ECRHA All-Star Voting

[William Bourque]

For the first time ever, the ECRHA will be using a NHL like fan voting system, giving every player or fan the ability to vote for their favorite player or teammates. Just making the Ballot is an honor, but not everyone can be chosen. Now that the ballots have been announced, it is time for you to make your choices to represent your teams in the All-Star game. This year there will be three All-Star games (DI, DII, B) and each one should be extremely exciting and entertaining. Voting for the All-Star game will take place from Monday, January 15, 2007 to Monday January 29, 2007. At the conclusion of the two-week voting period, the top 12 players and 3 goalies will be elected to the All-Star game. The top 4 players and goalies will be named starters for their respective squads. Any ballots that are not completely and properly filled out will be discarded at the conclusion of the voting period. Additionally, every survey responses and the IP/Computer they originate from will be monitored. Any individual that attempts to circumvent the rule of one ballot per person will result in the entire teams forfeiture from participation in the ECRHA All-Star games and skills competition.


http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51345l]

[Army Defense]

you can check the results here:
DI
http://www.surveymonkey.com/DisplaySummary.asp?SID=3139421&U=313942189373
DII
http://www.surveymonkey.com/DisplaySummary.asp?SID=3139459&U=313945954995
B
http://www.surveymonkey.com/DisplaySummary.asp?SID=3139521&U=313952175193

[DShapiro]

EDIT: Voting isn't just down for me, it's down for everyone currently.

[MBurke]

repost from the ECRHA area:
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Ballots closed.

I guess all the warnings weren't enough. It was fun while it lasted

We'll come out with plan B for all-star voting tomorrow.

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For those out of the loop, people kept resetting their cookies and voting repeatedly and unfortunately the service we used doesn't have a better way to combat repeat votes.

[Hockey_Freak]

"For those out of the loop, people kept resetting their cookies and voting repeatedly and unfortunately the service we used doesn't have a better way to combat repeat votes."

:mad: It's a shame it came to that, why cheat? Unfortunately this type of thing happens all the time. An honest vote would make for a better game and give the deserving players a chance to prove they belong there!!:mad:

[dbord30]

So whats the deal, and how is it going to work down, are we still going to do all-star games?

[GoRangrHky]

The games are definitely happening. It's now just a matter of how the all-stars are selected. It's probably just going to go back to the way it used to be- 1 vote per team.

[dbord30]

oh alright, well when is it going to be official

[William Bourque]

oh alright, well when is it going to be official

Most of us have jobs and classes to attend to first...

when we say tommorrow, or any date for that matter, that usually means somewhere in the 9p-12am time frame...

im sure we will come up with something, we just need to actually have some time to do it...


well, im off to Mechanical Analysis of Sports Skills...should be fun

[Leaferguy]

well, im off to Mechanical Analysis of Sports Skills...should be fun
I'm in Chem E lab. It's not fun.

[DGlass]

I'm convincing people to eat McDonald's.

[Army Defense]

"For those out of the loop, people kept resetting their cookies and voting repeatedly and unfortunately the service we used doesn't have a better way to combat repeat votes."

:mad: It's a shame it came to that, why cheat? Unfortunately this type of thing happens all the time. An honest vote would make for a better game and give the deserving players a chance to prove they belong there!!:mad:

i completely agree, i'm curious to know who was doing it tho.. my network scan from our professionals showed no indication of it coming from the west point network.. perhaps it was rebecca?

[RustyPipes27]

Are you kidding me?

[MBurke]

I've got the IPs. I'm entirely certain of where they came from, unless someone really wanted to take the time to spoof their IP.

It's a moot point now - I'm still working on the ballot because unfortunately no one has a great foolproof system out that handles balloting the way we need it to prevent people from cheating.

[RustyPipes27]

Sack races, Burke. Sack races. That will decide who the true all-stars are.

[Alex Kozik]

I've got the IPs. I'm entirely certain of where they came from, unless someone really wanted to take the time to spoof their IP.

It's a moot point now - I'm still working on the ballot because unfortunately no one has a great foolproof system out that handles balloting the way we need it to prevent people from cheating.

what if we set up polls and have people physically come and cast their votes. Of course we would have everyone register first to be eligible to vote. We could track everyone by their SSN and such.......

I am surprised no one has ever thought of this before. I am smart.

