Sprung A6 frames are sick!

[Lanceohockey]

How do you like the Sprung frames so far?

www.SprungHockey.com

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Lanceohockey on 04/11/06 11:21 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

[born2runPROgm]

where can you order them? they look awfully similar to the smart hockey tuuk chassis from a few years ago... if they got the patent I must be wrong...

"The defenseman formerly known as #11"

[RichardGraham]

Hi Ben,

I know that Joe Noris is involved with the designer of Sprung frames, so that adds instant credibility, if you ask me. I'll ask them to send me some updated information on the frame, and get it on IHC as soon as I can.

Sincerely,

Richard Graham
Editor
Inline Hockey Central

[iceburg19]

i had a chance to try the sprung frames on a ccm skate in detroit at the aau nats in july,i thought these frames were unreal,being a ice hockey player and inline player,these frames help make the ice to inline transition alot easier,these frames are for real and could help anyones skateing get better just by the way the frames independent suspension is set up. the turning is much tighter,the rebound was unreal,a very smooth ride,it was like skateing on new cut ice. the transition going from foward to backward was so much smoother,if you have a chance to demo these frames some time check it out.

[kovalchuk71]

All your answers in this thread from the man himself:

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?showtopic=23334

[kovalchuk71]

I have a pair being mounted on my synergys as we speak. Ill let you all know what I think of them.

[Sprungster]

Yo Kovalchuk and Iceburg,

It's great to hear from you guys!!

And it's ditto to join the group here.

In addition to Sprungster, I'm known as Keith Longino, and I invented and designed the Sprung Voodootech A6 roller hockey chassis mentioned above.

This thread was started by my most excellent Bud Lance, who is a veteran sprungster himself, and recently wore the frames in his successful introduction as a member of the Jr Team USA that took the Tier 2 Pro Overall First Place Prize of $10,000. Way Gold!!!

Congratulations Lance!!!

If anybody has any questions about the frames: past, present and future, please feel free to ask away. I'll try to be partial, but since these frames are the biggest jump in roller hockey since it went from quads to inlines, it'll be a bit tough.

As Iceburg says, they are the missing link between ice and roller.

Once again, it's great to get on Richard's great forum site.

[iceburg19]

kovalchuk71,sounds excellent- im putting the frames on a pair of '03'easton z air comps,i have a set of t- screws from my grafs to mount,i'll go with 76mm rink rat hot shots,and abec 7s for now.what color frame do you have?

[kovalchuk71]

I got a black colored body with red "arms" (the things the wheels go on). How bout you?

[SirCoach2U]

How can I purchase these? I didn't see an option on the website.

[MDE3]

It looks like basically a similar set up to the old Tuuk rocker frame, except that both pairs of wheels can pivot instead of just the middle two.

I am assuming the back rocker assembly does not rock too far back, and that there are internal stops to prevent wheels of a certain size from touching the frames, or a skater from being able to lose balance if he shifts too much weight to the rear....What are the largest wheels that can be used on these? Why is this better than the old Tuuk design..which has a built in fixed rocker angle(except when you change wheel sizes) where you are always on at least three wheels instead of what appears to be a minimum of only two wheels with this design?

Knowing how important it is to have a lot of contact patch with the rink surface for grip....I wonder about having only two wheels in contact during certain manouevers...

[Sprungster]

the big question I see here;

Is it like the TUUK (or the Vibe)?

Ans; NOT AT ALL! This works like high end racing suspension on a car or motorbike. The Tuuk only has the two center wheels that rock back and forth looking for a front or rear wheel to ballance on. You're never on all four wheels. No suspension at all. None of the stability that suspension gives you.

The Vibe had a plunger front and back. Both tended to freeze up cause things don't work that way on anything but a bike. And on a bike, nose dive is one of the worst aspects of that type of suspension. Most guys jammed the front and only used the rear.

How does it work?

Ans; My all 76 mm frame adjusts to your shifts in balance forward to rear, always keeping the max number of wheels on the court. If you're pushing off, your weight shifts to the toe, and you can skate through the toe like ice. The front wheel actually moves further than the rest for the push off. The polyurethane spring between each set of front and rear rocker arms (different meaning from rocker) allow the wheels to adjust to your movement. And the resistance is progressive. Meaning it gets stiffer as you bear into it. It doesn't bog down and loose energy. The springs store the energy and deliver it back to you when they unload. You can feel the push.

When you're turning, your weight transfers to your heels like an ice blade, and you go from four to three to two wheels, invisibly. Two wheels turn a hell of a lot tighter than four stiff ones.

I hope this makes sense! The main thing is they feel like ice and ice players feel it instantly.

Does it work?

Ans; Yes, better than you could imagine. The frames in Detroit were all the old model. The new one is way better and much more durable. All of the guys that were used to the old one, can't believe anything that good could get that much better.

Are they worth the money?

Ans; Everybody is out there skating on Model T's, and these things are Ferrarri's. Is a one piece stick worth the bucks over plywood?

[MDE3]

I am all for advances in technology which makes the game faster and easier to play so good luck with it. The difference between ice and inline has almost always been in the rapidity of the directional transition, with ice having a major advantage. As wheel and chassis techology improves, so will this difference diminish. Your development may be a major step in the right direction..Good to hear about the progressive springs which I can see as a benefit to maintain maximum contact as well as allowing maximum manouverability...(my Eibachs certainly work well on my car lol, although I am actually being serious here).... and anything that improves the ease of transition from ice to inline and vica versa will be a wonderfull boon for the sport.

As always the proof will indeed be in the pudding, and top players will certainly use these chassis if they feel it gives them an advantage.

And as to the question &quot;is a composite worth the money vs a wooden stick?&quot;...well you just might be asking the wrong guy..lolol

That question might have far more to do with marketing issues than mechanical ones...Although there is no doubt the vast majority of players would vouch that they prefer the composites to wood....the real reasons for this might have more to do with form than function...I wonder if the answer to that question should be posed to two different groups..those who pay for their own sticks and those who do not...

[iceburg19]

i didnt get mine yet,they are on there way,keith just got them out a day ago,i ordered a pair of 03 easton z-air comps from peranis hockey world reg $499.i paid $178.what a deal,i use the same ice skate.what bearings and wheels are you going with?

[kovalchuk71]

Swiss bearing and Gripper Melineums right now (got some for 2.00 a pop

[iceburg19]

all 76mm?

[Lanceohockey]

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[iceburg19]

what skate do you have them on? i have them on easton z airs my son is haveing them put on mission 9500s in the next few days ,i also have a pair of graf 705s that will probably get the set up .

[born2runPROgm]

Can you set them up in the hi-lo format (72-80's)?

"The defenseman formerly known as #11"

[iceburg19]

this frame isnt a hi -low set up,each wheel is independent,you would use one wheelsize,76mm being the biggest,check out sprunghockey.com,for more pictures of skates go to modsquadhockey.com(rollerhockey forum)new frames.

[Lanceohockey]

thx!

[DatsyukianDeke]

Little confused by the website, will the sprung frames fit my Missions size 12D or is that too big?

[iceburg19]

might need a frame in large contact keith at [email protected]

[Hoffer]

I got a pair of these frames from sprungster and they are great. If you are looking into getting a new set of frames make sure you look into a set of sprung frames.