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02-23-2005, 11:08 AM
Any chance thats gonna be updated in the near future ?
I have nothing to do with this now, but a couple of years ago, I was asked to input the game scorsheets to the league office computor program for a specific team.
I tried faithfully to get this done. The problem was that nobody was filling out usable roster sheets for the various teams on game day.
The master roster sheet submitted by teams to the league, did not necessarily reflect the numbers used by specific players on specific game day scoresheets. Referees and stats persons for a specific game, rarely had an up to date game roster with players listed by name and number as they actually appeared in the game.
Goals, penalties and assists were often just logged by a number on the scoresheet, with no name. In some cases the number logged was not even on the master list, in other cases the number was being worn by a player different from the one he was assigned on the master list.....but you could only enter the data by player number, not by name, so that meant changing the data on the scoresheet...
As you can imagine....what happened was a mess. Points and penalties were being assigned to players who were not even in attendance, and eventually the people like myself just through up our hands and said...forget it...these stats will be total fiction..leading to everyone being upset.
It's garbage in garbage out..so maybe the same thing is happening now.
02-23-2005, 11:59 AM
I no longer have any affiliation with PIHA, but I think a more accurate description is in order for the "garbage in garbage out" tag.
PIHA had roster restrictions that would confuse a tax consultant over the first couple years, which made the entering of stats difficult. While a team rep could enter data, it could do so only with the "rostered" players in the website database. If you needed to "add" a player the team had to contact the league to do so. This was an attempt at policing rosters, which I believe did not work out so well. Also, team owners or whoever ran the team, did not always have the "base" roster even in correctly or in a timely manner which was usually even a bigger problem.
Throw in the league allowed roster adjustment around the half way point and now you have the mess times 2.
So as you can see there are numerous factors that were involved here. Is that the case now...I have no idea as to I have my own personal private opinion, but to fault the website or web builder is offbase.
All the same I can understand the frustrations of ME3 as they are very valid. It just plain sucks to have a good volunteer help out and then be frustrated so much by these type issues. However the "PRO" sport has so many other worries as ME3 so often points out well, that these type issues may not be around in few years anyway.
02-23-2005, 02:03 PM
This is not the case and I assume that when you did the scoresheets you are talking about, it was for the Marple Grenades. In the four years of PIHA that was really the only bad team with keeping track of that stuff. Stio will vouche that I spent 6 hours there one night trying to fix the mess down there. I have already posted on this topic recently, but will again. The current hang up is that the rosters must be input to the league database "online" to be accessible to the owners to complete their end of the system. This has been done by Kenny Meyer every year up to this point and this year is being done by someone new. Im not exactly sure what the hang up is, as I've been trying to speed up the process myself. I can say that the league commissioner has been extremely thorough in getting accurate and complete roster and scoresheets from everyone so far.
02-23-2005, 02:08 PM
All terrific points rock. The problem is in the communication however. I'm not sure where the blame falls, probably several spots, but people were willing to step up and keep things accurate. Kenny created a very user friendly system and something as complicated as what he built was bound to have kinks, especially when our rules changed yearly or sometimes even more often. PIHA misses you buddy.
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