[MBurke]

Not bad - but I was thinking about making a Bill Bourque pinata - you can figure out the rules.

[Leaferguy]

He is a magical pinata. If you let him down, he will grant your wishes.

[dlo6215]

so has there been a decision on whether the balloting will be fixed somehow or if the rosters will be determined a different way?

[Alex Kozik]

so has there been a decision on whether the balloting will be fixed somehow or if the rosters will be determined a different way?

yeah I would like to know that too, so I can notify my fanclub at http://www.voteforkozik.com/ ;)

[Leaferguy]

I'm down for playing.

[William Bourque]

so has there been a decision on whether the balloting will be fixed somehow or if the rosters will be determined a different way?

Still trying to determine the best possible solution

[RUsigs11]

If we're doing the game as a means to promote the league, then I think we should attempt to do a vote similar to the one that was just taken down. We all know that many people individually voted hundreds of times in the NHL All Star balloting, and that drew some attention to the league. If a team wants to sit around on the computer all day and vote for the same players, all power to them. The only problem we would encounter would obviously be the cost of hosting such a vote... no solution for you there..

If we're doing it to reward the most deserving players, allow the players only to vote, since they really know who the most deserving players are. Maybe some type of system could be incorporated through power play stats where each player could login and vote for the all stars in their division one time. I guess this would be similar to the way national rankings were voted on in the past, as team reps would log in once per week and rank their top 25 teams. By doing it this way, we can keep track of how many times a player votes, and who exactly is voting. Allow a max # of votes per roster (so that teams don't add "fake" players in an attempt to increase the votes for their teammates). Cap it at ~16 or so.

Just some ideas...

If we can't find a solution, I see nothing wrong with doing the vote the way we have in the past ...each team rep has one ballot and that team rep is not allowed to vote players from their own team.

[dlo6215]

If we're doing the game as a means to promote the league, then I think we should attempt to do a vote similar to the one that was just taken down. We all know that many people individually voted hundreds of times in the NHL All Star balloting, and that drew some attention to the league. If a team wants to sit around on the computer all day and vote for the same players, all power to them. The only problem we would encounter would obviously be the cost of hosting such a vote... no solution for you there..

If we're doing it to reward the most deserving players, allow the players only to vote, since they really know who the most deserving players are. Maybe some type of system could be incorporated through power play stats where each player could login and vote for the all stars in their division one time. I guess this would be similar to the way national rankings were voted on in the past, as team reps would log in once per week and rank their top 25 teams. By doing it this way, we can keep track of how many times a player votes, and who exactly is voting. Allow a max # of votes per roster (so that teams don't add "fake" players in an attempt to increase the votes for their teammates). Cap it at ~16 or so.

Just some ideas...

If we can't find a solution, I see nothing wrong with doing the vote the way we have in the past ...each team rep has one ballot and that team rep is not allowed to vote players from their own team.

nice job with these. if i could put some of my own input in, if we are trying to promote the league then maybe the 1 vote per person may be a good thing b/c that would force players that wanted votes to go outside of their team to try and obtain them and in doing so hopefully raise awareness. for rewarding the most deserving players maybe the league should just decide.

a few questions also.
does each team get a representative?(maybe get more attendance/ excitement for the actual all-star game)
with the return of the skills competition, are only the all-stars eligible?

[missionhockey19]

due to the recent performance of RCC hockey...ive decided to pull my self out of retirement...see you all at nationals...

;)

[nottanitta]

I know this is late but I haven't checked up on whats going on over the break, but I for one do not agree with just stats being used for the all-star balloting. This is not fair especially to goaltenders that have a rotating system. One goalie could get the top of the hill teams while another getting games against bottom barrel teams which would make numbers look better... All I'm saying is numbers are deceiving. I'm not even sure if that is a major reason for the ballot selection, I could be wrong, but if it is I think there could be a better way to make selections. I don't want to stir anything up, just an opinion.

