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06-21-2006, 01:45 AM
Now that I know that Bauer/Nike is still in the inline business (see previous post), does anyone know anything about this new "OneUp" chassis configuration? Is there anything to it, or is it just a gimmick to get around patents on the Hi-Lo design?
06-21-2006, 01:39 PM
On the "one-up" they tossed a 78mm or 76mm wheel on the back, but tell you that you can toss an 80mm on there with no problems..which is true. I'm not sure why they made it. It seems like someone claimed the rights the the patent on the HI-Lo setup or something because this was the same time that Tour went to all 80mm, CCM did the 72-72-80-76, Nike/Bauer did the one-up,etc. Mission stayed the same though....maybe they claimed rights to the 72-72-80-80...I don't know... BUT that's the one-up. Nike skates are garbage in my opinion though. I have the Hi-Ho Silvers. Nike's former "top-of-the-line" skate. I've had them "maybe" a year and a half and all the eyelets have rusted/fallen out and the boot is tearing apart. I loved the skate until that happened.... The "One-Up" is a solid frame, though.
06-21-2006, 07:48 PM
I got a pair of HiHo Silvers about a month ago. So far they feel great. I am not a big fan of the One-Up chassis. Try finding a 78mm wheel...Good luck! But an 80mm will work fine. Also the axles on the One-Up are a little wider that your standard axle. I am having a hard time finding spacers for my indoor wheels. This is my biggest beef with the One-Up chassis.
Yes the patent covered basically two issues: the use of parellel planes for the position of multiple axle centers(in most cases two axle centers/plane as with the standard "Hi-Lo", but the patent even applies to chassis where every axle center would be in a different plane...e.g. a chassis like the Sensor, which used 3 planes instead of two was also covered), and second having all the wheels still in contact with the floor, when using multiple planes for the axle centers, described as having the contact point of the wheels resting on a single plane. On a funnier note...before Mission owned the rights to this patent, I heard they built all their skate chassis' with the front wheel center a little higher than the others, so that the front wheel was about .020" (twenty thousandths of an inch) above the floor...so if anyone ever challenged them.....I have seen serious debates as to the benefits of this "rockering" that Mission used to use....rofl.
Hence all the nonsense that ensued, with 20 different marketing explanations for the changes.
By selling skates where one wheel did not touch the floor, so as to not have it's contact point in the same plane as the other wheels, this style of chassis did not technically breach the patent...If a user decided to switch wheels sizes, and make the chassis back into a "hi-lo", then the manufacturers could not be held "responsible"....Some even went so far as to put the larger wheel in the box with the skates...lol.
06-26-2006, 03:46 AM
Mission Has the pattern on the "hi-lo" setup. I have the Nike hi-ho and I use a 80mm on the rear instead of the 78mm. The set up is th avoid lawsuit from mission. The skates are great arent they? Real comfortable
06-27-2006, 06:11 PM
How does a chassis like the Tri-Di get around that patent? From what I know about it, it uses an 80-76-76-72 setup and all wheels contact the ground using a 3 plane model. Did they buy the rights to use it from Mission or is there some small tweak that they are using to get around it?
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