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William Bourque
11-13-2007, 06:04 PM
With the first semester almost wrapped up, i was wondering what everyone thinks are the top 5 teams in DI/DIII, DII and B are.

hockeyfan1984
11-13-2007, 09:00 PM
League:
These are in no particular order just my top five in each divison

DI:

Stonybrook
Lindenwood
Colorado State
NC State
UC Irvine

DII:

Univ of Louis - Lafayette
Neuman
West Chester
Sam Houston State
Washington (St. Louis)

DIII:

Broward CC
Nassau
St. Charles CC
Arapahoe CC
St. Louis CC - Meramec

B:

Central Florida
Lindenwood Gold
Eastern Michigan
Penn State
Colorado State Green


Brian
www.yousuckref.com (http://www.yousuckref.com)

dan sangiorgio
11-13-2007, 11:45 PM
a rocky mountain team in the top 5 for D1 and 2 SW teams in d2 as my good friend bruno from the ali g shows says ish don't think so

Patn Lawton
11-13-2007, 11:53 PM
It is difficult to compare and rank teams from different regions since they haven't played one another, so kudos to anyone who puts the effort in.

After this weekend I think I will have seen enough D2 ecrha to list a top 5

William Bourque
11-14-2007, 02:15 AM
please tell me this was a joke.

i don't care how good a SCHL team is in region.

i doubt any one of them could beat Neumann or West Chester in a best of 7 series.

The UT Dallas teams of past were dominant in the SCHL and didn't really excel, although they did do above average.

Additionally, saying Lindenwood is anything but #1 is just stupid at this point. They have won like 110 straight games, not unbeaten but won. You can't take that #1 away from them until they lose. They prob are 199-1 in their last 200 games.

Lets be real here and try and eliminate any kind of bias.

HockeyRefGuy
11-14-2007, 08:47 AM
Bill -

You asked an opinion question, I gave my answer and you make fun of it? That seems very odd. Where is your answer to your own question? And I said in my last post that the teams were not in any particular order, they are just my top 5. That means, for those of us who can't read and comprehend the English language, I may not think Stonybrook is better than Lindenwood. I know about the winning streak and the tradition of Lindenwood hockey. Just to put this out there didn't Neuman have a long winning streak at one point? I know it wasn't as long as Lindenwood's but it was several seasons.

Drexel63
11-14-2007, 09:48 AM
Speaking of reading comprehension there Bri,

didn't the thread topic say "ECRHA Chat" ??

That being said, I haven't seen enough hockey to put up an opinion I can defend yet, and our first half ends this weekend.... that's sad...

DGlass
11-14-2007, 09:48 AM
Bill, Brian didn't list them in order. Re-read his post, then wash the pink out of your eye.

Drexel63
11-14-2007, 10:13 AM
wash the pink out of my eye? I'm confused...

I know he didn't list them in order... I know how to read... My point was you would think a thread named "ECRHA Chat" would be responded to with top 5 teams from the ECRHA, not the counrty...

and if that was sarcasm, well, it's early...

BLowe7
11-14-2007, 12:13 PM
wash the pink out of my eye? I'm confused...

I know he didn't list them in order... I know how to read... My point was you would think a thread named "ECRHA Chat" would be responded to with top 5 teams from the ECRHA, not the counrty...

and if that was sarcasm, well, it's early...


agreed, bascially what I thought too

Patn Lawton
11-14-2007, 12:20 PM
One post of attempting to create a top 5's list, 6-7 posts of complaints, hurray for forums!

BLowe7
11-14-2007, 12:26 PM
Since I'm agreeing with Sherwood and think its ECRHA teams, I'll give my top 5 DII teams, since thats all I really watch..sorry everyone else

1. Neumann
2. West Chester
3. Binghampton
4. Albany
5. Shippensburg

MAmato
11-14-2007, 12:57 PM
and one meta-post complaining about the complaining

and one meta-meta-post chiding the complaining about the complaining

in order to make this post not completely devoid of content, i'll change the chat topic

who is the most annoying player you face and why

my answer is hagg, because he sits on me in the crease and won't stand still when i go to punch him and i am slow

BLowe7
11-14-2007, 01:01 PM
haha he is a d bag, trust me..i live with him

William Bourque
11-14-2007, 01:14 PM
wash the pink out of my eye? I'm confused...



He was talking to me, i have pink eye

William Bourque
11-14-2007, 01:16 PM
Bill -

You asked an opinion question, I gave my answer and you make fun of it?



Brian, you are correct. However, we did both misread each others post. I didn't notice the no particular order part, and you didn't notice how i said in the ECRHA.