[MAmato]

I know this is late but I haven't checked up on whats going on over the break, but I for one do not agree with just stats being used for the all-star balloting. This is not fair especially to goaltenders that have a rotating system. One goalie could get the top of the hill teams while another getting games against bottom barrel teams which would make numbers look better... All I'm saying is numbers are deceiving. I'm not even sure if that is a major reason for the ballot selection, I could be wrong, but if it is I think there could be a better way to make selections. I don't want to stir anything up, just an opinion.Killian wasn't made an all star last year for his stats and I sure as hell wasn't made an alternate for my stats last year, either. Killian was voted in because he was the only thing keeping his team in games 99% of the time, and despite his stats, I'm pretty confident that he was a better goalie than everyone in ECRHA DII save for maybe two people, so clearly the system got it right. One of the guys on this year's ballot is one of two goalies that platoon... both goalies boast pretty great stats. Is that indicative of two sick goalies? Probably. Is is also indicative of a very good team? Sure. I'm not sure how any system can get around the fact that sick goalies on weak teams have poor stats versus good goalies on good teams have great stats, and I think that whomever makes the ballots tends to take that into account. I guess the true test is: if you could have any goalie in the league on your team, who would it be? I know that my top 10 would have very little to do with stats.

(full disclosure: I'm on the ballot this year with pedestrian stats, and I think there were a bunch of other candidates that should be in front of me. I guess someone thought I deserved to be there, so thank you for the vote of confidence.)

[nottanitta]

when I say that Im not saying it for the goalies who see a lot of shots. Im saying it for the better teams who can have a goalie play the bottom barrell teams and get 10 shots and a shutout. Then the other goalie on that team can play someone like neumann get a bunch of shots and let up 4 or 5 goals which can still be a good game, but their stats won't be as good because they are seeing more and better quality shots.

[William Bourque]

when I say that Im not saying it for the goalies who see a lot of shots. Im saying it for the better teams who can have a goalie play the bottom barrell teams and get 10 shots and a shutout. Then the other goalie on that team can play someone like neumann get a bunch of shots and let up 4 or 5 goals which can still be a good game, but their stats won't be as good because they are seeing more and better quality shots.

are you thinking of anyone specifically?

[dlo6215]

this doesn't just apply to goaltenders either. not everything skaters do on the rink can be measured in G,A,Pts, etc.

any update from the league/a league rep on the method being used to select the all-stars?

[Leaferguy]

when I say that Im not saying it for the goalies who see a lot of shots. Im saying it for the better teams who can have a goalie play the bottom barrell teams and get 10 shots and a shutout. Then the other goalie on that team can play someone like neumann get a bunch of shots and let up 4 or 5 goals which can still be a good game, but their stats won't be as good because they are seeing more and better quality shots.


are you thinking of anyone specifically?
Not gonna lie; that sounds pretty deliberate. Just say who you mean?

[Patn Lawton]

Are you talking about me?

[William Bourque]

this doesn't just apply to goaltenders either. not everything skaters do on the rink can be measured in G,A,Pts, etc.

any update from the league/a league rep on the method being used to select the all-stars?

The way it worked is as follows:

Every team would have atleast two people on the all-star ballot and could have anywhere from 2-5 per team...The way the list was established was by knowledge of teams and statistics...Once the "Master" list was created, it was around 20-30 names of players for each team, having two teams per division. From there, after reviewing this season stats and game performance, people were struck off the list for whatever reason.

I hope that makes sense.

[dlo6215]

yes that makes sense, but was that just to get the ballots or have the rosters been decided upon?

[William Bourque]

yes that makes sense, but was that just to get the ballots or have the rosters been decided upon?

That was just to set the ballots

[RustyPipes27]

I think he's talking about Josh Willen.

[Patn Lawton]

I don't think so, one time this year Kyle wasn't in the net and I made a couple saves. He is lazy.

[nottanitta]

I would rather not names, because I do not want to stir anything up, and I hope this was done in a manner that everyone can respect, but there are teams who use multiple goalies, and the way it has worked out one of them has played the tougher competition, and I am by no means saying that everyone on the ballot isn't deserving just saying that maybe it needs a closer look at times. I was just looking at goalies but maybe even with players too.

[RustyPipes27]

Looks like someone's been drinking the Haterade...

C'mon...call them out. This message board has been boring!

[Patn Lawton]

Kyle Shrauger isn't any good. Plain and simple. All he does is buy new equipment and screw up orders for jerseys, pucks, pants, etc. He is also illiterate.

[William Bourque]

Kyle Shrauger isn't any good. Plain and simple. All he does is buy new equipment and screw up orders for jerseys, pucks, pants, etc. He is also illiterate.

