View Full Version : Fighting in hockey good or bad
11-13-2006, 12:53 PM
I just got finished reading the game that happened this past weekend in MLRH. I can't help but think why anyone would feel that fighting that much is a good thing. None of us are getting paid even if you play in PIHA or MLRH. I played MLRH when I was with the Warriors and yes tempers flair up cause its fast paced and hitting but I recall the fighting only being one on one not team vs. team. Is that much fighting good for the league? I know if I paid money to see hockey then thats what I want to see hockey. It was said that everyone was kicked out of the game but 2 goalies and 4 skaters 2 on each side. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to see a game like that let alone bring a family to something like that.
I think fighting is ok but to a certain extent. Let the 2 guys face off and go at it then once its done its done let it go. But to have 2 teams kicked out is uncalled for in my opinion. I like the idea of MLRH but people need to controll there emotions out there. It is check hockey so learn how to take a hit and give a hit cleanly.
Well just my 2 cents. Would anyone else want to see a game that fights that much?
#35 Garrett B.
11-13-2006, 01:13 PM
It depends on what level of hockey we are talking about... i played junior ice hockey for 4 years (before the new fighting rules) and there was a lot of real fighting (2 guys squaring off and fighting) that is what hockey fighting should be... i then played MLRH/XIHL for 5 seasons and saw a bunch of jumpings, muggings, 3rd man in's, etc with no proper penalties or suspensions... and most of these things were done by teams who were losing and frustrated... a player would get jumped and then they would both just get 5 minutes... it's hystercial if you ask me, and it's how people get hurt and reasons that people don't want to play MLRH anymore ... that MLRH article is brutal, it makes fun of the VA wings and it showcases fighting... 2 guys left on each team... sounds like a thriller...
11-13-2006, 01:58 PM
yeah I am talking about the MLRH level of hockey and you are right players were getting mugged and jumped and it just isn't true fighting. If your going to allow fighting in any league then you need to call 3rd man in penaltys. Also if you are going to fight don't be cheap square off and go at it like a man toe to toe. As a ref you should know how to controll the situation. Although I don't blam the refs cause I know if I were out there I'd be thinking I don't get paid enough to deal with this and not care untill its all taken care of so I don't get put in any danger. I hope that people realize that it is just a game and we all have to work the following week.
But then again I wasn't at the game I don't know what happened or why it started but I don't think in any game it should get that much outta hand.
11-13-2006, 02:20 PM
Fighting definately belongs in hockey, NHL, AHL, IHL, etc. But not in inline hockey, MLRH seems like alot of fun for guys who don't play the game very well. Sounds like fun, but like Garret said, one on one is a fight, not 2 on 1. I just hope that MLRH never gets confused with PIHA.
11-13-2006, 02:40 PM
I look at it this way... PIHA is the best thing going right now... how many fights do you see in that? The only fights we ever have on our team is complaining to flynn about who's taking too long of shifts. :D
but seriously, look at Narch Pro, Torhs Pro, PIHA.... all are 10 times better then MLRH competition and can anyone remember a fight in any of these? maybe 1 or 2 over the past 8 years... in mlrh there are 1 to 2 muggins a game...
think about it...
but seriously, look at Narch Pro, Torhs Pro, PIHA.... all are 10 times better then MLRH competition and can anyone remember a fight in any of these?
Keep fighting on the ice and out of roller hockey.
11-13-2006, 09:01 PM
well don't get me wrong a good fight is some fun for both if the other person agress to it, but it seems that there is little purpose in this league for fighting, there are not that many fans that come to the games, there is no money involved, it would just seem foolish to have it placed in PIHA... i could be wrong tho
11-13-2006, 10:54 PM
Yeah there really isn't a point to fight in this league. It's not going to prove anything anyway...games aren't going to be decided one way or another because of a fight, it will only create more chippiness leading to more whistles and more powerplays and less of the excitement of non-stop even strength hockey that the PIHA is known for...the extremely talented players that this league has is what will put fans in seats.
11-13-2006, 10:54 PM
I've played various levels of ice hockey, MLRH, and PIHA. As others have said, fighting has it's place. Unfortunately, I don't think fighting has ever had a place in the 'pro' roller hockey leagues because there is virtually nothing to keep your local goon from playing one game for a team and steamrolling some guy's knees, going home, beating his wife and getting in more trouble for the latter.
In leagues where fighting is acceptable, sanctions are poor and referee judgement is the same.
