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Ballbearing
02-22-2005, 09:53 AM
Hello, Let me apologize in advance for the long post. Also, I searched numerous posts for this information but couldn't find it.

The reason for these questions are because I can't find any local or nearby shop that carries any decent skates, so I will probably have to order them.

I currently have a pair of 2004 size 10 EE mission D3 skates that need replacing. I either need a different size or different brand due to sizing difficulties. I tried a 10 D but it felt too narrow that's why I got the EE. The length appears to be normal as I can just barely get a finger behind my heel when my foot is pushed forward. My problem is that the sides of my feet ache for about ten minutes when I lace up and then they alternate going numb and then hurting intensely. I've tried loosening the laces but then I have no support. I've skated this way for a long time thinking that they would break in but nothing has changed.

My foot is normal to slightly wide at the forefoot area and my heel is narrow.

My athletic shoes are 10.5 D normally with my last pair of New Balance being 10.5 E. I measured out with a normal width though.

My ice skates are Bauer Supreme 2000 in 9.5 D and I have no problems with them other than that they are probably a little too long. I can get more than a finger behind the heel.

I have a normal sized arch I believe. I'm not sure how to check though.

Any suggestions or information is welcome. As you can tell I am a new player and I really don't have any brand preference.


Thanks.

MDE3
02-22-2005, 04:32 PM
Actually Bauer Supremes were somewhat notorious for being a "narrow" fit, so I do not think you are having skate width problems.

Having had similar symptoms over the years, it does sound more like an "arch" problem...Sometimes the raised portion of the arch support on the inserts is too high for one's feet, causing the skate to feel too narrow or having too sharp a radius in the arch area for some people, and thus causing "cramping" problems.

Try using a scissors to cut back the height of the arch support on the insert..this may help. One other trick if this is not enough, is to take a second insert, and cut it in half, so that the front half will go under the forward part of the original insert. When you do this, it is important to cut the rear of this "under support" to a tapered edge, so there is no big ridge under your foot where the half insert stops.

Cutting back the foam insert support area, plus adding the half insert (basically raising the front part of your foot within the skate) will usually be enough to overcome arch radius interference....which can cause these symptoms. I have had them with many skates, because I do have very flat arches.

Hope this helps....it may not be the only problem of course.

almostheroes
02-22-2005, 10:14 PM
I have the same problem and tried on a pair of Gear Varsity's the Gear skate has a wide fit. I plan on buying the Gear Big Daddy's on Hockey Giant. This was the most comfortable Skate I had on in a long time. I always thought Danny G was just joking about his Gear skates, however they are built great.

DannyG
02-23-2005, 06:12 PM
I guess I must have really fat feet...

however, try using two sets of laces...for example, I have a short lace that traverses through the lower four sets of eyelets on my skates. This lace is very loose, provides no pull on the eyelets at all. It is so loose that I keep the ends tied all the time, it's loose enough to take the skate off the foot without having to untie the ends of this lower lace.

The upper six sets of eyelets have a separate lace, which starts through eyelet set number 5 as the bottom set. These I pull as tight as need be. With two laces used like this, my toes have enough room to take a vacation, and the skate remains tight against the upper instep, heel, and ankle, which is where all the "power transfer" is supposed to come from anyway.

I think New Balance came out with a running shoe in the late seventies that eliminated lacing down to the toe. The shoe only had laces beginning halfway up the foot, encompassing that same upper instep, heel, and ankle...

Might work for you...

<font color=purple>DannyG</font color=purple>

EndGame
03-18-2005, 01:07 AM
Did you get them baked? I have a pair of D3s that killed my feet until I had them baked.

Ferecito
03-20-2005, 12:23 PM
Tour's may work better for you, and if you want to keep Missions then try the Helium series.