Pat Lawton is NOT the best fat guy in the ECRHA

[Patn Lawton]

Pat Lawton is NOT the best fat guy in the ECRHA

oh no u di'int!

[William Bourque]

oh no u di'int!

You may have perfected the fat guy fall

but your still not going to be an All-Star :p

[MAmato]

Pat Lawton is NOT the best fat guy in the ECRHA
I'm all over this award

[Leaferguy]

I get the "Most Likely to Be Mistaken for a Lollypop" award.

[Army Defense]

so 9:00 has come and passed, what is the plan with voting?

[William Bourque]

I get the "Most Likely to Be Mistaken for a Lollypop" award.

I win!

:)

[William Bourque]

so 9:00 has come and passed, what is the plan with voting?

http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51368

[dlo6215]

http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51368

from the article: "Although the individual fan voting system we first installed didn?t work the way we had planned, it didn?t deter us from our goal of letting the players chose who they want to represent themselves in the All-Star Games."

Improper spelling/grammar aside, (see chose) does this mean only players can vote?

[MBurke]

so 9:00 has come and passed, what is the plan with voting?

Of all people to post within 5 minutes of the deadline as if we missed it by a day, this is really ironic.

Give us a few minutes to make the necessary changes to the site so that we can make sure no one's on making illegal votes all night.

[Leaferguy]

Should we hold off on voting then?

[MBurke]

Not once the method is up. Then vote away!

[Army Defense]

Of all people to post within 5 minutes of the deadline as if we missed it by a day, this is really ironic.

Give us a few minutes to make the necessary changes to the site so that we can make sure no one's on making illegal votes all night.

not sure what you mean by that, cauz when a deadline is set, i get my stuff done before it passes, but whatever.. is there a way to track the results with this system?

[MBurke]

What I meant had nothing to do with the deadline - you guys always are fine with keeping up with deadlines.

There is no way to track results as you go with this system.

[William Bourque]

not sure what you mean by that, cauz when a deadline is set, i get my stuff done before it passes, but whatever.. is there a way to track the results with this system?


9:06 is the same as 9:00

It takes a few minutes to post things, and since we didnt know if the other option was going to work until the deadline, thats why it wasn't posted exactly at 9:00...

[Army Defense]

9:06 is the same as 9:00

It takes a few minutes to post things, and since we didnt know if the other option was going to work until the deadline, thats why it wasn't posted exactly at 9:00...


i know.. im just busting balls. I'm used to everything happening right on the dot here and so I posted my comment seconds before the article was up.

[Patn Lawton]

I think allstar weekend should have a one on one me vs. bourque game. the end.

[William Bourque]

I think allstar weekend should have a one on one me vs. bourque game. the end.

Do I have to play if i already know im going to win?







PLEASE BE AWARE!!

IF YOU SEND TWO BALLOTS YOU WILL LOSE YOUR VOTE

ADDITIONALLY, WE KNOW WHERE EVERY VOTE IS COMING FROM AND WHO IS MAKING THEM! IF YOU VOTE TWICE AND YOUR ON THE BALLOT, YOU WILL LOSE YOUR CHANCE TO PLAY IN THE GAME!!!!

PLEASE DON'T ATTEMPT TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM AND VOTE FROM EVERY COMP IN YOUR DORM. IT IS OBVIOUS WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO DO THIS AND THE VOTES WILL JUST BE DELETED

KEEP THIS HONEST AND FAIR

WE ARE ALL GROWN ADULTS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS

ACT LIKE IT!

[Hockey_Freak]

"WE ARE ALL GROWN ADULTS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS"

LMAO...an oxymoron if there ever was one !!! :D

[dlo6215]

i don't get it. so if I asked my friends in my dorm to vote for me, since they all came from the same place they would not be counted even though they are different people and email addresses?

[William Bourque]

i don't get it. so if I asked my friends in my dorm to vote for me, since they all came from the same place they would not be counted even though they are different people and email addresses?

No they would be counted....

It's when i have ballots from the same school...

Exact Same List

Same Spelling/Copy Mistakes...

Thats when they wont be counted

[Army Defense]

I think allstar weekend should have a one on one me vs. bourque game. the end.
only if you both put on goalie pads and do goalie break-aways like Colorado and Missouri did in Key West.

[Alex Kozik]

so the fans are still alowed to vote?

[William Bourque]

I have to say...the response and participation is highly impressive...

