffs. 8-2-0 in their last 10 games the Hurricanes continue to dominate the weakest division in all of hockey. Still struggling for respect in the NHL, even after winning a Stanley Cup, the team from Carolina will have to prove their young leaders can carry them deep into the playoffs.
In the West, the Dallas Stars finding themselves struggling at the wrong time of the season. With the addition of points machine Brad Richards from Tampa Bay the Stars have lost 5 of their last 6. With games against the Ducks and Sharks before the end of the season the Stars to find themselves before their great regular season record turns into a first round playoff exit.
22 wins in a row have the Houston Rockets atop the Western Conference and in the top five of the NBA BS Rankings. Led by Tracy McGrady and former AND1 Mix Tape Star Rafer Alston the Rockets have only lost 5 games this calendar year. Will the lose of Yao Ming prove deadly against the other powerhouses of the Western Conference?
The Western Conference has one of the best playoff pushes in recent sports history. With only 2.5 games separating the top 7 teams no position in the standings is safe. A small streak, positive or negative, could mean the difference between playing basketball or playing golf in April. Losers of 4 straight the defending champions Spurs have no time to rest the aging stars for the playoffs run. If the Spurs are able to win their first playoff series I can’t see them making it out of the second round.
PIHA – Pro
At 13-11-0 on the season the Chicago Untouchables have been that lately, untouchable. In one of the toughest division in PIHA the Untouchables have only lost 3 games in their last 20. Led by Peter Messina and Dan Costanza the Untouchables will be a force that will have to be dealt with in the Western Conference playoffs. My prediction is the Untouchables will reach the Conference semi-finals. How high was the team from Chicago able to climb in this week’s PIHA – Pro BS Rankings? A hint: They are not to far out of the top 10.
Winning all four of their games this past weekend the Westminster Blizzard outscored the Fire and Prowlers 21-7. Matt Olson leads the Blizzard into the playoffs and into the top 10 of this week’s BS Rankings.
Losing 6 of their last 10 the talented roster of the 495ers need to find their grove against this week’s opponent, the Revolution. The end of their regular season is filled with tough opponents. Will the first year team from the island be able to follow their leadership into the playoffs or will they sink out of the second season?
PIHA – Minor
Following the lead of their pro team the Chicago Untouchable Minor team, led by Chris Ancona and Nick Winkler, winning 9 out of their last 10 games and have the Southside Snipers in their sights. With the 4th most points (35) in the Western Conference the Untouchables will be in the finals.
Moving up 4 spots this week in the PIHA – Minor BS Rankings, the Feasterville Fury and their 7 game winning streak are threatening the leaders of the Atlantic Division. In the toughest division in all of PIHA – Minor Captain Jeff Moore and his 4 game winning goals will need to continue their winning ways. Playing the Grizzlies this week the division's top spot is in reach.
Check out www.yousuckref.com for the latest rankings. Also MLB BS Rankings will start April 10th.
03-20-2008, 05:03 PM
The Rankings are out of order, they go smoth until 9 then it skips to 12 and 13 and then to 10.
03-20-2008, 09:52 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I'll have it fixed Monday. Have a great extended weekend everyone!
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