... and that article is a joke. Whomever wrote it should stick to his day job, unless he's a journalist. Then he should just go bag groceries or something.
"witness protection program" ....... LOLROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
11-14-2006, 02:16 AM
with all respect to anybody/everybody, and all the opinions expressed...
Fighting in any sport, including inline hockey and including ice hockey, is stupid and irrelevant.
You may profer any psychological or tactical "justification" all you want, and your logic will not make it out of an eight year old's so-what-notebook.
Now that hockey people like Ken Dryden and Wayne Gretzky are moving into the NHL board of governours, fighting will gradually go away from sports in general, and our sport in particular...at all levels.
11-14-2006, 08:21 AM
Since we are gearing this league toward our younger generation, there is no place for fighting...plain and simple. Most of us, unfortunately, have work the next day as well.
11-16-2006, 08:40 PM
hey my name's tim phillips, i play for the wings. and i dont know what you caught out of the "mlrh article" but the fighting didnt go down to 2 on 2. the penalties that came from the one fight came down to two on two on the rink. i was one of the two left out there at the time. there was only one fight this past weekend, and wasnt even a fight the guy had a cage on and was just swinging wildly at our guy. what would you do? and i've been in a game where 4 fights were the most, and that was last season in the playoffs between the wings and the outlawz. everyone thinks mlrh is a huge brute rediculous battle and in fact half the teams just like to play regular fast paced hockey, just people like myself who arent as talented at stick handling and making moves use the body more to keep that kind of stuff from going on. i cant vouch for everyone but i'm not out there looking to hurt anyone with their head down, just give the crowd a reason to spend 5 bucks on a saturday night. and i love the sound they make when i put someone on their back, hell even when i get put on my back. it's great. so dont bash it til you try it. you might like it
11-16-2006, 08:45 PM
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Re: Fighting in hockey good or bad
MLRH seems like alot of fun for guys who don't play the game very well. I just hope that MLRH never gets confused with PIHA.
i took this out of context. and that's not a very respectable thing to say. not trying to sound like a whiner or anything but there are people in both leagues who could be anywhere else but are dedicating their time to the sport of inline hockey. and i dont see why PIHA and MLRH are made such a big deal. we're in the same genre, there's no room for slander
11-17-2006, 11:19 AM
defintely not the same genre... the whole "don't knock it till you try it" thing is a bit outdated as basically all of us on this board played MLRH at one point or another... and the joke is exactly as you said... "it was a player with a cage swinging away" the fact is that the guys dont know how to actually fight... that's what the arguement is... so we all play PIHA. it's why teams leave year after year to come play PIHA
11-17-2006, 07:50 PM
ok i guess the whole talk at the meeting before this PIHA season with you guys was bs? about the better of inline hockey in it's entirety. that's why PIHA TORHS MLRH they're all good for something, keeping kids playing inline instead of having to play ice cause there's nothing else. all i care about is hockey, and i see no point in the turf wars you guys are all into. "It's why teams leave year after year to come play PIHA." it's rediculous. if you care so much about the game why try to beat out other organizations trying to help the same cause? besides i dont sit here and call PIHA players pansies cause they dont hit. i respect the speed and finesse aspect that PIHA brings, it's what the NHL's after right now, it's a great thing to watch. i just dont see why the same respect cant be granted to people in MLRH who just like to have fun playing more physical. and it's not all about fighting, i'm sure you've played more games than i have w/o a single fight breaking out.
11-18-2006, 10:10 PM
Okay J., you got me on the quote, it was more the fact that 99% of guys don't know how to fight, not meaning they don't know how to punch, but there are hidden rules to fighting. Don't take a guy at the end of his shift, don't take a guy if he's not willing, don't hit a guy when he is down. I played MLRH, I've watched it, and I've seen all the above in MLRH. I am not not 100% PIHA, although I think Charley is heading in the right direction, I want to see the MLRH survive and help grow the sport, but when a parent can take a kid to a game, and witness a poor act on the court, he could pull them from the sport. My parents did it to me in ice hockey when I was a kid. Do I blame them, not now, because I realize that back then, kids could not take a hit and just understand that it was a hockey play, not a personal act.
I know there is hockey talent in MLRH, but I think they are mixing it with lower talent due to some fighters. PIHA on the other hand, does not get the fighters, and so they get the higher talent. Overall PIHA has better skill, and I think that is why team left the MLRH. I don't believe they left because the did not like the hitting or they are pansies, they just moved for better hockey.
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