In a little over 24 hours...we have received over 500 seperate ballots for all of the divisions...

It's also nice of you to give us all of your girlfriends email addy's...

maybe we can get burke a date...

[dlo6215]

when is voting open until?

[Alex Kozik]

so the fans are still alowed to vote?

Anyways, so is the fan voting limited to just girlfriends or not? Just want to double make sure.

[William Bourque]

Anyways, so is the fan voting limited to just girlfriends or not? Just want to double make sure.

There is no limit on who can vote...

The only voting issue is when the same person is voting constantly...

Even though atleast 15 people have done it, its hard to get around as gmail automatially tells me your registered name when your e-mail arrives...


It's sad that people would take the effort to cheat, but to each his own...

[RUsigs11]

Hey Bill.
Is there going to be any updates on the voting? When does the voting close?

[William Bourque]

Hey Bill.
Is there going to be any updates on the voting? When does the voting close?


Voting Was Suppose to Close on Monday...

However, Depending on How Full My INbox is, it may close on friday night at 8 PM...

It will take 1-2 weekdays to count all the votes. HELLO SKIING :D

I currently have started to count the B Division.


After Almost 150 Ballots, only 88 have been legal ballots.

Legal Meaning...

Correct Subject Heading
12 Players and 3 goalies for each team
People thinking they can send the same e-mail 15 times in 7 minutes without thinking i would notice...(from the same e-mail)




Anyways, back to counting/class

[William Bourque]

Hey Bill.
Is there going to be any updates on the voting? When does the voting close?


http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51371


I had to set the deadline because i would like to have the votes counted before tuesday is over, and thats the only way i can put a dent in them...

I'll be in the mountains in a house without internet and no other way to vote all weekend. Everyone else will be on the road working events.

I hope you understand why we need to set this deadline.

If all works out, ill be able to release atleast the B Division on Sun Night...

[someaction]

How about a schedule for Feasterville? The event is 9 days away and there are over 35 teams coming.

Still waiting...

[William Bourque]

How about a schedule for Feasterville? The event is 9 days away and there are over 35 teams coming.

Still waiting...


It will def be out before Feb 5th...thats all i know right now

[bakerg81]

This reply is not only in response to this thread, but to basically every other thread on this entire message board. If you want schedules to come out early, or if you want all star voting updates, or stats updated, or the nationals location, then why don't you take some time out of your day and volunteer and work for the league.

It's one thing to sit here and discuss where you think nationals will be or what not, but does everyone really believe that Billy Bourque's only important thing in life is to get out a schedule for Feasterville or make up a new all star ballot. For the love of God, you know what teams are going to be there and who you haven't played yet, figure things out on your own.

In addition, all this talk of approval for trips and what not: At the beginning of the season, why don't you just submit travel requests for every event. Fill out the necessary online forms or paperwork or whatever and then wait and see which ones you're going to. If you end up not being at an event, then just cancel the trip with the school.

It honestly drives me insane when I come on here hoping to read interesting posts and what not and only see people whining and complaining about volunteers aren't doing their jobs fast enough.

[missionhockey19]

he lives in PA...

what else do you expect to do all day besides eat some cheesesteaks....haha

:D

just messing, i couldnt agree with you more...you people crack me up...you complain about not knowing the schedule...you have no idea how much time/patience it takes to create a schedule let alone all the other responsibilites...if you think it can be done better...step up and volunteer...period

[someaction]

Asking for a schedule 9 days in advance isn't exactly being demanding. Other regions have schedules out weeks or months in advance.

I never called out Bourque. I don't even think he has anything to do with making the schedule. But FYI, Bourque wants to know about the Nationals location just as bad as everyone else (see other threads).

And whether or not I can figure out what teams are playing who, maybe its people like me who are outsiders and fans who want to watch games (see neuman vs. towson thread), but have no clue when they are until the last minute.

[Drexel63]

In addition, all this talk of approval for trips and what not: At the beginning of the season, why don't you just submit travel requests for every event. Fill out the necessary online forms or paperwork or whatever and then wait and see which ones you're going to. If you end up not being at an event, then just cancel the trip with the school.

Great plan... Except for requesting funding for trips requires specifics, such as dates, locations, attendees, and itineraries specific to the minute in the case of bus drivers. All of which is dependant upon this announcement which, in my opinion, is overdue (Side note: The reasoning for this announcement not being made may be valid, but I still think it is overdue)

Not to mention, turning a check around through the administration of our school in particular can take upwards of two months from initial submittal to having said check in hand to mail out.