BLowe7
11-14-2007, 01:17 PM
DII ECRHA.... top 3 is Neumann, West Chester, Albany.... the rest is a crap shoot between Shippensburg, Slippery Rock, Millersville, Binghamton. . Ship vs. Slip looked like an even game, MU vs. Slip looked like an even game. I'd like to see how Shippensburg and Slippery Rock handle playing Neumann and West Chester before I decide who is better between MU, Ship, Slippery Rock.

Ship lost to West Chester 4-2 in preseason, true its preseason but at least it gives you an idea

William Bourque
11-14-2007, 01:37 PM
Where is your answer to your own question?


Division I:
1- Stony Brook
2- Rhode Island
3- Buffalo
4- Towson
5- Rutgers

Division II:
1- Neumann
2- West Chester

B Division:
1- Buffalo
2- Penn State
3- Rutgers
4- Towson
5- Suffolk

William Bourque
11-14-2007, 01:39 PM
haha he is a d bag, trust me..i live with him

you don't have to live with him to understand that

BLowe7
11-14-2007, 01:53 PM
Yeah I guess that's a pretty valid point

Leaferguy
11-14-2007, 04:10 PM
Right now, Neumann's the class of ECRHA DII. West Chester is second, and after that it's a crap shoot.

DGlass
11-15-2007, 09:46 AM
Sherwood....many apologies. That was meant to Bourque. I didn't even catch your post.

But yeah, I expected a list of top-5 ECRHA teams as well.



As for the wash the pink out your eye comment, Bourque constantly has pink eye so I was making fun of him.

William Bourque
11-15-2007, 03:30 PM
Bourque constantly has pink eye so I was making fun of him.

I have only had it five times in the last four years...Although that one time at regionals was pretty bad...

BLowe7
11-15-2007, 03:35 PM
only five times in the past 4 years? I've never had it in my life

Drexel63
11-15-2007, 03:48 PM
Keeping crap particles away from your eyes is pretty hard when you are constantly kissing a**, huh Bourque?

Everytime I hear the words "pink eye" I think of the movie Knocked Up, and I laugh aloud...

MAmato
11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
With all due respect to the teams out there, I think DII ECRHA is a complete crapshoot from top to bottom with very few exceptions. I don't remember this sort of game-in, game-out parity in the majority of games from years past.

dan sangiorgio
11-19-2007, 07:36 PM
Right now, Neumann's the class of ECRHA DII. West Chester is second, and after that it's a crap shoot.

From what i have seen i would have to agree that right now it goes
1. neumann
2.west chester
3. could be anyone i haven't really seen a team that could stick out from the rest. i would say theres about 6 teams that could fit here. however the gap between the top 2 to the next 6 is much larger then it has been for the last few years.

William Bourque
11-19-2007, 08:04 PM
I agree...However, there was no finish that was more exciting than Temple's buzzer beater in their 2-1 win over Vermont.

cgustanski
11-20-2007, 11:17 AM
You didn't see Millersville vs. Maine

a minute to go, 4-4 tie, Lerch behind the Maine net for millersville all by himself, stops with the puck, Maine players watching him back there, like it's nothing at all he just out of nowhere pulls the Michigan top shelf.


then Maine pulls their goalie and ties it up with 30 seconds left.


I'd sure love to see Lerch's goal again though, somebody tell me you saw that!
I saw it because I was standing in front of the net watching him when it happened.

Stew6
11-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Emory would easily be in the top 5 if not the top three if they played in the ECRHA... :-)

But serriously, as much as I hate to admit it, ship. looks good so far acording to their results.

thefelixculpa
11-20-2007, 02:30 PM
I saw it because I was standing in front of the net watching him when it happened.

good times, good times

William Bourque
11-20-2007, 03:11 PM
But serriously, as much as I hate to admit it, ship. looks good so far acording to their results.


Shippensburg has played average to this point in the season. They haven't lost any games big, but really haven't impressed with the wins either. There hasn't been a single game this season where every player has played. Once the second semester rolls around and some players return from last year/injury, then you could have a better idea of how good they can be.

The second semester should be interesting.

Additionally, the two games Ship/Emory played in 2005-2006 were probably two of the best games i have ever played in. Each one was exciting with about 100 different momentum changes. There is no doubt that Emory could compete in the ECRHA, however, i don't know of they would be top 2...after the top 2, there are 5-6 teams who could be each other any given day.

http://www.ncrha.org/game.php?game_id=61544

http://www.ncrha.org/game.php?game_id=65907

Patn Lawton
11-20-2007, 06:56 PM
Ship, Slippery Rock, Maine, Temple, Vermont, Albany, Millersville, Drexel....all could beat each other. M-ville has more potential than their record so far. Just too inconsistent on whether they show up to play or not.

lets give Neumann a "you are the best team in DII" trophy and then let everyone else compete for the championship.

There are a lot of decent teams around the same level of skill, it makes the events all really exciting to watch and play in.

alawrence
11-20-2007, 08:33 PM
Ship, Slippery Rock, Maine, Temple, Vermont, Albany, Millersville, Drexel....all could beat each other. M-ville has more potential than their record so far. Just too inconsistent on whether they show up to play or not.