No one blames the individuals doing the work.. that's apparant by all the posts saying "I just wanted to say I appreciate all the hard work you do", but for a paying member of an organization to have complaints about the timeliness of some work is not unreasonable. Not volunteering may be due to not having time, not not caring... That doesn't mean that paying member isn't entitled to ensuring checks and balances which make the organization run smoother in the future...

I'm done babbling, you probably got my point an hour ago...

[MBurke]

Asking for a schedule 9 days in advance isn't exactly being demanding. Other regions have schedules out weeks or months in advance..

Not here to start a fight, but what good is a schedule in advance if event dates get rescheduled or you have multiple forfeits in a weekend?

That said, we try to get them out as early as possible - it's been close to 2 weeks in advance for most of the season - but as usual it's 10% of the teams causing 90% of the problems.

When you have ~ 50 teams in a region the chance of things getting royally screwed up by one team is exponentially higher than when you have 15.

[William Bourque]

It's one thing to sit here and discuss where you think nationals will be or what not, but does everyone really believe that Billy Bourque's only important thing in life is to get out a schedule for Feasterville or make up a new all star ballot.


Acutally, its a pretty well know fact that the only important things to me in life are food and hockey...seriously, my steaks last night were awesome and my Roto Chiken tommorrow is going to be outstanding...

Yea, but you know with classes in there, and skiing 2-3 times a week, my hockey time is cut down...


And Honestly, i really don't care were nationals are...it doesn't really have anything to do with me, the odds of my team going are smaller than me being named head coach of Team USA in the next World Championships...Even if we make it and found out tommorrow, it wouldnt do me any good besides the fact that i would know personally where it is...

Finally, i will leave you with this...Tonight while skiing, i saw someone get taken out by the chairlift and thrown into the booth where the conductors sit to get warm...may have been the funniest thing i've seen since the last time i saw burke attempt to play goalie

[RustyPipes27]

Burke's a better goalie than you are.

[William Bourque]

Burke's a better goalie than you are.

ok? i guess

[Leaferguy]

At the beginning of the season, why don't you just submit travel requests for every event. Fill out the necessary online forms or paperwork or whatever and then wait and see which ones you're going to. If you end up not being at an event, then just cancel the trip with the school.
I think the AD that works with our club would kill me if I did that. Beyond that, the school requires that I list where we're staying, how we're getting there, who's going, and times of arrival/departure. It's just not feasible at all.

Our school moves slow. If we are fortunate enough to make Nats, I will have to be in the offices pushing for reserve funding the next day. If I'm lucky, we'll get something. If I'm really lucky, it happens before we leave.

Regardless, we are paying to play. I understand that Mike, Bill, et. al. take a lot of **** for this. It's not easy to do what they do. I appreciate it (especially their patience). Still, concerns can be voiced. If it's done in a respectful manner, it will help the league. And if it's the teams that are screwing everything up, then the onus falls on us.

[Patn Lawton]

Burke's a better goalie than you are.

I'll believe it when i see it, jerkstore.

[KillinAintShe]

My grandma is a better goalie than burke. She is one hell of a goalie.

[bakerg81]

Just a suggestion, don't got to jump all over me. At PSU, we submit all of our forms online and then the school processes them as need be. It works for us, so I was just throwing it out there as an idea.

[RustyPipes27]

The skills competition should just be Burke, Phil Bourque (in net), and that guy's grandma. That would be more entertaining. Until someone breaks a hip...

[RustyPipes27]

Oops...I meant Bill Bourque, not Phil Bourque.

[Drexel63]

3-1 odds Bourque is the first to break that hip

[William Bourque]

3-1 odds Bourque is the first to break that hip

It's not my fault i can't skate

[Drexel63]

but it will be your fault if you don't trip up the grandma...

[William Bourque]

if im playing goal...i think the grandma would deke me out...

however, i say we throw grandma in net...

and me vs pat

kinda like a halftime show, but more of a comedy skit

[Leaferguy]

So... who won?





;) :D

[William Bourque]

So... who won?





;) :D


Division II All-Stars Are Counted, and will be released soon (i wont give you a time or date because its less hassel that way)...
B Division has around 100 more ballots to be counted...
Division I had roughly 250 ballots to be counted...