I wouldn't leave Binghamton off this list and Cornell I don't think is as far away as some people think. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of these teams surprised West Chester and Neumann. Remember at this point of the year last year Stony Brook would have been in this list - probably near the bottom of it - and we all know how that turned out. Not to mention hofstra a few years ago wining ECRHA DII.

Neumann and West Chester look great but its a bit early in the season to be handing out the trophys.

MAmato
11-20-2007, 11:49 PM
I wouldn't leave Binghamton off this list and Cornell I don't think is as far away as some people think. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of these teams surprised West Chester and Neumann. Remember at this point of the year last year Stony Brook would have been in this list - probably near the bottom of it - and we all know how that turned out. Not to mention hofstra a few years ago wining ECRHA DII.

Neumann and West Chester look great but its a bit early in the season to be handing out the trophys.We aren't on that list because although we have only lost big once this season and all our games are extremely competitive (average goal differential is 2.333; exclude the 7-0 drubbing at the hands of Shippensburg and suddenly the goal differental drops to somewhere in the 1.75 range), we really haven't been able to get over the hump. I think second semester you might see some better play and hopefully some of our weaker points (our PK, which used to be one of the best around, is operating below 25% efficiency at this point) get shored up. We don't deserve that respect right now but I still think that on any given day, teams 3-13 of the ECRHA can beat one another. Hell, we don't get caught in the penalty box against Drexel and WCU, and who knows what happens in those games?

I'm happy to be the underdog.

minveninato
11-21-2007, 01:11 AM
hey this might come as a surprise to most people and alot of people might laugh at this but if we briarcliffe have afull team and a real goalie (not me lol) our players either 1) decide they wanna stop messing up in school and 2) actaully commit to something other then partying we will surprise a lot of teams in the second half our team is all there is very deep and we will be able to compete with most teams in division 2!!!!

P.S. to all the players of shipp i apoligize for the way some of my guys acted on the rink against u guys on sunday, it might not be a big deal to some but to me it was a couple of them were out of line with how they reacted and i apoligize for that and while it is no excuse for that i think it was because they were just frustraed with only having 4 guys and extremly tired and probably pissed at me for letting some bad goals in lol

mike inveninato
briarcliffe roller hawks #43

William Bourque
11-21-2007, 01:29 AM
Mike,

There are no hard feelings on our side. Sometimes the stress of being the only four players on the rink leads people to make some decisions that they would likely regret at a later time.

Additionally, you performed very well in next considering that you wouldn't normally be in there. Hopefully you guys can get everything straightened out with your school and your team in time for the second semester and can knock of any one of the number of teams behind us in the standings, especially that pesky Cornell and their goalie with the totally illegal sized leg pads. :cool:

Leaferguy
11-21-2007, 04:42 AM
There are a lot of decent teams around the same level of skill, it makes the events all really exciting to watch and play in.
I agree with this. There are no sure outcomes in this league. It's cool to know that games won't feel like a waste due to huge differences in team skill.

Duquesne12
12-03-2007, 05:31 PM
The greatest upset of all time...
http://www.ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=62041

William Bourque
12-03-2007, 05:36 PM
The greatest upset of all time...
http://www.ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=62041

I was talking about this with Burke and Dave Glass at a tourney this past semester...I can't recall how the conversation started, but Burke and Glass were pretty much agreeing on Wilkes beating Pitt as the biggest upset ever.

Duquesne12
12-03-2007, 05:38 PM
you speak nonsense

RustyPipes27
12-03-2007, 06:44 PM
The Binghamton incident of 2003 has to be up there, but rumor has it that the outcome may have been mushroom-induced...

http://www.ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=1955

MBurke
12-03-2007, 07:24 PM
The Binghamton incident of 2003 has to be up there, but rumor has it that the outcome may have been mushroom-induced...

http://www.ecrha.net/game.php?game_id=1955

Bing had just won nationals in DII though.

Boston over Michigan State in OT in 2001 was a HUGE upset (at the time).

RustyPipes27
12-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Yes, but they were sans Crazy-hands, who was probably off teaching some more little kids the wrong way to hold a hockey stick.

Leaferguy
12-04-2007, 01:55 AM
The greatest upset in the history of life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9NkUajK2Qo

RichardGraham
12-04-2007, 03:22 AM
This is even better... ;)

Miracle On Ice, Newly Discovered Original Live Call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztlLwgSFCg&feature=related

Leaferguy
12-04-2007, 01:56 PM
Thanks, Richard :D

That was pretty damn cool.

RichardGraham
12-04-2007, 02:30 PM
Hi Justin,

I have to agree! I'm going to put it in Grab Bag. It's worth a lot more discussion!