[Leaferguy]

I was just joking :D We'll know before the All-Star Event, and that's all that matters.

[William Bourque]

I was just joking :D We'll know before the All-Star Event, and that's all that matters.

Justin, your like the boy who called wolf...i dont listen to anything you say anyways :)

[Drexel63]

Justin, your like the boy who called wolf...i dont listen to anything you say anyways :)

Sounds familiar... Bourque are you sure you've never played for DU?

[Leaferguy]

Sounds familiar... Bourque are you sure you've never played for DU?
No, if he played for DU, he would've just said, "I hate you." That's my real nickname.

[DUHockey9]

We do say "I hate you" quite a bit...

[William Bourque]

Sounds familiar... Bourque are you sure you've never played for DU?


Positive...but i did however play with justin back in the day...

[SPORTSPLEXJEFF]

For those of you who do not know. In the middle of the block schedule all star weekend the Feasterville Fury will be playing the Richmond Robins minors at 1pm and the Richmond Robins Pros at 2pm. All games are free admission! See you guys there and good luck to all teams playing this weekend.

[William Bourque]

http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51392

DII Released

DI and B coming at some point today

[Hockey_Freak]

http://www.ecrha.net/article.php?article_id=51392

DII Released

DI and B coming at some point today


Hummmm...some interesting results in DII :eek:

[dlo6215]

Are the players listed in order of votes received?

[William Bourque]

Are the players listed in order of votes received?


more or less

[missionbratt]

i would hope that the selection of the all-star teams are more of a popularity vote than the best palyers of the league. this is the second year in a row that josh stein of towson, one of the best players in the league, was over looked. he's not the only one either. there are some D2 players that were left out of the game as well. scotto from newman wasnt selected? if i'm watching an all-star game, thats what i want to watch, all-stars. i'm not saying that some are not worthy of the of the spot, but if guy's like these are left out is it truely an all-star game? NO. i want to watch the best in the league play, not someone that went to the computer lab and had a bunch of people vote them. i hope stein and the rest of the true all-stars of the league that were left out tear the rink up the rest of the season!

[Hockey_Freak]

Hmmm...I think the guys who didn't make it would beat the guys who did :confused: .

[Patn Lawton]

If people are unhappy with how the voting is conducted for the allstar game, they could come up with a proposal for how the voting should be done and bring it up at the ACC meeting in March.

I agree some very talented players did not make the game. With that being said, there is a lot of talent in the league and not everyone on the ballot can play in the game.

[someaction]

please, its 48 hours away... a schedule?

[MBurke]

please, its 48 hours away... a schedule?

When it's done. We're working on yet another rewrite (#8 i think?).

[Leaferguy]

I know the schedule was probably put up about 20 seconds ago, but just FYI, our DII team's exhibition game against Stony Brook B is labeled as a regular season game.

[TempleGoalie]

I know the schedule was just put up, I was looking at temple's last game and its againts West Chester B at 4:15PM, and I noticed Drexel Bhas a game against Millersville. Wouldnt it make more logical sense to let Temple play millersville and count that as an exhibition game rather than both teams play B teams??

Thanks,
Brandon

[DUHockey9]

I think it's beneficial for the B teams to take on DII teams. It may not always be ideal for the DII team, but whatever.

[Leaferguy]

Yeah, I'm relatively sure our B team and our coaches would like them to take on Millersville.

Our DII team is playing Stony Brook B, if that helps any.

[tadams97]

I know the schedule was just put up, I was looking at temple's last game and its againts West Chester B at 4:15PM, and I noticed Drexel Bhas a game against Millersville. Wouldnt it make more logical sense to let Temple play millersville and count that as an exhibition game rather than both teams play B teams??

Thanks,
Brandon


Teams only play 16 regular season games this year. And MU has played Temple twice already. It would make more sense if it was not an exhibition game, I'd love to have the 'best of 3' game against you :)

[TempleGoalie]

haha... yea that would be nice! gotta get Lerch back... never had that pulled on me in a game before thats for sure..:)

-Brandon
-#31 Temple
-#33 Gladiators

[rollerhcky09]

it was the first time i ever scored on it in an ecrha game. i agree, a third game would be fun, and create a little rivalry.

Lerch #9
Millersville